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01:23 < gnucode> hey openBSD!  
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03:19 < ox1eef_> Is there a limit set on the size of a pf table on OpenBSD ? On FreeBSD there's 'net.pf.request_maxcount' but I don't see an OpenBSD equivalent. 
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03:22 < thrig> found it in pf.conf(5)
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03:31 < ox1eef_> Ah interesting. Not managed by sysctl but the 'set' command. Thanks.
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06:20 < housemate> hello there fellow citizens of earth.
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06:21 < housemate> what is the meaning of this, it is that my relayd is crashing with this message in /var/log/messages; 'Apr 10 00:18:18 executingreality relayd[60652]: config_setrelay: fd passing failed for `proxy_tls': Too many open files'
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06:35 < Foxy_> except problem, it's release day for Open 7.3 :) https://cdn.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/7.3/ANNOUNCEMENT
06:42 < quinq> nice
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06:51 < pardis> I wouldn't rely on that information
06:51 < pardis> they have to put some date there tentatively
06:51 < pardis> there is still no date at https://www.openbsd.org/73.html and no mail to announce@, so no official announcement of a release date
06:54 < Foxy_> release day is another day...
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07:40 < lavaball> dante does its own tunnel, right? i have a wireguard going and want to route through that, which works fine, but i still need a proxy thing to connect to. tinyproxy then? is that then still a socks5 proxy? what is a socks5 proxy anyway? and where did socks 1 through 3 go?
07:40 < Reinhilde> beepen-OSD
07:41 < Reinhilde> idk where socks[123] went
07:41 < lavaball> probably lost in the washing machine.
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07:48 < Reinhilde> Ying-da Lee at NEC made SOCKS4 out of the MIPS/SGI SOCKS
07:49 < lavaball> the socks thing was a joke to apease the angry mob coming after me for my uneducated questions.
07:49 < lavaball> thanks though.
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08:30 < luna__> listening to last weeks BSD Now, been busy watching demoparties over easter
08:31 < pardis> should rename it to BSD Last Week
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08:38 < luna_> pardis: :p
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11:20 < Zyxer> Hi. I really try to find information about how OpenBSD does partitioning or reads partitions. All I have found thus far is that a is usually root, b usually swap, and c is the entire drive for example sd0. Where can I read more about it? I don't really understand i and j and such, although thus far i seems to have partition information for j. But I have no idea where to look for info on this.  
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11:33 < pardis> disklabel(5) is a good start
11:34 < pardis> the source is probably the only place if you want something really comprehensive
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11:34 < pardis> I have no idea what you mean by "i seems to have partition information for j", though
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11:36 < Zyxer> Oh, I am tired and didn't read it throghoutly, "but all other letters can be used in any order for any other partitions as desired.". 
11:37 < pardis> 'i' onwards will be used by default when initially creating a label to refer to foreign (non-OpenBSD) MBR/GPT partitions
11:37 < pardis> not sure if disklabel(5) mentions that
11:37 < Zyxer> pardis: Well, I formated a FAT32 on my linux so I could transfer files. i is a 1GB msdos partition, offset 2048, while j has the actual partition but is read as ext2 partition 
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11:38 < Zyxer> pardis: I don't think disklabel(5) mentions that
11:40 < Zyxer> On linux I made one FAT32 partition, disk is seen as sda and has one partition, sda0. On BSD it sees 2 partitions, i and j, but I guess OpenBSD makes some map partition or something for non-FFS, it is similar to how an encrypted install shows 2 different disks but they are the same. 
11:40 < Zyxer> pardis: Thanks for the info on 'i' and onwards! Very helpful :)
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11:40 < pardis> fdisk should show you the real underlying partition table and hopefully why it generates two disklabel partitions
11:41 < pardis> for foreign disks, there is no real disklabel, the "disklabel" is just generated in-memory to represent the fdisk partition table
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12:04 < Zyxer> I see
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12:11 < engblom> Anyone with right to edit https://www.openbsd.org/faq/upgrade73.html? 7.2 virtual machines running on 7.2 host will fail to update. The upgrade kernel will panic. The documentation need to say that you first need to upgrade the host, then the guests.
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12:51 < a1fa> sysupgrade!!!
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13:14 < a1fa> no drama upgrade
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13:22 < avemestr> Famous last words!
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13:41 < avemestr> But yeah, seems 7.3 is available now for sysupgrade at least on some mirrors.
13:41 < eea> ooo release happened?
13:42 < Zyxer> :D
13:42 < eea> or is happening...
