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12:24 < a1fa> is it me or pkg_add -u slowed down again
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12:28 < sibiria> i noticed the "metadata speedup" once at some point just after upgrading to 7.3, but since then it's back to more or less the old slow speeds
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12:33 < a1fa> granted, i somehow ended up with 414 packages 
12:33 < a1fa> -_-
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12:38 < a1fa> gnome was 200 of those _-_
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12:41 < xtile> well, you use it because you like it, right?
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12:41 < a1fa> i3wm
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13:04 < sibiria> 88 packages, 1m47s to check for updates. no speedup whatsoever anymore
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13:12 < a1fa> interesting
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13:27 < ew0> Hi
13:27 < ew0> Just wondering, what's a good size for /usr/src and /usr/obj if you
13:27 < ew0> you're going to be building ports?*
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13:29 < sibiria> all of them or just a few?
13:29 < ew0> sibiria: Just in general, I wasn't sure
13:30 < ew0> /usr/src is just for the openbsd tree right?
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13:31 < sibiria> all the sources and the entire ports tree is something like 500mb unpacked, without anything built
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13:31 < ew0> fair, so /usr/src doesn't have to be very big then
13:32 < ew0> what about /usr/obj though? building stuff like firefox/chromium etc
13:33 < sibiria> actually scratch that number, i was looking at some very old stuff lingering on my development setup
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13:33 < phy1729> /usr/obj is for base; iirc it's /usr/ports/pobj for ports
13:33 < sibiria> userland sources are pretty big
13:33 < ew0> aah, can't just put ports in /usr/obj/ports?
13:33 < quinq> 1.6GB
13:34 < sibiria> but ports tree and kernel source fits in <500 mb
13:34 < quinq> Sorry, 1.4
13:35 < sibiria> 400mb for ports, 550mb for kernel
13:35 < ew0> Thanks, I guess 5G is plenty for /usr/src then
13:35 < sibiria> userland is probably about a gb unpacked these days
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13:36 < ew0> was just wondering about /usr/obj or /usr/ports then if building stuff like say firefox
13:36 < sibiria> so you'll need just under 2gb for all of the sources and the ports tree - and that's before downloading any of the sources relating to the ports
13:37 < sibiria> that is, when you start building the ports they'll pull their sources and sometimes a few dependencies in
13:37 < ew0> sibiria: in /usr/src?
13:37 < sibiria> the ports' sources keep to themselves
13:37 < ew0> sorry it's been quite a while since I was in BSD land 
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13:38 < ew0> so you set up ports including the sources in /usr/ports?
13:38 < sibiria> ports tree goes in usr-src
13:38 < ew0> and /usr/obj is just for building openbsd/non-ports stuff?
13:38 < ew0> aah
13:38 < sibiria> kernel and userland (sys) goes in usr-src
13:39 < ew0> I think I need to do some reading up :)
13:39 < sibiria> ports tree goes in usr-ports, sorry
13:39 < ew0> fairs aye thanks
13:39 < sibiria> usr-src for everything that relates to the base distribution
13:39 < ew0> usr-obj is just strictly for building base then?
13:40 < sibiria> i actually can't recall if anything of the finished ports product ("package") goes in there. been many years since i last had to poke around with the sources
13:41 < ew0> fair I'll do some reading about thanks
13:41 < ew0> Just have a couple of thinkpads I was chucking OpenBSD on
13:41 < sibiria> but that said, you can keep everything in /usr while getting acquainted with it. there's no technical requirement to keep these as separate file systems
13:42 < ew0> yeah fair
13:42 < ew0> I wasn't going to change up much partition wise, maybe just run /tmp off ram
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13:58 < pardis> ew0: 5G is overkill for /usr/src
13:58 < pardis> my /usr/src is 2G and that's plenty big enough
13:58 < ew0> fairs ty
13:59 < ew0> pardis: what about your /usr/obj and /usr/ports?
