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00:35 < captnemo> when I disable pledge completely (not ideal I know), I no longer get a segfault, but I get a pop-up from tor-browser saying tor has exited during startup, the dmesg still gets populated withe the same pledge error
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00:37 < xse> croc_: i'm not sure what you mean by hostname of the request; $ ftp -Vo - https://0x0.st/HNg7.conf | grep meow
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00:38 < croc_> xse: that example you provided is perfect for what I'm trying to do, thanks.
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00:51 < nitro_> and a good day to you all. i have successfully setup a pi3b as an AP, and after some experimenting, have learned that the pi is not capable of multiple SSIDs. i do have usb dongles that can on linux, however, the openbsd driver(run0) cannot. my query: is OpenBSD capable of hosting multiple SSIDs on a single interface? figured id ask before dusting off an old laptop to try again
00:52 < croc_> xse: I want to set multiple headers when a request has a particular tag, is there a cleaner way of doing it than simply repeating the "match response tagged" prefix for every header?
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01:05 < xse> don't think so like how would it know it's for that tag if you don't specify it
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01:19 < croc_> xse: I just thought that I might be able to do with with lists similar to other OpenBSD tools. Thanks for the help anyways, it's working well.
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01:22 < PyR3X> can doas deal with a * character for command arguments?
01:23 < thrig> a * gets expanded before doas is even run
01:24 < PyR3X> I want to allow a user to chown files in a directory but I don't know their filenames
01:25 < thrig> write a wrapper script
01:25 < PyR3X> to do what exactly
01:25 < thrig> chown files in a directory
01:25 < PyR3X> this command is in a wrapper script
01:26 < PyR3X> permit nopass _motion cmd /usr/sbin/chown args www:www /path/to/dir/files/*
01:26 < PyR3X> is what I want to allow
01:26 < thrig> so, put the chown into a script, and allow the user to call that script in doas.conf
01:26 < caze> Why do you want to allow a user to do that?
01:27 < PyR3X> thrig: big brain idea
01:27 < PyR3X> I like it
01:28 < PyR3X> caze: because use _motion is creating files but they need to be readable by www.. _motion calls an action script when completing writing and I'd like to chown the files when it completes
01:28 < PyR3X> *writable by www rather
01:29 < caze> Wouldn't it be sufficient to put them both in a group?
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01:31 < PyR3X> nextcloud data is owned/managed by user www -- motion runs as _motion and generates .mp4 files (security cam) in a directory it has group write permissions to. However, nextcloud cannot delete these files because they are not owned by www. motion calls a script upon completion of writing .mp4 files so I just want to change the user to www to be
01:31 < PyR3X> managed by nextcloud
01:33 < caze> If the directory were group writeable, and nextcloud were in that group, then it could delete the files
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01:34 < fro> wild
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02:16 < croc_> I'm trying to create a filter in relayd that depends on the hostname of the server being an onion address. Whenever I try to save the config with the onion address in place it tells me that the host is invalid. Is there anything I can do about this?
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02:18 < croc_> Also, I should mention, it's a specific onion address not a catch-all.
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03:23 < PyR3X> +-- UNMET OPTIONAL DEPENDENCY sqlite3@https://github.com/mapbox/node-sqlite3#918052b538b0effe6c4a44c74a16b2749c08a0d2
03:23 < PyR3X> oops
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05:35 < captnemo> Uh, re: the tor-browser thing, I found the issue after a little digging and it was from a jacked login.conf that I forgot to reset.
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10:31 < nedko> folks, i have a bit old openbsd 6.7 with smptd running. i want to whitelist ab incoming mail
10:31 < nedko> *an
10:32 < nedko> should i update the spamd-white table with pfctl?
10:32 < nedko> argh
10:32 < nedko> s/smtpd/openstmpd and spamd/
10:35 < nedko> or maybe nospamd table
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10:41 < nedko> i did temporary whitelist by MTA IP, i can only retry will come from same whitelisted ip address
10:42 < nedko> temporary whitelisting by "source email address" as fake it can be in case of spammers will be better, if i find how to do it
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10:44 < nedko> the connecting MTA host is has mailrelayNN in DNS name, so i'm not holding my breath
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10:49 * nedko changed it to a /24 table entry
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11:08 < nedko> it worked :)
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14:38 < Voyager_MP> Firefox forgets my logged in sessions, after a restart, why ?