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13:43 < avemestr> Worked fine here as well. i3 (or something) needed a pkg_add -u though.
13:43 < eea> either way, thanks all who made 7.3 a reality
13:43 < avemestr> eea: April 10 has been set as the date for some time.
13:44 < eea> avemestr: yea, did not realize it was 4/10 already until.checking 
13:44 < eea> ha
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13:49 < quinq> You mean 10/4?
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13:50 < lts> 2023-04-10 or bust
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13:52 < quinq> :>
13:52 < quinq> 10/4/2023, 2023-04-10
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13:58 < zwr> they can still postpone the release 10 days and release it on 4/20
13:58 < jcs> happy 7.3 day
13:59 < zwr> website just changed to 7.3
14:00 < lts> Got release email too
14:00 < avemestr> https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-announce&m=168113508418701&w=2
14:01 < Zyxer> It broke for me
14:01 < Foxy_> Happy release day for OpenBSD 7.3 \o/
14:01 < avemestr> Zyxer: Did you do a "pkg_add -u" after sysupgrade?
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14:02 < Foxy_> pardis: I was right this morning ;)
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14:02 < Zyxer> Yes, -Uu, but syspatch is broke
14:02 < zwr> it's time
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14:02 < Zyxer> error retrieving ....SHA256.sig 404 not found
14:02 < Zyxer> and in WM I can't start anything anymore
14:02 < phy1729> You may need to wait for your mirror to sync
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14:04 < Zyxer> Ok so pkg_add -Uu was needed to be able to launch stuff. 
14:06 < Zyxer> Nvm not broken. First upgrade and uh... Well tbh I didn't read how the system would be affected. But I couldn't launch terminal or anything after the upgrade. Had to go to tty in order to be able to pkg_add -Uu
14:06 < Zyxer> Caught me off guard
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14:07 < luna_> OpenBSD 7.3 released
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14:10 < lts> syspatch: Error retrieving https://cdn.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD//syspatch/7.3/amd64/SHA256.sig: 404 Not Found
14:10 < lts> cosmetic
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14:11 < byteskeptical> This is a big update lot of goodies in there, thank you all that contribute
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14:13 < lts> Is it just me or is pkg_add -u way faster than before
14:14 < rsjw> the table in https://www.openbsd.org/faq/ports/ports.html#PortsFetch says that -stable for ports is not provided by the mirrors. does this mean that if you run syspatch and install the patches, then you can't use pkg_add to install binary packages from a mirror?
14:15 < phy1729> lts: I think that landed in 7.2
14:15 < byteskeptical> it's cache based now, has been for a while on current but I'm assuming your referring to stable
14:16 < lts> cool
14:16 < byteskeptical> I have noticed quite a speed up in several places over this past release
14:16 < avemestr> rsjw: No.
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14:17 < sibiria> metadata-based, to be specific
14:17 < avemestr> rsjw: That table shows how to get the ports tree. It has virtually nothing to do with syspatch and pkg_add.
14:17 < sibiria> "quirks" contains the metadata
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14:18 < sibiria> which is indeed cached locally for some time
14:18 < byteskeptical> cache moves everything around me
14:19 < phy1729> rsjw: binary package updates are provided for some arches https://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq10.html#Patches
14:19 < rsjw> avemestr: it says you should keep your ports tree and openbsd system in sync. so if I use -stable ports, I should use -stable openbsd and vice versa, correct? and using syspatch just means I'm using -stable openbsd, so wouldn't that imply that using syspatch would mean I should use -stable ports?
14:19 < byteskeptical> rsjw: check your installurl or PKG_PATH
14:20 < rsjw> byteskeptical: for what?
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14:20 < byteskeptical> to make sure your pulling from the correct tree
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14:21 < byteskeptical> for both packages and updates
14:24 < rsjw> byteskeptical: considering that my question is about what I'm allowed to do, I don't see how that would help
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14:27 < byteskeptical> rsjw: That is how you would prevent from having to worry about doing somethinng 'unallowed'
14:27 < Zyxer> uh... Can I send audio through DisplayPort? I can't recall if it didn't work on just HDMI or all video cables 
14:28 < byteskeptical> rsjw: https://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq15.html
14:28 < byteskeptical> Zyxer: should be able too
14:28 < jf> maybe i'm not understanding rsjw. pkg_add -u (with a mirror in /etc/installurl) before / after syspatch works fine.
