--- Log opened Thu Apr 06 00:00:36 2023
00:00 < Zyxer> oldlaptop: Thanks I'll check it out 
00:01 < Zyxer> My usb shows up as Ideazon, is that some OpenBSD audio or USB device handler or driver or layer or something?
00:06 < jf> ok, you *might* have a shortcut in sndiod. https://cvsweb.openbsd.org/src/usr.bin/sndiod/dsp.h
00:06 < jf> that #define ADATA_BITS 24 in dsp.h
00:07 < jf> there is some ifdef code for handling forced 16 bit mode
00:07 < jf> so if you want to try something less drastic than the kernel, try compiling a sndiod with ADATA_BITS 16
00:07 < Zyxer> I got actually more info on OpenBSD than linux, linux got error on requesting device descriptors when lsusb while OpenBSD had no issue with that. 
00:07 < Zyxer> https://clbin.com/EaMVL
00:08 < Zyxer> jf: But I need 24 bits for the audio? Only 16 is gonna make it only be mic I think
00:08 < jf> usb device descriptors are .. quirky. sometimes the devices get developed mostly on windows boxes and pass the windows drivers, but are not "correct" device desriptors.
00:09 < Zyxer> Ah, I see. 
00:09 < jf> yeah, you want 24 for output and 16 for input (according to that pastebin)
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00:09 < jf> (look for bBitResolution in the pastbin)(
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00:09 < Zyxer> Yes, I saw that
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00:11 < Zyxer> So if I compile sndiod with ADATA_BITS 16 won't it make my headset unable to play sound?
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00:13 < jf> not sure :)
00:14 < jf> where i'm "puzzled" is why the device reports 16 bit for the mic, but that info does not reach sndiod (via the uaudio device code). i .. expected it to reach sndiod
00:14 < jf> (not done any usb audio work for .. years .. so i'm very rusty)
00:14 < pardis> I suspect it will make no difference whatsoever
00:14 < Zyxer> Yea well it somehow does use 16bit when I open audio device as only rec
00:14 < pardis> I believe ADATA_BITS is only used for sndiod's internal audio processing and not the mode it opens the hardware with
00:15 < pardis> but I could be wrong
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00:15 < Zyxer> sndiod -f rsnd/1 -m rec -d -d and then I can record using microphone. Can't play any sound tho'
00:16 < jf> i keep going back to that line from a day ago ( "aucat0: 48000Hz, s24le4lsb, rec 0:1, 20 blocks of 480 frames" ) and wondering why it isn't s16
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00:17 < jf> pardis looks like used for clipping (dsp.c) curiously the DEFAULT_BITS is defined as 16, so i'm back wondering about that sndiod logline about the aucat connection. maybe i should be looking at if / why aucat is asking sndiod for 24
00:17 < Zyxer> Yea, and when I specify s16 sndiod still reports s24 
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00:18 < Zyxer> I think pardis is onto something, what we have tried has been changing bit on software level not hwo it communicates with the actual device
00:18 < pardis> this is why I suggested using the hardware audio device directly and avoiding sndiod to try to narrow down the problem
00:19 < Zyxer> Yes but I failed to open it the way you described, aucat refused (didn't find device rsnd/1) no matter how I tried to go about it
00:20 < Zyxer> Unless I was not suppose to run sndiod at the same time
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00:22 < jf> aucat wants to communicate via sndio - is how it is built
00:23 < jf> and aucat does seem to be wired to connect to sndio at 24 bits ( "par.bits = ADATA_BITS" in dev_open in aucat.c)
00:23 < jf> so that explains the 24 bit connection from aucat to sndio
00:23 < jf> but not the rest of the path
00:23 < jf> i agree with pardis, but not sure how to isolate the device given the sndio setup
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00:25 < Zyxer> I get unsupported audio params trying to record with aucat... hmmm
00:25 < Zyxer> How can I find the audio parameters? 