14:38 < Bradipo> Look at the settings.
14:39 < Voyager_MP> for what ?
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14:43 < Bradipo> Firefox governs behaviors by it's settings in about:preferences
14:43 < Bradipo> But what exactly do you mean by "logged in sessions"?
14:44 < sibiria> unless you mean that it's losing its cookies, the option is "startup->open previous windows and tabs"
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14:45 < Voyager_MP> no I mean I have to login to amazon for example everytime I open firefox
14:45 < sibiria> in the privacy section you will find an option "delete cookies and other site data when ff exits" or something, which if ticked will do exactly that
14:45 < Bradipo> This is hardly OpenBSD specific.
14:46 < Bradipo> Unless perhaps unveil(2) is getting in the way of Firefox from preserving cookies and you think there is a bug.
14:46 < Voyager_MP> yes it is, this is only on firefox running under obsd
14:46 < Bradipo> So you think there's a bug?
14:47 < Bradipo> Because it it's just your settings in Firefox, this is absolutely *not* OpenBSD specific.
14:47 < sibiria> on top of that the privacy mode can interfer with this depending on how "third-party-y" some sites are for login cookies, and also if the browser is running in permanent incognito mode nothing will ever be saved
14:47 < Voyager_MP> It running under default settings, I allready deleted my dotfiles
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15:11 < jcs> disable unveil and try to reproduce it
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17:13 < finkfox> a terminal app to manage calendar/appointments: I only see/know khal, any other you can recommend?
17:13 < Bradipo> "manage"?
17:13 < Bradipo> I usually just use vi(1) and calendar(1)
17:15 < n4dir> there is that stoneage old one a friend of mine wrote to learn bash. In case you care to look at the code, i can give the link. Probably much of a hack, but it did the job.
17:15 < Bradipo> Though, I don't know if calendar(1) supports specific year formats.
17:15 < Bradipo> e.g. one-time events.
17:15 < Bradipo> And the granularity of calendar(1) is just 1 day.
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17:16 < Bradipo> man page for calendar suggests at(1) for scheduling things at a specific date/time.
17:18 < Bradipo> At one point in time used orage (from xfce)
17:18 < jmcunx> There is port remind-4.2.3 - maybe execute xmessage(1) from it based upon date/time
17:18 < Bradipo> https://docs.xfce.org/panel-plugins/orage/start
17:18 < Bradipo> Oh, wait, scratch orage, you said terminal.
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17:23 < thrig> snooze 4m ; xembiggen tea
17:23 < finkfox> Bradipo: just reading the man docs for calendar/at
17:27 < Bradipo> at(1) may not be ideal since it's really just a job queue.
17:27 < Bradipo> But it's in base and you could script something with it likely.
17:27 < thrig> depends on what alert it fires and how much you pay attention to said alerts
17:27 < Bradipo> Yep.
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17:28 < Bradipo> I use calendar(1) and have a small script in Xsession that fires up xmessage with the current calendar items when I login.
17:29 < thrig> xmessage ain't really scaled for high dpi monitors (xembiggen is)
17:29 < finkfox> Yes that should do fine
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17:30 < finkfox> I don't think I need xmessage alerts. Just look at my calendar at start of day.
17:30 < Bradipo> Oh, well, as long as you remember to type "calendar" in your terminal at least once before you have anything to do, that would work.
17:30 < Bradipo> Though, you could put it in your .profile too
17:31 < n4dir> could autostart it :-)
17:31 < Bradipo> Then you would get a reminder every time you start a login shell.
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17:31 < Bradipo> True, you could just put it in your .xsession so it starts once.
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17:31 < thrig> https://thrig.me/tmp/xmessage.png https://thrig.me/tmp/xembiggen.png
17:32 < Bradipo> xmessage looks good enough for me.