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14:29 < byteskeptical> Zyxer: might require some sndiod configuration to make audio come out of the correct device 
14:31 < rsjw> does pkg_add -u update the ports tree itself to -stable, or does it just update the ports that the ports tree refers to?
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14:34 < rsjw> like.. say I downloaded ports.tar.gz from a mirror... would running pkg_add -u be enought to work with that ports tree on a -stable openbsd system or would I have to update the ports tree with cvs?
14:35 < rsjw> I think I'd have to update it
14:35 < xse> pkg_add -u updates packages using a mirror, it does not touch your local ports tree at all
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14:38 < byteskeptical> rsjw: I think your confusing manually building ports from source (cvs) and installing pre-built packages from a mirror (pkg_add)
14:39 < rsjw> byteskeptical: I might be
14:39 < byteskeptical> rsjw: unless you have a need/want to build from source using the pre-builts will serve you well
14:39 < luna_> downloading from Lysator now
14:39 < byteskeptical> rsjw: and for that just setup your PKG_PATH
14:40 < rsjw> I do have a need. changing source and recompiling for certain packages
14:40 < byteskeptical> then you'll want to follow the FAQ for ports building and the setup needed for that
14:41 < rsjw> yes I know
14:41 < byteskeptical> the tree your using/updating from in that case depends on the cvs command you pass
14:41 < byteskeptical> when you set it up
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14:44 < rsjw> yeah I think avemestr understood my confusion at the beginning... the table only shows initial availability, but you can still use ports-stable from .tar.gz if you cvs update to ports-stable. I think I was confusing those two details
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14:45 < rsjw> anyway, I think I was just confusing myself, we can forget about my question :)
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14:46 < thrig> well that was a hell of an upgrade. I hope openbsd improves their scripts one of these years
14:46 < renaud> no errata for 7.3 yet
14:46 < luna_> downloaded
14:46 < luna_> renaud: well it just released
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14:47 < engblom> Anyone with right to edit https://www.openbsd.org/faq/upgrade73.html? 7.2 virtual machines running on 7.2 host will fail to update. The upgrade kernel will panic. The documentation need to say that you first need to upgrade the host, then the guests.
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14:48 < phy1729> You should email that. There aren't many devs here nor is this channel official.
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15:06 < zelest> I just tried the throughput on my apu2 with OpenBSD 7.3 and reached 440Mb/s down and 442/Mb/s up :)
15:06 < oldlaptop> I'm going to have to get mine off 7.1 now, aren't I
15:07 < zelest> could be other network traffic disturbing of course, but that's an increase of about 50Mb/s compared to 7.2
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15:09 < IcePic> zelest: now to find a site that seeds japanese anime at those speeds!
15:09 < zelest> indeed!
15:10 < rsjw> is that gigabit<->gigabit or wireless<->gigabit?
15:10 < rsjw> (assuming it's set up as a router)
15:10 < oldlaptop> if you know of a wireless interface that'll do better than 10mbit/s, I wish you'd tell me
15:11 < zelest> It's gigabit<->gigabit.. also, I don't use the wifi in the apu2, I have a separate AP :)
15:11 < oldlaptop> openbsd is not really what you want running an AP
15:11 < zelest> mhm
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15:11 < jcs> i get about 300mbps on my iwx device
15:12 < zelest> jcs, in AP mode?
15:12  * oldlaptop should specify 'in AP mode' - or do intel do AP mode now?!
15:12 < jcs> no, as a client
15:12 < zelest> indeed
15:14 < eea> 7
15:14 < eea> oops
15:14 < janner> I dunno, as soon as I upgraded to a snapshot of openbsd 7.3 , a few weeks ago, it just seemed snappier overall but I chalked that up to the SMP changes or whatnot.
15:16 < oldlaptop> Some pretty important syscalls on the list in 73.html
15:16 < janner> I see thanks
15:16 < zwr> yeah these past few releases have each gotten "snappier," OpenBSD has been making great progress
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15:17 < janner> indeed
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15:18 < thrig> hopefully they don't go to an abortive OpenBSD 8, 9, and then Enterprise OpenBSD 2
15:18 < janner> so I have been following -current but the FAQ seems to say I can't use official methods to upgrade to 7.3 stable. Can I do a usb stick and utilize the (u)pgrade option ? It seems to me that should work fine. 