00:27 < jf> forcing sndiod into 16 bit with "sndiod -f rsnd/1 -e s16 -d -d" didn't work did it - can't find in scrollback. don't mind if sndiod<->aucat gets resampled to 24 but want sndiod to only ask device for 16. 
00:31 < Zyxer> Nope, aucat tries with s24le4lsb and snd is opened as s24le3
00:31 < Zyxer> Even when I specify -e s16 in aucat
00:32 < jf> it is not as simple as "audioctl -f /dev/audio1 encoding=s16" is it?
00:32 < Zyxer> I'm not really sure how I can access the audio device directly, aucat just gives unsupported params
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00:33 < jf> (or /dev/audio0 depending on what device it is)
00:33 < Zyxer> it is audio1
00:33 < Zyxer> jf: No it refuses, absolutely refuses 
00:34 < Zyxer> laptopfoo# audioctl -f /dev/audio1 encoding=s16 
00:34 < Zyxer> encoding: s24le3 -> s24le3y
00:34 < Zyxer> T-T
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00:36  * jf is kinda stuck here
00:36 < Zyxer> I think this may be worth bug reporting since the other guy (albeit in 6.4 or something) had same issue. Maybe this is bugg on USB headsets? 
00:36 < thrig> the USB stack could use more work
00:36  * jf it is a bit like a device quirk (which get built into the code under dev), but uaudio doesn't have a quirks section
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00:37 < jf> thrig yes .. sorry about that ..
00:39 < jf> if_ure.c 1.18 was me and ehci.c 1.3 was me a millenia ago. i don't know the audio side of the kernel at all.
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00:40 < Zyxer> Welp, workaround is going back to USB audio card and use wired headphones and separate mic. Assuming it works. I haven't tried it and cannot try it yet since well yea, I am not home were my soundcard exists.
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00:44 < jf> Zyxer i'm all out of suggestions at this point. including the lsusb -v output and a complete dmesg would help. looks like Klemens Nanni was the last couple of commits
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00:47 < Zyxer> jf: ok, I will add lsusb -v (specifying device, no need for the other stuff it reports) and complete dmesg. As well as what I have tried and the errors.  
00:47 < Zyxer> jf: Thanks for taking your time to help me debugg. :)
00:48 < jf> looks like nothing changed in uaudio.c between 7.2 and 7.3 either, so no happy surprises from 7.3 next week
00:49 < jf> Zyxer happy to help. i like figuring these things out when i can. sorry i couldn't get you to a working mic on your headphones
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09:48 < corigins> Is it possible to export nfs with rdomain? Setting the rcctl flag for rdomain on portmap mountd and nfsd. I'm getting these errors https://pastebin.com/raw/AVvf2PT6
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09:49 < corigins> Beside NFS, what options do I have to mount folders or a share a folder/fs in a vm?
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09:50 < sibiria> samba
09:51 < ludovicus> does ftpfs count
09:56 < corigins> Samba is a good idea, my nfs mount sometime hangs. I have not looked into ftpfs yet, would sshfs be better?
09:58 < sibiria> samba is definitely faster and swifter than sshfs, if that matters
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10:10 < renaud> can you mount smb shares in OpenBSD now?
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10:17 < sibiria> i think it has always had smbclient
10:17 < sibiria> the samba port, that is
10:17 < renaud> yes, but you cannot really mount stuff
10:18 < renaud> unless you use sharity
10:18 < renaud> but I haven't requested a new build for ages, so the latest supported version is at least 10 years old
10:19 < renaud> indeed, 5.5 is the latest
10:19 < corigins> Yeah, I was hoping to keep it base or small as possible, got it to work with pf magic. Next issue is to figure out why nfs keep hanging
10:19 < renaud> corigins: try to mountit in soft mode
10:20 < renaud> nfs doesn't like to be cut
10:21 < corigins> renaud: that actually might be it. I had forgot about mount -s
10:21 < corigins> Thanks guys.
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10:22 < sibiria> i wish i could get nfs working from kodi/android
10:22 < renaud> it would be nice if obdev released the code for sharity, they don't seem to sell it anymore
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10:27 < corigins> renaud: have you tried busybox mount on adroid?