17:32 < Bradipo> But now that I think of it, perhaps an xterm would work too.
17:32 < thrig> or writing a tool to display a line of text as bigly as possible isn't very hard
17:33 < Bradipo> Something like the following could be placed in .xsession: xterm -e 'calendar; sleep 60'
17:34 < Bradipo> I usually use banner for "bigly" text.
17:34 < Bradipo> If it want it bigger than bigly, I use /usr/games/banner
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17:39 < thrig> of course someone whose schedule is more involved than "tea in four minutes" and "rotate sourdough starter at around 2 pm" might need something different
17:39 < Bradipo> Right, as I said, calendar(1) only has a granularity of 1 day.
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17:40 < Bradipo> And, as far as I can tell from the man page doesn't support specific days.
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17:41 < Bradipo> e.g. I cannot do 05/20/2023\tsome event only on this date
17:41 < thrig> probably it made sense for whenever Version 7 AT&T UNIX came out
17:41 < Bradipo> It works great for recurring things and reminders on specific days of the week.
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17:47 < uwharrie> I tend to keep remind installed as it can do date ranges, complicated repeats, alerts, agendas, calendars on screen and in print, etc
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19:24 < vi-user> hello, all
19:25 < vi-user> has anyone here managed to configure smtpd with ipv6
19:25 < quinq> yes
19:25 < vi-user> dope, I can't lol
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19:25 < vi-user> I keep receing this error message warn: Failed to get source address for
19:26 < vi-user> from= to= rcpt=<-> source="-" relay="b3zdna.net" delay=0s result="TempFail" stat="No valid route to destination"
19:26 < vi-user> source is missing as well for some reason too
19:26 < vi-user> lemme paste my config real quick
19:26 < quinq> I like those names at least
19:27 < vi-user> frodomcnuggets is an old friend
19:27 < thrig> one might make cutting remarks about them
19:27 < vi-user> https://bpa.st/PELGQ
19:28 < thrig> what does ifconfig wg0 look like?
19:28 < vi-user> https://bpa.st/55MGU
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19:29 < vi-user> the interface works, you can even ping my laptop from your network
19:29 < quinq> To be honest I don't see anything problematic here, should work
19:29 < vi-user> the goal of my the local server on my laptop is just to send mail to a mail bastion
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19:29 < vi-user> could it be a DNS issue then?
19:29 < quinq> Yeah could be
19:30 < vi-user> I'm able to dig every record fine... which is even more wierd
19:30 < quinq> I can see that soyuz.b3zdna.net doesn't resolve publicly
19:30 < quinq> Also resolving b3zdna.net is kind of very slow from here
19:30 < vi-user> hold on
19:30 < vi-user> brb
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19:33 < vi-user> still nothing
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19:33 < vi-user> even when I switch to just the IPv6 addr
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19:35 < vi-user> May 17 19:33:09 soyuz smtpd[5323]: 0000000000000000 mta delivery evpid=a8f9c0149ebd3fe9 from= to= rcpt=<-> source="-" relay="b3zdna.net" delay=1s result="TempFail" stat="No valid route to destination"
19:35 < vi-user> May 17 19:33:23 soyuz smtpd[5323]: smtp-out: Enabling route [2606:d608:1714:1::4] <-> [2606:d680:1714:1::1] (b3zdna.net)
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19:36 < vi-user> delivery to a server works
19:36 < vi-user> sorry, *my server
19:37 < vi-user> weird...
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19:59 < mornfall> anyone got gen12 intel laptop and has suspend to ram working?
20:00 < thrig> it maybe didn't work so I put the usual lidaction=0 on and haven't checked recently
20:02 < mornfall> do you just keep it running while moving about?
20:03 < mornfall> (hibernate works fwiw, but it takes a painfully long time)
20:03 < thrig> between the deck out back, a kitchen table, a comy chair, and the bed, yes
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20:04 < mornfall> not quite what i had in mind, unfortunately
20:04 < oldlaptop> Of course not - why would you willingly subject yourself to the comfy chair?