15:19 < janner> OpenBSD darkone.ollie.oxenfree 7.3 GENERIC.MP#1131 amd64
15:19 < rsjw> oldlaptop: I'm running a lenovo thinkpad T450 with an intel ac 7265 and running one of those internet speed tests gives 17Mbps download. it's connected via 802.11n to the router. there are later versions of 802.11 that give higher speeds like 802.11ac and .11ax but I don't know what their support is like under openbsd
15:21 < oldlaptop> AIUI no 802.11ax stuff is supported
15:21 < janner> sorry, if that is a dumb question but I would rather be cautious than jump right in and try
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15:22 < oldlaptop> janner: It will "probably" work to upgrade from a snapshot built *before* 7.3 was tagged to 7.3.
15:22 < avemestr> janner: At this point, it is probably easier to stay on -curent.
15:22 < oldlaptop> Snapshots have been *newer* than 7.3 for some time now, however.
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15:23 < janner> I see that is what I was worried about oh well at least the ports are updated on -current
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15:23 < oldlaptop> Maybe downgrading by "only" a few weeks is less likely to break, but you still get to keep both pieces.
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15:25 < janner> at this point if I really wanted to do it then would be backup and reinstall
15:25 < oldlaptop> That would be the wise thing
15:26 < janner> yep, thanks for the replies
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15:38 < a1fa> sysupgrade w/o drama.. aint your ordinary llama
15:39 < morena> thrig: what was so "hell-ish" during upgrade? 
15:41 < thrig> <SARCASM />
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15:43 < renaud> it seems a 1.5G /usr is now not enough to sysupgrade
15:44 < renaud> on amd64
15:44 < renaud> i386 is fine
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15:44 < lts> If you are not using all sets, you can cut down the size if you do "sysupgrade -n", delete unwanted sets from /home/_sysupgrade/ , and only then reboot. (Don't do this if you are using the sets already)
15:44 < oldlaptop> walking the apu2 through my procrastination, 7.2/amd64 was already over 1480000k
15:45 < oldlaptop> lts: at that point I'd just as soon not use sysupgrade
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15:46 < phy1729> renaud: might see if sysclean finds any old libs to free up some space
15:46 < rsjw> and do what instead? a fresh install? or a different way to upgrade?
15:49 < renaud> phy1729: sysclean was already up to date. I mean, I had done a sysclean prior to upgrade but it failed with /usr full
15:49 < renaud> on amd64 only, not i386
15:50 < renaud> I always do a sysclean after uphgrade 
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15:52 < renaud> but the 1.5G sized VM is my oldest one
15:52 < renaud> 1.5 for /usr only of course
15:53 < oldlaptop> rsjw: What we all did five minutes ago (or it seems like that still) before sysupgrade, you can just boot bsd.rd and do the upgrade yourself
15:53 < rsjw> oldlaptop: oh, I didn't know that. I think I'll try that for 7.3 then
15:54 < oldlaptop> Okay, that's not funny, we've had sysupgrade for three and a half years now!?
15:55 < rsjw> it's not funny that I didn't know you could upgrade by booting into bsd.rd instead of running sysupgrade?
15:55 < lts> Hmm, my salt_master didn't like the upgrade
15:55 < Bradipo> I still prefer to use bsd.rd for upgrades.
15:55 < oldlaptop> no, it's not funny that it's been three and a half years
15:55 < rsjw> ah
15:55  * oldlaptop shakes a few fists at the passing of time, yells at the clouds, etc.
15:56 < oldlaptop> I think this is the first time in a while (since syspatch?) there've been no errata yet on release day! :D
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15:58 < thrig> them bugs, they are slipping
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16:05 < renaud> oldlaptop: yes, I also thought that
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16:08 < renaud> amazing performance increase with unbound on 7.3
16:08 < lts> Yup looks like 7.3's salt-3003.5p2 is broken for salt_master. This PR fixes it https://github.com/saltstack/salt/pull/62119
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16:21 < hussein1> syspatch: completely useless if you don't install all the sets
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16:25 < gnucode> happy OpenBSD release.  7.3 works well on my T400. 
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16:26 < tux0r> both of my openbsd servers failed to upgrade, perl version mismatch. had to rm -rf /usr/local/libdata/perl5 first.
16:26 < tux0r> whyever.
16:27 < afresh1> did you use `cpan` tooling to install modules intead of ports/packages?
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16:27 < thrig> janking up vendor space with manual installs might not be a good idea
16:28 < tux0r> afresh1: seems so ... ;-) 
16:28 < tux0r> never was a problem before. at least the solution was easy.
16:28 < tux0r> other than that, sysupgrade went painless.