10:30 < renaud> yes, but a very long time ago
10:31 < renaud> there are also apps which let you mount stuff easily
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10:53 < sibiria> what's the usual reason an nfs mount request is refused? i took a quick stab at getting kodi/android to mount against openbsd again but it's just no-go and i cannot figure it out since i don't know enough about nfs
10:53 < IcePic> sibiria: not coming from a privileged port?
10:54 < IcePic> the mount request, that is
10:54 < sibiria> IcePic: android (or kodi) is indeed coming from random ports. i can see that much in the output
10:54 < sibiria> it spams me with 10-15 requests on random ports and then it gives up
10:54 < sibiria> my export looks like this:  /stuff/something -ro -alldirs -network=192.168.1.22 -mask=255.255.255.0
10:55 < sibiria> which i presume will make /stuff/something and all dirs under it accessible
10:55 < sibiria> kodi shows the path, but can't get anything
10:56 < sibiria> portmap says "server: about to do a switch", mountd says "Got mount request from 192.168.1.22" and then outputs the rejection message to var-log-daemon
10:56 < corigins> try -mapall or -maproot. could be permissions
10:57 < corigins> think -mask=255.255.255.0 would allow 192.168.1/24 access
10:58 < sibiria> just -maproot, or do i feed it a user:group spec?
10:59 < IcePic> just -maproot to start with to see if root@clientdevice can read stuff on the mount
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11:04 < sibiria> "bad opt maproot", says mountd. doesn't like it on its own. and with a user:group spec everything is rejected still
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11:05 < sibiria> -mapall user:group seems to do something, but no dir listing
11:06 < corigins> https://man.openbsd.org/exports
11:06 < corigins> try -maproot=/-mapall= root
11:07 < corigins> or find the gid/uid on the device and replicate it on system
11:08 < corigins> what does your device lo say?
11:08 < sibiria> nothing. it just says it can't access the share, or that it finds nothing in it
11:08 < sibiria> it's kodi (the media player), so no actual debug output
11:10 < corigins> how and where is kodi installed? have you tried looking up the device/kodi support?
11:10 < sibiria> it's a chinese off-brand TV box running android 11, living in a DMZ in my LAN
11:10 < sibiria> there is no support
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11:11 < sibiria> i think half the problem is the wonky android build, the other half being Kodi
11:12 < corigins> try portscanning the device and see if there's any management port open
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11:14 < sibiria> it's android, and it's rooted so i can get into it. i'm just trying to make it work in a tidy fashion
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11:15 < sibiria> kodi doesn't allow for specifying user/credentials. just a host address and a default path. this means it will try to connect as "root", right?
11:15 < sibiria> or am i misunderstanding how nfs works
11:17 < corigins> does it have man mount? i'd just try mount -v -t nfs host:/share /mntpoint
11:17 < corigins> and see what it says
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11:25 < corigins> and try setting the the folder to 777. 
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11:27 < sibiria> the directory and its subdirs are 755
11:28 < tommyrot> there's a sshfs plugin in kodi you can use if your nfs adventures fail
11:28 < sibiria> i currently use httpd with auto dir listnings :)
11:28 < sibiria> it's, uh.. not ideal.. but it works, and it's much faster than sshfs
11:29 < tommyrot> that might actually be the least prone to error solution
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11:42 < sibiria> i'll postpone to the weekend. nothing else planned for easter so i might as well have another NFS-induced aneurysm then
11:43 < sibiria> stupid file-sharing bollox
11:43 < sibiria> would be useful if mountd actually told users *why* it's rejecting
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12:26 < IcePic> sibiria: I guess that is rpc for you. The actual issue is so many layers away (mountd, portmapper) that when "mount_nfs" fails, it just knows "something did not work"
12:30 < sibiria> yeah i'm not getting any useful info at all out of neither portmap (the rpc portion) nor mountd
12:31 < sibiria> either could be misbehaving
12:31 < eea> ah debugging nfs... 
