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02:21 < corigins> is there a way to add or block an ip based on a relayd rule to pf?
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05:50 < corigins> So with tail and awk magic, I was able to block using relayd tag
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07:39 < Voyager_MP> I have 2 FW's with 3 interfaces (em0 ISP, em1 HA (crossover), vlan4020 (FW-A: 10.192.20.1, FW-B 10.192.20.3) now I would like to use carp over em1 for the IP 10.192.20.2 in order to have a hsap ip for vlan4020
07:40 < Voyager_MP> I can't use carp native on vlan4020 since the vlan does not support multicast/unicast 
07:40 < Voyager_MP> is this possible ? 
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09:50 < finkfox> oldlaptop: thanks for the hint with mpd. I finally got it to work. Sofar it feels very promising. Using ncmpcpp client (couldn't they find a better name for it :-)
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15:25 < lognull> my "pkg_info -Q <package>" ( xml e.g. ) is returning only 4 results. Pretty strange. It can't even find xml++. This openbsd box was upgraded from 7.2 to 7.3... Maybe something related to it ?
15:30 < op2> lognull: if you're on -STABLE pkg_info -Q might need some encouragment
15:31 < op2> see https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=168146951800732&w=2
15:32 < lognull> op2: it worked as expected. Thanks a lot.
15:35 < phy1729> That doesn't seem to mention using -aQ
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15:36 < op2> i'm failing to see how it's useful when searching for something
15:37 < op2> ah, sorry, i've read only the -a description
15:38 < phy1729> Yeah it's hidden under -Q
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16:34 < FUZxxl> greetings
16:34 < FUZxxl> Does OpenBSD support AVX-512?
16:35 < FUZxxl> I know it supports AVX/AVX2, but I found nothing about AVX-512.
16:38 < sibiria> it's the processor that holds such instructions, not the operating system
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16:40 < FUZxxl> sibiria: and it's the operating system which needs to turn support for these on and know to save the extra state on context switch
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16:42 < Voyager_MP> How to solve a asymetric routing problem, FW-A and FW-B redirect port 500,4500 to a vm that both reach, but of cource the traffic back runs to the Mmster System, in that case FW-A 
16:43 < Voyager_MP> I know it will work as soon as the carp switches the master FW 
16:44 < Voyager_MP> I would prefere an active/active lb system
16:46 < pr-asadi> Greetings. How can I know my power's power suppply? I mean, I want to know how many watts my power has. Unfortunately I do not have the sticky-note which it has this information.
16:46 < pr-asadi> Is there a way to find it?
16:47 < FUZxxl> pr-asadi: how is this related to openbsd?
16:47 < FUZxxl> It's not like the PSU of a PC has any data wires that could tell the mainboard what its rating is.
16:47 < pr-asadi> FUZxxl: It is not related. I know, but users of OpenBSD are professional.
16:48 < thrig> eh? we are?
16:48 < FUZxxl> My recommendation: take apart your computer and look at the PSU.  Likely, you just have to take off a side panel.
16:48 < lts> Mk I eyeball
16:48 < FUZxxl> if it's a prefabricated model, you could also inquire with your vendor
16:48 < sibiria> you can use any width simd you want no matter if the OS "supports" it or not, but if you're asking what the current compiler does then yes it has avx512 enabled since long for all its valid targets
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16:49 < FUZxxl> sibiria: you cannot
16:49 < FUZxxl> sibiria: if the OS has not enabled AVX-512, using these instructions will make your program die with SIGILL
16:50 < FUZxxl> hence my question: does OpenBSD have support for AVX-512?  More specifically, does the kernel have support?
16:50 < pr-asadi> FUZxxl: To be honest, in the past, I do not remember correctly, my power got destroyed, and I gave to a hardware-repairer man, to fix it, now I do not know remember the repairer changed the power, or just repaired it.
16:50 < uwharrie> FUZxxl: http://cvsweb.openbsd.org/src/sys/arch/amd64/amd64/mds.S?rev=1.4&content-type=text/x-cvsweb-markup * we don't support AVX512 yet */
16:50 < FUZxxl> Note that AVX-512 also introduces new registers which the kernel needs to know how to save on context switch.  OS support is definitely needed.
16:50 < FUZxxl> thanks
16:51 < FUZxxl> pr-asadi: there's no way around taking it apart then
16:51 < pr-asadi> I just want to change my graphic card. I have found a 'amd xfx hd 5450 2GB'.
16:52 < pr-asadi> FUZxxl: And no way to know how many watts does it have?
16:53 < FUZxxl> pr-asadi: it should say on the label on the PSU.  The computer does not know.
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16:53 < pr-asadi> Current graphic card is "NVIDIA Geforce 210", it uses 31 Watts.
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16:53 < sibiria> surprised to see it concerns itself with the instruction set. but it doesn't care if you have 16 or 32 registers available for the FMA. it accepts what the compiler says
16:53 < pr-asadi> FUZxxl: my power does not have that sticky label. I do not know it's a secondhand power supply, or it's just my own.