16:28 < afresh1> I should probably revive this patch - https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-tech&m=162120435916828&w=2
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16:35 < gnucode> afresh1 sounds like a good idea.  :) 
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16:43 < tux0r> indeed
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16:44 < oldlaptop> hussein1: one is generally best advised to install all the sets.
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16:47 < rsjw> it's kind of strange to have a feature and then advise people to not use it
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16:48 < avemestr> Wait, what? The default is to install all sets. If somebody by own choice decides to NOT DO what is recommended to them, how can they be expected to have their hands held in the future?
16:48 < oldlaptop> The precise wording in the FAQ is "New users are recommended to install all of them."
16:48 < jcs> it was helpful in olden times when disks were small, they are not small anymore
16:49 < rsjw> "default" != "recommended"
16:49 < avemestr> rsjw: Try running the installer.
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16:49 < oldlaptop> One of these days the nth person is going to complain that $random_package doesn't work without xbase, and it's going to be one big set
16:49 < hussein1> more specifically, not installing all the sets is not supported, I think, and IIRC Theo threatened before to remove support for it at all
16:50 < rsjw> but either way, it still presents it as if it's a perfectly acceptable option
16:50 < jf> avemestr: "sysupgrade -knr" then remove the sets you do not want from /home/_sysupgrade then reboot to complete the upgrade. this only stops the installation of sets; it does not remove already-installed sets.
16:51 < oldlaptop> Easier to just not use sysupgrade, I would say. (again)
16:51 < hussein1> the decision to not detect what sets are installed and make sysupgrade respect that seems ideologically motivated to me, hence my complaint
16:51 < hussein1> but yea, I get it, don't like it, go patch it
16:51 < rsjw> oldlaptop: if a user is expecting firefox or whatever to work without xbase then that's on him, not the openbsd folks
16:52 < jcs> so submit a diff to do that, good luck
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16:52 < avemestr> jf: Yep, there's workarounds if one insists. 
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16:52 < oldlaptop> It's not necessarily things like firefox - especially font-related libraries have tendrils in places you wouldn't necessarily expect
16:53 < jf> i offered a workaround. i am not insisting on anything. do what works.
16:54 < avemestr> jf: I just acknowledged that you're right - didn't intend to say that you insists on anything, just that people that insists on doing things the not-recommended way can do so :-)
16:54 < oldlaptop> and so people show up on misc@ and whine that, oh, say, cups doesn't work without xbase
16:54 < oldlaptop> or that they can't build ports without all the sets
16:55 < rsjw> ok so default != recommended may have not been a relevant point, but also there's the point that recommended != required
16:55 < oldlaptop> Ain't nothin' *required*, at a certain point. The source is all there.
16:55 < Posterdati> hi
16:55 < Posterdati> is out! 
16:55 < Posterdati> is out! 
16:56 < jf> avemestr :) no problem. I used to rm the x*tgz sets because my installs are all headless. still think sysupgrade is - for most users - an improvement to the manual upgrade. and, there are some who want to do different and that is ok.
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16:58 < oldlaptop> I guess it's marginally less downtime, if that matters, but if you're already doing multiple manual steps (first look up the flags again, then run sysupgrade, then dig around and rm some sets, then reboot), typing 'bsd.rd' and following the prompts seems like less bother to me
17:00 < jf> i usually burn the most time on the postgresql package upgrades. that and making sure the other package updates are all "easy" on a throwaway before updating the main machines.
17:00 < thrig> oh right, forgot to run  chmod -x /usr/local/bin/dbus*
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17:43 < thrig> what the heck is ldom.conf oh sparc something
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18:15 < zwr> wow 7.3 has libjxl
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18:17 < Windshield> HELO
18:19 < Windshield> I foundf a file in my Downloads directory   ??HD@X?n?@8    is it possible I have been compromised
18:19 < Bradipo> What kind of a file is it?
18:19 < Windshield> I can't open it with vi or cat
18:20 < Bradipo> If you type: "file <filename>" does it suggest anything?
18:20 < Windshield> Is there a hex editor like tool for openbsd
18:20 < Bradipo> What does "ls -l" say?
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18:20 < Bradipo> vi can open just about anything...
18:20 < Bradipo> So unless it's a "special" file, I don't see why you think vi can't open it.
18:20 < hussein1> Windshield: xxd is a hex editor that's on OpenBSD by default
18:21 < hussein1> hex viewer*
18:21 < jf> it may also be a utf8 filename and your terminal may not be utf8
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18:21 < Windshield> ls shows it as 0 bytes, file says empt file but reports it's file name slightly shorter than what I ask on the comand line
18:21 < Bradipo> hussein1: xxd is in base?