12:31 < sibiria> maybe my httpd "hack" is the neatest solution after all
12:31 < IcePic> worst part is that in order to "fix" stuff on server side, one has to restart many/most daemons, and in correct order
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12:32 < eea> does `showmount -e $host` return expected results?
12:33 < sibiria> it returned nothing when i was testing earlier
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12:34 < sibiria> the client device did find the exported file systems. just wouldn't latch onto anything
12:34 < sibiria> will have a stab at it again in the weekend
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12:50 < eea> sounds like an nfs version mismatch i had awhile ago... openbsd host and linux clients
12:51 < eea> nfsv3 vs v4
12:52 < sibiria> actually not sure what android 11 (or kodi itself) is running. there are no indications of it
12:52 < sibiria> it's an older version of kodi from 2019. kodi 18 or so
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12:53 < sibiria> though it may just use whatever android has
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14:00 < fifihyperbola> how do I delete drop tables from mysql databases?
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14:02 < renaud> drop table name
14:02 < thrig> good old bobby drop tables
14:03 < ClaudioM> heh
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14:06 < WimWalther> Howdy
14:07 < sibiria> fifihyperbola: delete from <table>, truncate <table> and drop <table> are your weapons
14:07 < fifihyperbola> ok, I have done it :)
14:07 < fifihyperbola> tnx :)
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14:22 < fifihyperbola> dang sorry I am not sure if that's related to openbsd, but I don't knw where else to ask. I have configured a web server on my vps to run wordpress. Now I want to install a plugin, but it asks me for a ftp hostname, and I am not sure what it is? Is this my mariadb details or my vps hostname
14:22 < fifihyperbola> nothing says valid
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14:23 < gnucode> morning friends.
14:23 < fifihyperbola>  morning
14:24 < ClaudioM> g'morning gnucode and fifihyperbola 
14:25 < gnucode> I am trying to change my full disc encryption password.  I booted up my machine via the installer.  
14:25 < gnucode> I am pretty sure the command to change the password is bioctl -P sd0 
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14:27 < gnucode> but thay said that it cannot locate  device sd0a.  Do I need to run "sh MAKEDEV sd0" ?
14:28 < sibiria> there's never any guarantee of the order storage devices are enumerated
14:28 < sibiria> your drive may now be sd1 and the USB drive sd0
14:28 < gnucode> sysctl hw.disknames  does show sd0 and sd1 (and rd0, which is my usb installer stick) 
14:28 < sibiria> dmesg will let you know what's what
14:28 < sibiria> yeah or that sysctl
14:28 < sibiria> if you don't recognize the DUIDs, dmesg will have the details
14:29 < gnucode> mount  says that /dev/rd0a is mounted on /  .  So rd0 is my usb installer stick. 
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14:29 < sibiria> and as you suggested, take a look in /dev to see if sd0 is actually crated
14:29 < sibiria> +e
14:30 < sibiria> if not, you create it just as you asked. the MAKEDEV script is in /etc
14:30 < sibiria> dev*
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14:32 < sibiria> as for changing the password to the master key, i'm not really sure if there are any constraints. e.g. can only be done when it's not mounted, or when it IS mounted etc.
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14:36 < gnucode> sibiria: that's pretty awesome!  I didn't realize that you can change the master password while it is mounted!  
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14:37 < vortexx> fifihyperbola: the ftp hostname would be your VPS server
14:37 < fifihyperbola> ok
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14:42 < gnucode> ok I did a "sh MAKEDEV sd0"  then "disklabel sd0"  showed that sd0a was a fstype of RAID.  I know I set up an encrypted RAID, so sd0a is probably said device.
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14:43 < gnucode> "bioctl -P sd0a"   ->   bioctl: BIODISCIPLINE:  Inappropriate ioctl for device.  
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14:48 < gnucode> I suppose that I will try to change the passphase inside my OpenBSD install and not using the installer usb disk.  
