--- Log opened Sun Apr 09 00:00:34 2023
--- Day changed Sun Apr 09 2023
00:00 < oldlaptop> https://cvsweb.openbsd.org/xenocara/app/xterm/xtermcfg.h?rev=1.23&content-type=text/x-cvsweb-markup
00:01 < oldlaptop> (xterm has a mode to emulate an old Tektronix vector-graphics terminal. In practice I don't think any non-historical software supports that that can't also just draw things in a normal X window.)
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00:21 < gnucode> I'm learning about awk and it's kind of cool.  
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00:24 < gnucode> I really wish the scheme shell worked on OpenBSD. 
00:24 < pardis> "If you think awk is the perfect programming language for the problem, you don't understand the problem yet." — Rob Pike
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00:29 < gnucode> haha.
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00:41 < gnucode> pardis: I'm starting to think that grep is actually a better tool for the problem...
00:41 < gnucode> hahaha 
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00:55 < rsjw> in /usr/src/sys/kern/sys_pipe.c, why does pip_iolock set PIPE_LWANT when it already has the lock?
00:56 < rsjw> *pipe_iolock
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01:05 < byteskeptical> rsjw: ? not sure where your seeing that. On line 330 if that's what your referring too it's a in-place bitwise OR
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01:06 < byteskeptical> s/330/320
01:08 < rsjw> yeah 320. the |= sets PIPE_LWANT in pipe_state
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01:11 < byteskeptical> kind-of I think in this case it is being used to add the bitflag to pipe_state
01:11 < rsjw> right, that's what I said :)
01:12 < pardis> why do you think it already has the lock?
01:12 < rsjw> because it asserts that it has it
01:12 < byteskeptical> you said it being set to not being added to
01:13 < byteskeptical> I think the error check below probably plays a part
01:13 < rsjw> or maybe it's only asserting that *somebody* has it
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01:15 < rsjw> ...in which case I don't get why you'd want to panic if something isn't holding the lock
01:15 < pardis> it's asserting that it holds cpipe->pipe_lock, but this function isn't taking cpipe->pipe_lock, it's setting cpipe->pipe_state |= PIPE_LOCK
01:15 < pardis> those seem like two distinct locking mechanisms to me
01:16 < rsjw> oh, so the assert is then enforcing the lock-ordering rules?
01:17 < byteskeptical> or checking that something else isn't trying to access to set its own lock on the same object
01:18 < pardis> it's unclear to me why there are two different locking mechanisms here, but that does seem to be what the code is doing
01:18 < pardis> look at how pipe_read calls it, for example
01:18 < pardis> it first calls rw_enter_write(rpipe->pipe_lock), then pipe_iolock(rpipe), then does a bunch of I/O, calls pipe_iounlock(rpipe), and finally rw_exit_write(rpipe->pipelock)
01:20 < pardis> might have something to do with the fact that pipe_iolock can return an error but rw_enter_write(9) cannot
01:20 < pardis> but I don't know what kind of errors can occur here
01:20 < byteskeptical> probably quite a few
01:20 < pardis> apparently that can happen if a signal is received, according to tsleep(9)
01:21 < rsjw> it can return whatever rwsleep_nsec returns, it looks like
01:21 < pardis> so I guess this is probably to make the lock acquisition interruptible
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01:25 < rsjw> but if another part of the code is holding the lock, wouldn't rw_enter_write block? and then when rw_enter_write succeeds, wouldn't there be nothing holding the pipe_iolock lock?
01:26 < rsjw> and if no other code is holding the lock, both locks would be immediately acquired?
01:26 < rsjw> I don't see how the second lock would ever block
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01:28 < morena> how mount with fstab with user:group owner?
01:29 < pardis> chown the root of the filesystem while it is mounted
01:30 < pardis> or ask the question more precisely, if that is not what you intended
01:30 < morena> want mount something not as root:wheel ;/
01:31 < pardis> low-effort questions get low-effort answers
01:31 < pardis> rsjw: read the documentation for the rwl argument to rwsleep_nsec in tsleep(9)
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01:32 < morena> what low effort?