18:21 < Bradipo> Well, if ls shows it as an empty file, there's nothing to see.
18:21 < dayid> Bradipo: yeah
18:22 < Bradipo> Unless you really think that ls has been compromised. :-)
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18:22 < hussein1> well I've definitely not installed it, and it's present, so I'd assume so
18:22 < Bradipo> which xxd reports Command not found on my OpenBSD.
18:22 < rsjw> which `xxd` gives /usr/local/bin/xxd so I'd guess that it's not in base
18:22 < hussein1> yea, it's in /usr/local/bin, so it must have come with something I installed
18:23 < kn> pkglocate(1) from the pkglocatedb package is super helpful for such questions
18:23 < jf> xxd is installed with the vim package
18:23 < rsjw> pkg_info -E `which xxd`
18:24 < phy1729> That only works if it's already installed
18:24 < kn> rsjw: that only works if you have xxd installed already
18:24 < rsjw> yeah, and he had it installed
18:24 < kn> and can only look stuff up for non-installed paths if you're online
18:24 < Windshield> Since the file is empty according to ls I will not examine it for content
18:24 < hussein1> phy1729: pkglocate also only works if it's already installed
18:24 < kn> pkglocate works instantly and offlite
18:25 < hussein1> Windshield: the only suggestion I have is to look at the timestamp and see if that gives you any insight
18:25 < Windshield> Hwever I ran ?? and it tried to run a command "gl" which openbsd reports as not found
18:25 < Windshield> ty
18:25 < Windshield> Will do 
18:25 < Windshield> Thankyou everyone
18:25 < hussein1> you tried to execute an empty file, and got a "command not found"?
18:25 < jf> hussein1 pkg_info -E /usr/local/bin/xxd
18:25 < Windshield> I will probabaly rebiuld if I can't get certainty
18:26 < Windshield> $ ??HD@X?n?@8      
18:26 < Windshield> ksh: �HD@Xn@8: not found
18:26 < dayid> ...
18:26 < Windshield> I downloaded some quake mods recently
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18:27 < dayid> If you don't know what things are I'd highly suggest to not make them +x and try to run them.
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18:27 < Windshield> They were great but one felt "funny" for some reason though I can't say which or why exactly
18:27 < rsjw> Windshield: did you switch off your computer without shutting it down properly? maybe the file system got corrupted
18:27 < hussein1> Windshield: can you pastebin the output of 'ls -lah *HD*'?
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18:28 < Windshield> no, the filesystem is CLEAN at present boot
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18:28 < Windshield> -rw-r--r--  1 welcome  welcome     0B Mar 26 21:05 ??HD@X?n?@8
18:29 < Windshield> I think it's a hack attempt
18:29 < Windshield> Possibly in a quake mod
18:29 < Windshield> I am paranoid though...
18:29 < Windshield> I run a securiy AI here
18:29 < dayid> You could look at whatever you downloaded and your mods to inspect those wad files for such filename references
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18:29 < Windshield> hmm
18:30 < Windshield> I will do that
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18:31 < rsjw> od is a hex viewer in base
18:32 < vortexx> quinq: I once held up a lanparty by an hour because of that sysctl
18:32 < rsjw> ls *HD* | od -t xC
18:32 < byteskeptical> there is also hexdump
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18:34 < Windshield> locate ??HD@X?n?@8     
18:34 < Windshield> I can't paste the output
18:34 < Windshield> hexchat won't post it
18:34 < Windshield> "/home/welcome/Downloads/�HD@Xn@8"
18:35 < jf> if your locale utf-8? ( /usr/bin/locale will display your locale )
18:35 < jf> *is
18:35 < Windshield> It doesn't appear to be anywhere else, I ran a fresh locate.updatedb
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18:37 < dayid> I don't mean you want locate, you'd want to take your install/wad files and grep or strings them for partial-matches.
18:37 < quinq> vortexx ;)
18:37 < dayid> My inclination is you have nothing to worry about but it's your system so :shrug
18:37 < Windshield> I feel it is a failed attempt
18:38 < Windshield> to compromise the mchine
18:38 < Windshield> When I run ?? on a commandline
18:38 < Windshield> it sayd gl: not found
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18:39 < rsjw> ? is a shell wildcard representing some single character. you're asking the shell to complete that with something in your pwd, like it would with *
18:39  * oldlaptop really doesn't understand this thought process of "it's a failed attempt to compromise the machine, let's try to execute it"
18:39 < byteskeptical> ^
18:40 < jf> ^
18:40 < Windshield> I haven't executed the whole string, oldlaptop 
18:40 < byteskeptical> i feel like we are getting botted
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18:40 < Windshield> just ??