16:53 < FUZxxl> hm I see
16:54 < FUZxxl> unless it's a super powerful GPU, I would recommend just putting it in
16:54 < pr-asadi> FUZxxl: If it's mine, it has 600 Watts.
16:54 < FUZxxl> if it's unstable, buy a bigger PSU
16:55 < pr-asadi> FUZxxl: It's not a powerful GPU, it's "amd xfx hd 5450 2GB", the websites say it needs 300 watts.
16:55 < pr-asadi> It's an old graphic card.
16:56 < FUZxxl> that is a lot of power
16:56 < FUZxxl> for what does not look like a powerful gpu
16:56 < FUZxxl> are you sure you want that?
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16:56 < pr-asadi> I just want a graphic card to use it on the OpenBSD.
16:56 < pr-asadi> An amd graphic card.
16:56 < FUZxxl> Get the cheapest and least powerful one you can find
16:57 < pr-asadi> FUZxxl: I have two monitors. It would be a little hard to find one. 
17:00 < FUZxxl> I see.
17:00 < pr-asadi> https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/xfx-one-hd-5450-deluxe-edition-2-gb.b1729
17:00 < pr-asadi> I'm really confused.
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17:00 < pr-asadi> Some websites say at least a power with 300 Watt.
17:01 < FUZxxl> oh that
17:01 < FUZxxl> is the total system power, not the power draw of the gpu
17:01 < pr-asadi> And this website says it uses 19W and suggested PSU is 200W.
17:01 < FUZxxl> that cooler could never disperse of 300w
17:01 < FUZxxl> I wouldn't worry
17:01 < FUZxxl> will likely be just fine
17:01 < sibiria> overdimensioned to err on the safe side
17:01 < pr-asadi> FUZxxl: This card's utmost usage is 19W?
17:02 < FUZxxl> I don't know
17:02 < FUZxxl> but could be
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17:02 < lts> Thermal Design Power is 19W, but this is quite far from OpenBSD. #hardware could help you better
17:03 < pr-asadi> lts: What do you mean by "quite far from OpenBSD"?
17:04 < lts> The topic is not very suitable for this channel
17:04 < pr-asadi> OH yes. Thank you FUZxxl lts.
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17:13 < lts> pr-asadi: looks like the discussion on #hardware went off a tangent a bit. If you just want to know can you use your new GPU, then very likely your new GPU uses less power than the old one, and you should be ok using it
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17:16 < pr-asadi> lts: Thank you. Yes, it did went.
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17:18 < lani> greetings and hello
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17:21 < lani> is there something in base that would allow a person to view mouseclicks in real time
17:22 < uwharrie> lani: like xev(1) ?
17:22 < lani> uwharrie: aha, yes I thought I recalled using this before, thank you for jogging my memory
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18:25 < lani> unlrated stupid question about sendmail for anyone who might have experience, is this error related to the format of my message, or smtpd configuration itself? this was sent from a 7.2 box and I haven't configured any mail stuff
18:25 < lani> https://clbin.com/bnnlW
18:26 < thrig> generally there's a blank line between the message header and the body
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18:30 < lani> thrig: thank you. yes I see no error now, it appears to have sent. the gmail account I'm using to test maybe didn't accept it, it's not in my inbox or spam. my isp could be blocking port 25 too, who knows. will have to dig into that a little
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18:36 < lani> tested from a vps i have with port 25 open, i'm guessing gmail sucks
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18:43 < tuu> tuu
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18:45 < thrig> or there's like 50 layers of anti-spam things you need to get right
18:47 < lani> yeah I think I'll just configure smtpd to use a gmail account and that should fix it. trying to forward system emails to a cell phone.
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18:48 < lani> s/system emails/script output
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19:57 < a1fa> hello
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19:58 < a1fa> i dont think my gpu acceleration has loaded after modifying xorg.conf to support back buttons
19:58 < a1fa> is there anything else i need to do to enable it
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20:03 < a1fa> it's amdgpu on 5600G
20:03 < a1fa> amdgpu0 at pci11 dev 0 function 0 "ATI Cezanne" rev 0xc9
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20:16 < a1fa> weird
20:16 < a1fa> it has nothing to do with the device conf
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20:22 < a1fa> it needed a fw_update after all
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21:29 < a1fa> i am loving the new gnome console (kgx)
21:30 < a1fa> too bad it does not have adjustable trans
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21:39 < a1fa> exit
21:39 < a1fa> exit
21:40 < thrig> try the exuent
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21:40 < a1fa> :P
21:41 < thrig> or however you spell that
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21:43 < a1fa> i hate having to hack on gsettings to get stuff to work
21:44 < thrig> last I supported gnome I had to put in a cron job to kill gnome-shells that had leaked too much memory
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21:47 < a1fa> kgx is pretty cool
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21:58 < a1fa> who was the guy having fwd/bck mouse button issues from the other day?
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