13:59 < pardis> the size you need for /usr/ports depends on which ports you'll be building, since port object files go there too
13:59 < pardis> my /usr/obj is 1G, /usr/ports is 5G (and only half used)
13:59 < ew0> fair play
13:59 < pardis> but if you build chromium you'll find 5G is not nearly enough space
13:59 < ew0> yeah 
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13:59 < pardis> you can configure the ports build to put its object files somewhere else (like /home) if you run out of space, though
13:59 < pardis> see bsd.port.mk(5)
14:00 < ew0> fair, I have 500G on my T430 that i was planning to use as a server
14:00 < ew0> and 1TB on my X230 I was going to use as a daily
14:00 < ew0> so space isn't really an issue it was just if I did need to build something like chrome
14:00 < ew0> etc
14:01 < quinq> If one runs out of space, where does one end up?
14:01 < quinq> In the creator's playroom?
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15:54 < a1fa> so interestingly.. my Mouse4 is same as scroll wheel
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16:02 < morena> ye, that's the openbsd way
16:02 < a1fa> how can i remap mouse4 to "Back"
16:04 < morena> I don't think you can in OpenBSD
16:04 < a1fa> ..uninstalls
16:04 < quinq> Sadly, all the world's morning are without return
16:04 < quinq> s
16:04 < morena> ye ;/
16:05 < a1fa> there has to be a way to remap that mouse4 
16:06 < morena> ye, but then scroll will not work
16:06 < a1fa> ;) i noticed that with xinput
16:07 < a1fa> not even with wsmoused?
16:07 < a1fa> or is this a "device driver" thing
16:07 < morena> what I did in the past I setup it in software for mouse in win
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16:09 < morena> as in openbsd it was impossible as scroll and 4 5 or whatever numberes were recognized as the same
16:10 < morena> so whatever I did to one, applied also too scroll
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16:58 < ivdsangen> i have working back/forward mouse buttons in firefox and chrome, but with my config theres no scrolling with the wheel in chrome so i use firefox
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17:00 < ivdsangen> i played around with the ButtonMapping and ZAxisMapping options in xorg.conf
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17:51 < emmanuelux> hello, i am trying to get nat66 with temporary adress only like this question here https://misc.openbsd.narkive.com/NjtswxkK/nat66-with-temporary-address#, it is working (no local adress fe80:: adress like the question) but ipv6 adresses rotate between static and temporary adress (random choice or round-robin ?)
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17:54 < emmanuelux> i use this for now in pf.conf :  pass out on rdomain 0 inet6 from fd1c:e1bd:5723::/64 to any nat-to (smartphone) rtable 1   (it is a backup ipv6 with my smartphone for now)
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17:57 < IcePic> emmanuelux: would it matter if you nat-to (smartphone:0) ?
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17:59 < emmanuelux> :0 seems to choose the local adress fe80 (the first) because it doesnt work at all but not sure, it seems to have same bahaviour as in https://misc.openbsd.narkive.com/NjtswxkK/nat66-with-temporary-address#
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18:02 < emmanuelux> what i can do is a virtual ethernet adapter and make a NAT66 "supplement"
18:04 < IcePic> then again, if you are natting to something of your own choice, then you might aswell set a "fixed" generated v6 and nat to this
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18:05 < emmanuelux> yes somes here suggest to me i can do this in retreiving the public temporary adress but it is some works
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19:25 < coyote> i'm having sbcl output "map stack for pid xxxxx failed" whenever i run it, on 7.3-current.. is anyone else seeing the same thing?
19:26 < coyote> output seen on dmesg, not standard output 
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19:28 < quinq> You might have to increase your user limits
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19:30 < thrig> SBCL isn't exactly lean when it comes to chewing memory
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19:34 < coyote> i have my user limits high enough i think; this is the "staff" section in my login.conf https://clbin.com/XDdN9
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19:37 < thrig> or see sys/uvm/uvm_map.c where the message appears
19:38 < quinq> Well, maybe 8MB isn't enough
19:39 < quinq> coyote, do you have some code to share for reproducing the issue?