14:48 < sibiria> what happens if you point it to sd0 (without the a at the end)
14:50 < gnucode> sibiria: I am rebooting into my installed OpenBSD now.  I'll let you know in a second.  (also since I am using a physical dvorak keyboard layout, I suppose that I will change the keyboald layout to qwerty when I change the password.  Since qwerty will be the layout that I use to type the password at boot.
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14:57 < gnucode> sibiria so apparently I have to type "bioctl -P sd1".  
14:58 < gnucode> and it  worked!
14:58 < Bradipo> Well, the man page does say "Change the passphrase on the selected crypto volume.:'
14:59 < Bradipo> sd0 is not the encrypted volume, sd1 is.
14:59 < gnucode> Bradipo: I had that wrong in my head then.  I thought it was the other way around.
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15:00 < gnucode> when I OpenBSD created my encrypted volume I type in this command "bioctl -c C -l sd0a softraid0"  
15:00 < gnucode> then it asked me for a passphase. 
15:01 < gnucode> so i had thought that sd0 was the encrypted volume.  Good to know that it is actually sd1.  
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15:04 < gnucode> it is kind of cool that that works now though.
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15:04 < gnucode> I mean I have a better decryption passphrase.  
15:04 < Bradipo> I suppose it depends on how you interpret "encrypted volume".
15:05 < gnucode> Bradipo your interpretation is probably correct.  :)  
15:06 < gnucode> I'm a very new OpenBSD user.  Also I was really impressed that OpenBSD by default asks me to unlock my .ssh keys right after I log in.  
15:06 < gnucode> sibiria: as always thanks for helping.
15:07 < Bradipo> gnucode: Yes, makes having secure SSH keys simple.
15:07 < Bradipo> And easy.
15:09 < sibiria> Bradipo: it's very ambiguous
15:09 < sibiria> sd0 IS encrypted. sd1 (pseudo-volume) is the decrypted one that can be read
15:09 < sibiria> the documentation could be better
15:10 < sibiria> glad you got it sorted out
15:11 < Bradipo> Excpet, the rest of the man page refers to "creation of the crypto volume"
15:11 < Bradipo> What gets created is sd1, not sd0.
15:11 < Bradipo> "After creating a newly encrypted disk", again, this refers to sd1, not sd0.
15:11 < Bradipo> Because that is the *new* disk.
15:12 < Bradipo> So yeah, if you read the rest of the man page, the -P option actually makes complete sense.
15:14 < gnucode> if you all are curious, I did blog about my past few days on gnucode.me  The last two blog posts are OpenBSD specific.  Any pointers would be appreciated. 
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15:24 < sibiria> i saw in your post history that you have a pinephone. how are they these days? smooth experience with calls/sms etc.?
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15:35 < gnucode> sibiria: I would say it is 80% ok.   
15:35 < gnucode> I found that postmarket OS seems to be the most stable for me.   
15:36 < gnucode> I personally physically disabled wifi, because that helps the battery last longer.  But I still have to charge the battery at least for 30 minutes every 8 hours.  
15:36 < sibiria> ouch
15:37 < gnucode> phosh is the best interface at present in terms of easy of use.  sxmo  is probably better on the battery life, but I want it to be easy to use.  And the apps take about 3 seconds to load up.  But I prefer minor annoyances, because that is the most open phone that I am aware of in my price range.  
15:38 < gnucode> sibiria I also have the original pine phone.   The Pinephone pro might be a better bang for your buck.  
15:38 < gnucode> And OpenBSD is making progress on running on the PinePhone!  That's cool!  
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15:53 < sibiria> i'm super happy with iOS (iPhone), but somewhat curious on something android that's "ungoogled"
15:53 < sibiria> postmarketos or copperhead etc.
15:55 < pardis> postmarketOS is not Android
15:56 < sibiria> i know it's linux, but you know what i mean
15:56 < sibiria> "handheld edition"
15:58 < gnucode> sibiria I am a near saint in the church of Emacs.  So for me I am ok with putting up with a ton of annoyances to use freedom respecting devices.  The PinePhone is NOT RYF, but it is closer than most of the other alternatives. 