01:32 < morena> just want to mount something morena:morena
01:32 < morena> not sure what more effort has to be uput into that question
01:33 < pardis> I gave you the answer to one possible interpretation of that question, that you want the root of the mounted filesystem to be owned by morena:morena
01:33 < pardis> if you meant it in another way, it would be helpful to know that
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01:34 < morena> so I can't just mount something inside /home/morena as morena:morena ?
01:34 < morena> as /home is root:wheel?
01:35 < pardis> permissions on /home have nothing to do with it, and I still don't know what your intention is, so I can't tell you if you can do it
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01:36 < morena> my intentions is to mount /home/morena/folder with owner morena:morena
01:37 < morena> morena is user
01:37 < morena> even in reality it is Goddess but that's not important now
01:37 < pardis> so mount the filesystem and chown that directory, as I said before
01:37 < morena> using fstab
01:37 < pardis> what?
01:38 < pardis> fstab can't chown files
01:38 < morena> fstab always root:wheel?
01:38 < gnucode> On linux, /dev/sda1 is GPT (or MBR) partition 1.  /dev/sda2 (or MDR) is GPT partition 2.  How would one refer to GPT partition 1 in OpenBSD of device sd0?
01:38 < pardis> fstab has nothing to do with the ownership of mount points (except in the case of mfs)
01:38 < morena> and what has?
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01:39 < pardis> the ownership of the directory that you want to chown
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01:39 < morena> I own it, when I mount it it goes root:wheel
01:39 < pardis> because the directory on the mounted filesystem is owned by root:wheel
01:39 < pardis> this is no different from changing the ownership of any other file
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01:39 < pardis> gnucode: there is no easy mapping between those
01:40 < pardis> OpenBSD device nodes refer to disklabel partitions, not fdisk/gpt partitions
01:40 < morena> you bc. /home is owned by root:wheel?
01:40 < pardis> you would need to inspect the fdisk and disklabel outputs and find which disklabel partition corresponds to the one of interest
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01:49 < morena> oh works well, no idea what I fucked up before, so was confused
01:53 < morena> oh shit
01:53 < morena> lost some backup in this process 
01:56 < rsjw> pardis: it says that pipe_lock will be unlocked while rwsleep_nsec is sleeping and it will be relocked when rwsleep_nsec returns, but I'm still having trouble seeing the point you're trying to make
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01:58 < pardis> rsjw: rw_enter_write won't block because pipe_lock will be unlocked by all processes in rwsleep_nsec
01:59 < pardis> looking again at pipe_read as an example, it calls rw_exit_write and rw_enter_write around the actual I/O operations so it's not holding pipe_lock then either
02:01 < rsjw> but the call is rw_enter_write(rpipe->pipe_lock) so doesn't that mean that after that call (and before the rw_exit_write) it *is* holding pipe_lock?
02:02 < pardis> look at where it calls uiomove
02:02 < pardis> it releases the lock for that call
02:02 < pardis> so there is a time (when the actual I/O is being done, so likely the most time-consuming part) when pipe_state has PIPE_LOCK but pipe_lock is not held
02:03 < rsjw> aah
02:04 < rsjw> ok so it's not entirely redundant :)
02:06 < pardis> the point of all this appears to me to be to make the lock-taking interruptible by a signal, otherwise signals to all threads waiting on a pipe lock would block pending the completion of I/O on that pipe by another thread
02:06 < pardis> since a signal is the only documented way that rwsleep_nsec can return an error in this case
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02:39 < morena> at least I have one cool usb stick
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02:39 < morena> with backup of backup
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08:02 < markand> o/
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08:03 < markand> I had a VM that was unresponsive, unfortunately I needed to force shutdown it. after restarting it refused to boot and tells to run fsck manually
08:04 < markand> what do you do if this happens on the host headless machine and you don't have ssh access because it didn't boot?