19:39 < coyote> i don't really have any code, i just run sbcl from a shell and it appears on my dmesg 
19:39 < quinq> hu
19:39 < quinq> I just ran it, no issue, I get the command line
19:39 < coyote> i will try making the stacksize bigger
19:40 < quinq> Ahhh
19:40 < quinq> no, I get the message
19:40 < quinq> But it doesn't seem to prevent sbcl from working
19:41 < coyote> hm..
19:41 < coyote> well i'll just ignore it then
19:41 < quinq> I don't know he
19:42 < quinq> Investigating with thrig recommendation might be interesting
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19:49 < quinq> By the way, anybody would know about my max-2-clients connections to my sndiod problem?
19:49 < quinq> I couldn't see any option to limit (and so increase) that
19:50 < quinq> I didn't happen in 7.2 AFAICS
19:50 < quinq> And I didn't see either anything about it in the changelog
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20:10 < Filystyn> I started with 6.2,  beat that
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20:12 < quinq> drop teh mic
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20:59 < croc_> I have two services on my OpenBSD server, service A and service B. They are locally accessible via ports 8080 and 8008 respectively. I'd like to make it so that they are both publically accessible through port 443. The way I'd like to differentiate connecting between the two is that if the client connects to the server's domain name, they are forwarded to service A. If the client connects to the server via its IP address, they are 
20:59 < croc_> forwarded to service B. I had originally attempted this with pf, but I found out that pf just resolves domain names and parses them as IP addresses, so it can't filter things that way. Now I'd like to accomplish this by using relayd, so far I haven't been able to create a config that accomplishes what I'd like it to, I was hoping I could get some help in that.
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21:06 < xse> croc_: where are you stuck ? my relayd only listens on 443 and the certificate it uses isn't valid for an ip addresse but i can 'pass request url "46.23.92.76/" forward to ...'
21:07 < xse> curl -k https://46.23.92.76/ -> WebSocket protocol violation .. (it's not made to be accessed that way but relayd redirects it)
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21:19 < croc_> xse: I didn't know I could use the url parameter, I've got my config set up with that now but it doesn't seem to be working still, I'm not sure if it's because I've got my relay set to listen on a tls port (service B isn't http protocol). https://clbin.com/vWyxc
21:20 < croc_> When I run curl -k on my server pointed towards the IP it says "Empty reply from server"
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21:31 < croc_> I tried removing the tls option from the relay, didn't seem to impact it, service B still unreachable.
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21:39 < xse> eeh i'm not sure you can do it like that if they're both different protocols indeed, my example works because websocket is over http(s)
21:39 < xse> Relayd is not able to redirect like both ssh and https on the same 443 port like sslh does for example
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21:47 < croc_> ahhhh I see. That sucks
21:48 < croc_> Could you think of any other ways to accomplish my goal using the built in tools?
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22:06 < xse> not really you'd need something that speaks both protocol and is able to take decisions based on your needs. Look at the sslh i mentioned earlier for example that thing probes for a few different specific protocols and redirects
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22:49 < croc_> xse: alright, thanks for the help regardless
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23:03 < nij-> Need help for installing openbsd (on a virtual machine)!
23:03 < nij-> I don't know how to install sets correctly.. https://bpa.st/S6XFO
23:04 < nij-> The main error message is "Unable to get a verified list of distribution sets."
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23:13 < morena> nij-: you should install 7.3 not 7.0 unsupported version if you will have issue with sets for whatever reason, you can download installer with sets already included
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23:17 < emmanuelux> 7.3 upgrade => "You should also check /etc/dhcpcd.conf (which was modified)"
23:17 < emmanuelux> dont see change, a original to compare ?
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23:18 < thrig> maybe there's a /var/sysmerge or something like that
23:19 < emmanuelux> etc.tgz?
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