18:41 < Windshield> by who?
18:41 < oldlaptop> I guess that just makes no sense, instead of anti-sense.
18:41 < Bradipo> ls | hexdump -C
18:41 < Bradipo> Can you put the output in a pastebin?
18:41 < byteskeptical> yeah but why? Virustotal is a thing if you're really sus
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18:42 < Windshield> ls *HD* | hexdump -C
18:42 < Windshield> 00000000  01 ac 48 44 40 58 0f 6e  03 40 38 0a              |..HD@X.n.@8.|
18:42 < Windshield> 0000000c
18:42 < hussein1> Windshield: by you. we didn't ask you to paste the output, we asked you to pastebin it. instead of that you've done some random other stuff.
18:42 < thrig> emptry file? who wrote this vi code
18:42 < Windshield> fsck
18:42 < Windshield> soory
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18:42 < Windshield> I'll do that
18:42 < Bradipo> Well, it was short enough it's not worth worrying about.
18:43 < Bradipo> ls *HD* pretty much kept the output to a minimum.
18:43 < Bradipo> My guess is that it's a botched attempt to save a file or something.
18:43 < Windshield> https://pastebin.com/HL4M0FRW
18:44 < Bradipo> How old is the file?
18:44 < hussein1> now pastebin the output of 'ls -lah *HD*'
18:45 < Bradipo> I'm not sure what the point of ls -a is in this case...
18:46 < hussein1> me neither, that's just the command I always use when i need to see size and date
18:46 < Bradipo> I thought he said it was 0 bytes.
18:46 < Windshield> https://pastebin.com/7jUAUSfS
18:46 < Windshield> It is by ls
18:47 < hussein1> ok so your file is: a) empty b) from 26 March c) has some weird random-looking filename
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18:47 < hussein1> based on the info availabel I wouldn't consider this an indicator of compromise
18:47 < Windshield> ok
18:47 < Windshield> I will relx a little
18:48 < Bradipo> It's more likely a bug in some tool you were using.
18:48 < hussein1> "something went wrong" and created this weird looking file - delete it and move on with my life, is what I would do in this situation
18:48 < Bradipo> But you could go through your browser history from the 26th of March.
18:48 < Windshield> ok
18:48 < Windshield> HOW risky is it running it in a non-root account?
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18:48 < rsjw> running what?
18:48 < Bradipo> Or check your boot logs... maybe you powered off unexpectedly.
18:48 < Bradipo> There's nothing to run.
18:49 < Bradipo> You cannot "run" a 0 byte file.
18:49 < hussein1> Windshield: it's safe to run as any account because it's not a file that will do anything if you try to execute it
18:49 < hussein1> it's empty
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18:49 < Windshield> OK I am going to delete it
18:50 < Windshield> done
18:50 < Windshield> thankyo for your usual openbsd-like response on this occasion
18:51 < Windshield> I will be watching closely for the next fe weeks in case anything else shows up
18:51 < Windshield> and will report if anything comes up
18:51 < Windshield> bye
18:51 < oldlaptop> (two lines is generally fine without a pastebin, as far as the spam problem goes)
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18:54 < Bradipo> The battery on my laptop died and now it cannot find the root.
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18:56 < Bradipo> http://paste.tclers.tk/5780?v=raw
18:56 < Bradipo> It's strange because the kernel boots...
18:56 < Bradipo> Just doesn't seem to be able to find the root device.  It's also the first time I've seen it try to use a NIC as a root device.
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19:01 < Filystyn> Hello
19:01 < Filystyn> Increased the size of amd64 EFI partition to accommodate newer x86 firmware updating methods.
19:01 < Filystyn> should i be worried I need to  reinstall and make new partitions ?
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19:04 < jf> Filystyn does your updated efi partition ('i' usually) now overlap other partitions on the disk? 
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19:05 < Filystyn> ok all is fine
19:07 < Bradipo> What I don't understand is why I cannot see the disk.
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19:07 < Bradipo> I get a boot> prompt, which must mean that the disk is there.
19:07 < Bradipo> But if I boot into install media shell, I don't see the disk in "sysctl hw.disknames"
19:08 < Bradipo> And the drive does not show up in dmesg.