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08:12 < pardis> plug in a keyboard and monitor or use your iDRAC
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09:17 < IcePic> markand: for virtual machines, perhaps you can spin up another obsd vm and mount the disks on it instead and run fsck from there?
09:18 < IcePic> but having headless machines and no idrac/ilo/ipmi is a bummer
09:19 < markand> well, it's just a basic self hosting server, not running a commercial service for my living :P
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09:25 < IcePic> still a bummer if "best remote admin tool" is a fast car
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09:34 < pardis> cheap solution if you have a second network port available: stick a raspberry pi into the rack connected to a serial console
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12:02 < nadavs> I'm compiling the kernel and I think 'ld' is stuck
12:04 < nadavs> This line in 'ps' looks wrong: nadav     2018 1302.9  7.3 198916 613932 p4  R+/0    2:59PM   24:06.56 |     `-- ld -T ld.script -X --warn-common -nopie -o bsd locore0.o gap.o nbio_v7_4.o cmpci.o atom.o color_table.o intel_gtt.o ipsec_input.o atombios_crtc.o in4_cksum.o dce_transform.o dce110_opp_regamma_v.o acpimad
12:04 < nadavs> But now it's not there at all. The build is still stuck, though
12:10 < quinq> Is that on stable or current?
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12:12 < quinq> So
12:13 < quinq> I'm trying to binat things coming from an external IP to another IP on an internal network
12:14 < quinq> I have basically Internet --> [extip]--(openbsd machine)--[intip] --> int network
12:16 < quinq> I did: match match log on $ext_if from $int_dest_ip to any binat-to $ext_ip
12:17 < quinq> And just after that: pass out log quick on $int_ip
12:17 < quinq> pass in log quick on $ext_ip
12:17 < quinq> First rule is: block drop log
12:18 < nadavs> I'm running stable
12:18 < pardis> and are you building the GENERIC stable kernel?
12:18 < quinq> And so, I can see packets coming in, matching the binat rule (the rdr-to part), but then the traffic gets stuck with rule 0: block
12:18 < quinq> Any idea what I'm missing here?
12:19 < pardis> quinq: I don't see a rule to pass out on $ext_if in your description
12:19 < pardis> only pass in
12:19 < pardis> assuming that $ext_ip corresponds to $ext_if
12:20 < nadavs> Yeah. I Ctrl-C'ed it and got the shell. I ran the command again and it just passed. 'vmstat' showed 99% sys time - I think it was stuck on process exit? Now I'm building the rest of the system. Many 'cc' processes and nothing stuck so far.
12:20 < quinq> Na, $ext_ip is one of the IPS on $ext_if
12:21 < quinq> And sorry, I know it's bad, but I'm trying to give only the first rules, there's indeed later on a: pass out quick on egress from (egress) to any flags S/SA
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12:22 < quinq> And: pass out log quick on $ext_ip from ($int_if:network) to any flags S/SA
12:22 < quinq> ok, I realize that's a horrible way to share the rules…
12:22 < quinq> Let-me try putting that in order
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12:26 < nadavs> The first rule says 'on $ext_if' and the others 'on $ext_ip' - the first is a per-interface rule and the others per-IP?
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12:31 < quinq> lel
12:31 < quinq> Indeed…
12:31 < quinq> fixing that
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13:37 < quinq> Took me a bit of time, there was some lunch in between :>
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13:38 < quinq> http://ix.io/4t2V <-- so that's what I get with pfctl -s rules output
13:38 < quinq> I don't see any blocking statement in my pflog
13:39 < quinq> But I don't see any traffic of $int_if either with tcpdump
13:39 < quinq> s/of/on/
13:39 < quinq> (besides some unrelated icmp6 RS)
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16:06 < morena> how to get attachment from mail?
16:07 < thrig> there are reasons folks keep mentioning things like mutt
16:08 < morena> ajaj, ye, I did not think about attachments ;/
16:11 < morena> it can't deal with it?
