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00:29 < coreystephanphd> self-promotion, new little blog post: https://www.coreystephan.com/openbsd-thinkpad/  -- cheers :)
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00:30 < PyR3X> how best to handle 302 redirect for https when using relayd and only running httpd on port 80?
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06:32 < Voyager_MP> Firefox keeps crashing: Crash Annotation GraphicsCriticalError: |[0][GFX1-]: wr_renderer_render: OutOfMemory (t=82043.8)
06:33 < Voyager_MP> how can I prevent that ? 
06:33 < Voyager_MP> defining a login.conf limit would not help right ? 
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08:51 < epony> it's a good hint to check that, also you can make a backup of your profile directory (just in case) and test with the -esr version of the package and see if it has the same issues
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09:20 < jnml> I'm trying to install Go 1.20.3 from sources on OpenBSD/386 7.3. The process OOMs (https://go.dev/play/p/scSMmH9w-X7). Looking for tips how to adjust the installation (a 4GB VirtualBox VM, Linux/amd64 host) to save some memory in hope I can make the Go build finish. Thanks in advance for any help.
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09:24 < IcePic> jnml: I think ulimits and/or login.conf should "suffice"
09:25 < IcePic> but it might be that it takes lots more than largest single allocation on i386 can give you
09:25 < IcePic> obsd does some tricks on i386 to allow for memory policy separation that limits the largest possible allocations one can have
09:25 < IcePic> a wild guess would be "look at how i386 builds the golang package" and reuse that
09:25 < IcePic> ..would work
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09:33 < jnml> IcePis: Thanks! I'm not a regular user of OpendBSD. Can you please point me to where I can look at the scripts that build the Go package for OpenBSD?
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09:33 < jnml> IcePic: Sorry fo the typo in the nick.
09:34 < engler> Does waitpid(2) work in an edge-triggered fashion, that is, it returns whenever a state change? Or does it return EVERY TIME a process is stopped?
09:35 < jnml> IcePic: output of ulimit -a https://go.dev/play/p/oreaquVVZL6. Do you see anything I should change?
09:36 < IcePic> jnml: https://cvsweb.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/ports/lang/go/Makefile?rev=1.132&content-type=text/x-cvsweb-markup to be very specific, guide to working with ports (ie, 3rd party stuff) http://www.openbsd.org/faq/ports/ports.html
09:36 < IcePic> and np on the misnick
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09:37 < IcePic> engler: my understanding is that it would wait for the event to happen, then as it happens (once) it stops waiting and the waiter process runs on
09:38 < IcePic> engler: just like a "sleep(10);" would. It would not "fire" every 10 seconds or so
09:38 < IcePic> jnml: I don't know exactly which one you dumped in to, so I would run "ulimit -aH" to see your hard limits and bump all that seem memory related like data seg size, max memory size, virtual memory and so on
09:38 < engler> IcePic: thanks! I will try it out.
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09:43 < jnml> IcePic: Retrying the build now with ulimit -aH showing https://go.dev/play/p/OyZTtLVNQTW
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09:52 < pardis> the soft limits are what is relevant to the build
09:52 < pardis> the hard limits just show you what you can raise the soft limits to
09:53 < IcePic> and login.conf (plus re-logon) can up the hard limits to a certain (sometimes arch-specific) degree
09:55 < jnml> Thanks to all for help, the build succeeded! https://go.dev/play/p/ERnGHv6BYYo
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14:04 < krzych> Hi, how can I enabled flow control for my interface card? I can't see on manual commands in manuals
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14:16 < avemestr> man pflow(4)? Random guess.
14:19 < mybalzitch> krzych: https://man.openbsd.org/ifmedia.4 seems to covver it, then "ifconfig if0 mediaopt flow" might do it
14:19 < mybalzitch> "ifconfig if0 media" should give a list of choices
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14:20 < mybalzitch> where you substitute if0 for the name if the interface you want to work on
14:22 < oldlaptop> The manual page for the driver itself should "cover it" as well, if that interface actually supports that media option.
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14:24 < krzych> media: Ethernet 10GbaseLR (10GbaseLR full-duplex,rxpause,txpause)
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14:27 < krzych> ifconfig ix1 mediaopt flow
14:27 < krzych> ifconfig: unknown Ethernet media option: flow
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14:56 < IcePic>  avemestr: pflow is something else entirely
14:58 < xmszkn> hi
14:59 < mybalzitch> krzych: txpause and rxpause are flow control
14:59 < xmszkn> Is it possible to check somewhere if my openbsd will go on a particular specification?
14:59 < xmszkn> of hardware
14:59 < xmszkn> im noob I only tray obsd on VM, qemu on linux
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15:02 < gman999> what do you mean xmszkn?
15:02 < gman999> something about hardware?
15:02 < pardis> sounds to me like the question is how to know if hardware is supported by OpenBSD
15:02 < pardis> there is no easy way other than trying it, but you can install to a USB stick to try it without any commitment
15:03 < pardis> alternatively, you can spend hours trawling man pages and source code to see if your device IDs are supported
15:03 < sibiria> fuguita
15:03 < pardis> you could also try searching https://dmesgd.nycbug.org/index.cgi?do=index in case someone with similar hardware has posted a dmesg
15:03 < xmszkn> I want to install on my laptop, and for example, I want to check whether my devices according to the lspci list will be supported, mainly wifi
15:04 < pardis> the easiest way really is to install to a USB stick and see
15:04 < xmszkn> pardis: exactly
15:04 < sibiria> wifi support is an ongoing struggle with openbsd. you can have a look-see with "apropos" on man.openbsd.org, or just try booting fuguita 
15:04 < gman999> dmesgd... :)
15:04 < xmszkn> right :)
15:04 < pardis> then if your USB stick install works, you can install again to the hard drive
15:04 < gman999> that's my baby, pardis... result of a long night 20 years ago.