19:08 < jf> Bradipo regular drive / partition or encrypted?
19:09 < Bradipo> Yes, whole drive is encrypted.
19:09 < Bradipo> At boot> prompt I'm asked for passphrase.
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19:09 < Bradipo> Still, even just booting install media I should see the physical drive, until I use bioctl.
19:09 < jf> mm, ok. at boot when you "machine diskinfo" do you see the raw device that the encrypted partitions sit on?
19:10 < Bradipo> Oh, hmm, this might turn out to be a BIOS problem.
19:10 < Bradipo> Seems that the BIOS got reset, and so the drive settings might be wrong.
19:11 < byteskeptical> Bradipo: so you can boot it manually?
19:12 < Bradipo> Yep, that was it... the BIOS had been switched to RAID, but it was previously configured for AHCI.
19:12 < Bradipo> After I flip that back, it now boots.
19:12 < jf> \o/
19:12 < byteskeptical> ez pz
19:12 < Bradipo> byteskeptical: All that would boot is the kernel, it wouldn't see the drive.
19:12 < Bradipo> Yeah, thanks for being a sound board. :-)
19:13 < byteskeptical> Bradipo: maybe check your CMOS battery too
19:13 < Bradipo> What's odd is that it's retaining the informatio now, but maybe it only relies on CMOS if laptop battery is dead?
19:13 < rsjw> yes that's right
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19:14 < rsjw> I believe, anyway
19:14 < Bradipo> Also, I wonder why apmd didn't do anything about it.
19:14 < Bradipo> Though, I suppose if the battery is that far gone, maybe there is nothing to do.
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19:21 < rsjw> I'd be surprised if apmd considers the cmos battery to be a power source
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19:38 < weezelding> is vmd broken in the latest snapshot? getting 'vmd: getgrnam; parent: proc_open: imsg_flush: Broken pipe; control exiting, pid 49396; priv exiting, pid 69686; vmm exiting, pid 34763'
19:39 < weezelding> whoops sorry, not the latest. snapshot from yesterday.
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19:40 < phy1729> Probably forgot to delete whatever group was before _agentx   _switchd perhaps
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19:49 < weezelding> phy1729: i think you are on spot on: doas sysmerge: **** Not adding group _agentx, GID 92 already exists
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19:49 < weezelding> thanks for the hint!
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19:52 < weezelding> i recall those were automatically removed by the sysmerge but i saw _switchd still there
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19:54 < phy1729> sysmerge only creates users/groups; it doesn't remove old ones.
19:55 < weezelding> that information had slipped away from my head, thanks for the refresh
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20:00 < thrig> gemini://perso.pw/blog//articles/openbsd-delete-old-users.gmi
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20:03 < phy1729> https://github.com/semarie/sysclean/pull/13
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20:10 < weezelding> phy1729: thanks again, works now after removing _rtadvd. that machine was unpowered for about an year so i guess i've forgot to remove the _rtadvd user and group
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21:33 < pony> NEW ARTWORK!
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21:34 < thrig> CORRUPTION WARNING in SBCL pid ...!
21:35 < thrig> maybe I should rebuild these here binaries
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22:16 < trench> The current release is OpenBSD 7.3, released April 10, 2023. This is the 54th release. 
22:16 < lavaball> 7.3 is out?
22:17 < lavaball> nice. do we have pictures?
22:17 < lavaball> muisc?
22:17 < lavaball> we have music!
22:17 < quinq> https://www.openbsd.org/
22:18 < trench> we do
22:18 < lavaball> lies!
22:18 < lavaball> that's meditation ambient noise at best.
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22:21 < lavaball> anyway, sysupgrade is done. laters.
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22:30 < morena> song? that talks has really far from a song ;/
22:36 < trench> uname -a
22:36 < trench> OpenBSD pufferfish 7.3 GENERIC#1072 amd64
22:36 < trench> :P
22:36 < trench> 1 done.. four to go
22:36 < coyote> i just upgraded my vm.. my laptop runs -current but i will have to wait until next weekend to upgrade
22:37 < coyote> kind of a pain to do with satellite internet
22:37 < tux0r> one of the few occasions where i'm happy to have one illumos server: one less openbsd upgrade to perform .. ;-)
22:37 < thrig> death, famine, war, conquest?
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23:59 < coreystephanphd> pony: The new artwork is excellent, but I was very deliberate about ordering a Dr. Seuss-themed t-shirt from 7.2 when I still had the chance :)
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