16:11 < morena> that's pretty weird
16:12 < thrig> "A mail command appeared in Version 1 AT&T UNIX." MIME came along a year or two later. So not weird at all.
16:13 < morena> it does not matter when it appeared, but that it still appears
16:13 < morena> that time attachments were not a thing in mails?
16:17 < morena> I did something with base64
16:18 < morena> but not sure if that would reliable, like save that base64 text, then decode it and even somehow manage what .suffix it have
16:18 < morena> worked with zip xml
16:30 < morena> but without X it would be hard to deal with all kind of images and so anyway
16:38 < morena> in meantime please don't send me attachments, thank you ;/
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17:16 < op2> morena: i don't use mail(1) often, but maybe you can hack something with mblaze' mshow(1)
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17:17 < op2> something like this (where N is the attachment part number) | mshow -x- N
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18:35 < cinap_lenrek> hola
18:36 < cinap_lenrek> trying to get openbsd to route internet traffic for a specific ip into a tinc tap interface
18:36 < cinap_lenrek> two separate things
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18:37 < cinap_lenrek> 1) the isp wants us to respond to arp for the ips, so need a way to resolve to arp with the interfaces mac but WITHOUT actually "being" that ip (we want to just route traffic further into another interface)
18:37 < cinap_lenrek> 2) adding the route
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18:37 < cinap_lenrek> so route was added like rout add -host .... gate
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18:38 < cinap_lenrek> but then, when trying to add the arp entry like arp -s <theip> <mymac> pub permanent
18:38 < cinap_lenrek> we get
18:38 < cinap_lenrek> "set: proxy entry exists for non 802 device"
18:38 < cinap_lenrek> seems to work when the route is absent tho
18:38 < cinap_lenrek> so no idea what the rules are here
18:38 < cinap_lenrek> or what approach to take
18:39 < cinap_lenrek> in the end, all we need is for the router to respond to arp, get the traffic, and just route it somewhere else
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18:42 < quinq> yep
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19:40 < morena> op2: well if I have to install additional tool, then I can install mutt and deal with that nonsense ;/
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19:50 < psionic> Did wireguard improved a lot in the last versions? if not I stay with obsd 7.0
19:52 < phy1729> 7.0 isn't supported, so you're missing security fixes
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19:55 < psionic> OpenBSD dont need any security fixes its secure forever
19:55 < psionic> Laughs Out Loud
19:56 < psionic> When will the next version come out? I might just wait till that
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19:56 < psionic> years go by so fast damn we dont need a new one every year
19:56 < phy1729> Tomorrow, but you can't skip versions
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20:00 < psionic> you shitting me that it's coming out tomorrow ... whats that easter release
20:00 < psionic> only change I see is: Limited display of wireguard peers by ifconfig(8) to when either a wireguard interface is specified or the flag "-A" is used. 
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20:02 < phy1729> https://www.openbsd.org/errata72.html None of these are in 7.0 (Though also some may not be applicable to 7.0)
20:03 < ty3r0x_> does openbgpd support multiprotocol and extended next hop?
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20:20 < quinq> So there's that: https://www.mail-archive.com/tech@openbsd.org/msg59361.html
20:21 < quinq> tl;dr, set the ARP entry first, then add a route with a lower prio
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20:22 < quinq> While now the tools stopped yelling, the packets still don't get routed through the internal interface
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20:39 < quinq> If there's anybody interested, problem solved
20:40 < quinq> net.inet.ip.forwarding: 0 -> 1
20:40 < quinq> ^-- that freaking sysctl bites me always
20:40 < thrig> hopefully the bite doesn't look infected
20:42 < quinq> ^^
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21:10 < jf> echo "net.inet.ip.forwarding=1" >> /etc/sysctl.conf
21:11 < jf> then you won't get bitten next time
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21:13 < quinq> jf, that's not portable accross machines ;)
21:13 < thrig> I guess forwarding=1 is common with wireguard and NAT and whatnot
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