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16:11 < eea> ooo an openbsd powered phone? to whom do i send my dollars?
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16:12 < Bradipo> Indeed, I would pay $$$ for one, especially if all it does is dial phone numbers, send text, and then let me control the rest via OpenBSD.
16:13 < gnucode> https://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article;sid=20220126191703  
16:13 < gnucode> crystal is who you want to pay apparently.  
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18:00 < a1fa> hello friends o/
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19:16 < typicat> vim
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19:21 < Filystyn> is openbsd lisp friendly? O.o
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19:26 < gnucode> Filystyn I am using a guile script to auto mount by usb stick.  
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19:27 < gnucode> I am also using Haunt, which is a static site generator written in guile.  
19:27 < gnucode> so it is at least scheme friendly. 
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19:37 < Filystyn> gnucode im sensing friendliness here
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19:44 < gnucode> Filystyn: I believe commonlisp runs on OpenBSD too.   
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19:44 < Filystyn> i use
19:44 < Filystyn> sbcl
19:45 < Filystyn> so no worries
19:45 < Filystyn> clisp has shitty license
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19:47 < xtile> be gay do crime: ignore licenses
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19:48 < Filystyn> i just don't like gpl 
19:48 < Filystyn> inner feeling
19:49 < thrig> WTFPL is a thing
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19:50 < Filystyn> no warranty and ftw
19:50 < morena> ye, that text file called license with some nonsense after millions lines of code ... everybody care about these lines
19:51 < morena> Please keep in mind, my text in this IRC channel is not GPL!
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19:53 < gnucode> hey friends.
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20:52 < Zyxer> gnucode: I have a pinephone, and I can tell you battery life is the biggest issue for me. It's like max 1 hour of active usage. And that is despite me having flashed the modem firmware for bettery power optimisation
20:53 < Zyxer> I got the pinephone Pro to be specific
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21:03 < morena> one hour? so it's landliine
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21:22 < Zyxer> Active usage, not using it it can last for 3 hours or more, depending on temprature. The longest time I seen it survive was like 12 hours under optimal circumstances. Before firmware update and in that case it lasted longer if you didn't use it because it cut off the modem and just pinged pone network in intervals. 
21:22 < apotheon> morena: not landline, just not portable
21:22 < morena> can't use it while on charger? ;/
21:22 < Zyxer> Use it mostly on charger
21:23 < morena> landline ye
21:23 < morena> kind of laptop without a battery, just useless one ;/
21:23 < morena> with display of the sizee of mouse
21:24 < morena> I highly recommend 20 - 30$ dumbphones, charge it once in a week
21:24 < morena> I use Nokia 150 for like 5 or more years now, listening music there and that battery holds
21:25 < morena> only downsize is, if one need camera, that is bad there
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21:25 < morena> but I am not a spy
21:26 < thrig> my phone has infinite battery life
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21:31 < Zyxer> I did get a dumbphone after around 30 text messages it broke, "Couldn't get sms not enough space"
21:32 < xtile> I hope to switch to a dumbphone this year, then switch to having no telephone at all sometime by the end of the year.
21:32 < xtile> Phones just aren't worth the money.
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21:34 < Filystyn> i use nokia, the cheap one like old models. Very satisfied with it and it costs very little
21:35  * phy1729 prods things back to OpenBSD relevant
21:40 < morena> ye that's the point phy1729 no phone, more time with OpenBSD ;/
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21:43 < xtile> morena: exactly
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23:42 < riceandbeans> whoops, https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/04/tesla-workers-shared-images-from-car-cameras-including-scenes-of-intimacy/
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23:45 < morena> videos are send back to tesla? lol
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23:56 < phy1729> riceandbeans: that's not topical; please don't
23:58 < riceandbeans> phy1729: Sorry, I thought it was here someone was recently upset about Elon, it was another channel
23:59 < a1fa>  /sysupgrade
23:59 < a1fa> are we there yet?
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