15:04 < pardis> the benefit being that if it doesn't work, you don't clobber whatever is currently on the hard drive
15:05 < gman999> yes.. usb boot makes the most sense to try
15:05 < gman999> in the old days you'd bring a bootable bsd usb to a computer store to check
15:05 < xmszkn> so openbsd on usb or fuguita which better solution?
15:06 < sibiria> fuguita is openbsd live system
15:06 < pardis> FuguIta is unofficial but might be slightly easier
15:06 < sibiria> with all drivers and firmware etc.
15:06 < xmszkn> if easy that is for me i think
15:06 < pardis> OpenBSD on USB requires taking 5 extra minutes to go through the installer
15:06 < xmszkn> I'll be trying
15:06 < pardis> but then you're sure you have real OpenBSD and not someone else's unofficial build
15:06 < xmszkn> thx
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15:07 < gman999> or jsut boot off openbsd usb then go to shell then `dmesg | less`
15:07 < sibiria> install kernel doesn't have all drivers
15:07 < gman999> right.
15:07 < pardis> and certainly won't have firmware to test wifi with
15:07 < gman999> what's the hardware in question?
15:08 < xmszkn> in this moment i can't answer
15:08 < xmszkn> wifi some intel
15:08 < gman999> so it's just the intel wireless in question?
15:10 < xmszkn> i think, yes, maybe some more
15:10 < xmszkn> wait...
15:11 < xmszkn> https://bin.disroot.org/?374b1b443376db80#s4ip4b3tUfNdp2fSMp4Eik3YNDMK5uSVyTW9vTzggUH
15:11 < xmszkn> this is my lspci
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15:12 < xmszkn> its old hardware
15:13 < gman999> old can be better...
15:13 < pardis> should be supported by iwn(4)
15:13 < xmszkn> i find info then fw_update i can use to install proprietary firmawre
15:13 < xmszkn> pardis: :)
15:13 < pardis> https://man.openbsd.org/iwn mentions the 6200
15:15 < xmszkn> great thanks for your help, I really did not expect such a response, I will try the usb, maybe I will be more satisfied than on the VM, for the moment thank you
15:15 < gman999> enjoy
15:15 < gman999> i had never heard of fuguita... 
15:15 < gman999> those projects tend to come and go
15:16 < gman999> i remember the anonymOS ppl from atlanta and their brief moment
15:17 < xmszkn> Will try to ask specific questions, after first reviewing the documentation :)
15:18  * oldlaptop would find fuguita a fair bit more useful if it were a live system on which fw_update -a has already been done
15:18 < pardis> wasn't the claim just made that it is just that?
15:19 < pardis> <sibiria> with all drivers and firmware etc.
15:19 < pardis> I don't use it so I don't have first-hand knowledge
15:19 < sibiria> yes it had all of it last i tried it a few years ago
15:20 < sibiria> why, did he change his views on licenses/distribution?
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15:21 < oldlaptop> when last *I* tried it it didn't :|
15:21 < oldlaptop> I mean, it has all *drivers*, because it has, um, ordinary GENERIC kernels
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15:22 < pardis> https://fuguita.org/?FuguItaGuide/3-Operation#content_1_21
15:23 < pardis> this suggests it doesn't have any fw_update-fetched firmware, since the instructions say to run fw_update
15:23 < oldlaptop> Yeah, that's broadly what I remember.
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15:25 < sibiria> so he refurnished it. then xmszkn should put iwWHICHEVER-firmware from firmware.openbsd.org on storage in advance
15:27 < krzych> mybalzitch: tnx, you helped a lot
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15:50 < mybalzitch> krzych: I think oldlaptop had the most correct and helpful answer, but thank you
15:50 < oldlaptop> As it happens ix(4) doesn't say much about media options
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18:10 < _egm> where is a good place to start when looking into why bsd.upgrade freezes on boot always after the softraid0 line. 
18:10 < _egm> yet normal kernel boots just fine
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20:31 < Xeroine> From what I understand `disklabel` automatically selects the raw character device because performance in that case isn't as important as accuracy of the contents of the disk,  right? 
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22:30 < rjc> win 2
22:30 < sibiria> ftw
22:31 < rjc> note to self: always prepend the command with a /
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23:00 < epony> now you know why all these C-xs C-xc and !wq show up at seemingly random positions in text files
23:05 < morena> this was hidden propaganda for windows!
23:05 < thrig> what does xwindows have to do with anything
23:12 < sibiria> it has everything to do with it. windows was the first micro computer
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23:23 < epony> there's quite a bit of macro programming to reach the abstractions of UNIX (designs) leading to OpenBSD (prominent macro processing), indeed  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macro_(computer_science)?useskin=vector#Text-substitution_macros
23:23 < thrig> it was roff going, at first
23:24 < epony> McIlroy mentioned in the article too, quite a historic significance of his participation in the designs..
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