20:05 < thrig> I'm catholic in my tastes
20:05 < mornfall> (i'd be surprised if it ran cool enough to be shoved in a bag while powered on, but it's within the bounds of imagination)
20:07 * jmcunx I would not put a running laptop in a bag, you may endup with a jet pack
20:07 < mornfall> happened by accident more than once; if you don't notice quick enough, the hardware decides it's too hot and turns itself off
20:09 < mornfall> might even work with a tickless system (i know, not the case of openbsd)
20:09 < mornfall> though i have heard some rumours
20:09 < thrig> I had a company-issued windows xp laptop that liked to turn itself on in a backpack
20:10 < thrig> (worst OS I've ever used)
20:10 < Bradipo> XP runs faster than newer Windows though. :-)
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20:13 < sibiria> XP sure was very snappy. it had at least that going for it
20:13 < mornfall> that's quite relative
20:13 < mornfall> it'd crawl on systems that were running fine on 3.11 :p
20:13 < sibiria> XP on 10 years older hardware is snappier than linux-anything with XFCE
20:14 < sibiria> ironically it's also about 10 years less useful. or 20
20:15 < n4dir> xfce from the time where XP was a thing was pretty snappy
20:16 < mornfall> i don't know how, but software always manages to get slower even as it keeps piling on performance improvements :-)
20:16 < thrig> xp once took 25 minutes to boot and become usable, all the while a senior vp of payments was yelling at me
20:16 < n4dir> mornfall: amazing, isn't it?
20:17 < thrig> also it would helpfully turn on little menu doo-dads I had (foolishly) thought that "disable" would get rid of
20:17 < mornfall> version 2.2 is 20% faster than 2.1, 2.1 is 8% faster than 2.0, which is 50% faster than 1.2 yet somehow 2.2 takes twice as long to do anything than 1.2 did
20:18 < sibiria> thrig: "click this balloon to blargh"
20:18 < sibiria> the hell you say, it's a speech bubble, not a balloon
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20:23 < Mozies> Are there any tips about preserving the life(writes) of an SSD on OpenBSD? Like reducing writes in relation to logs, storing as much as possible in RAM, compressing before writing once a day to SSD.
20:24 < oldlaptop> Not much OpenBSD-specific, I don't think. You probably want to mount filesystems noatime, and probably also want to worry a little bit less about this whole issue.
20:24 < oldlaptop> They're designed to survive *Windows*, after all.
20:24 < Bradipo> If I have to micromanage my drive, perhaps it's not the best option for me.
20:24 < oldlaptop> "Storing things in RAM" is an even shakier idea than it might be on linux, given the limitations of mfs relative to tmpfs.
20:26 < sibiria> Mozies: noatime as mentioned, and softdep on very busy file systems (but do read up on the risks associated with softdeps)
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20:39 < IcePic> oldlaptop: then again, if it is syslogs we talk about one could ask rsyslog to keep a ram buffer, and only flush it in intervals, instead of many small writes. Doesn't have to be mfs/tmpfs
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20:44 < thrig> openbsd being well known for log spam over syslog
20:46 < sibiria> "i don't know why my computer blinks so much"
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21:36 < tommyrot> the cheapest ssds can endure at least 50gb written to it per day for their entire warranty period, i.e. 2-3 years
21:36 < tommyrot> i don't think noatime will extend lifespan with even an hour in the long run
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21:47 < mornfall> it might be more significant than you'd expect because writes happen in units of 4KiB
21:49 < mornfall> (but still not very significant, unless you have some very weird stuff going on…)
21:49 < quinq> (who doesn't)
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21:51 < mornfall> but yeah if you hit a dozen files every second and somehow all of it ends up being written, that's a little under 10% of the quoted write endurance
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22:01 < oldlaptop> Writes have performance implications too - it's not as bad as spinning disks in an absolute sense, but random writes are far slower than random reads
22:01 < oldlaptop> generally speaking, anyway
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22:01 < oldlaptop> (whereas on spinning disks it didn't really matter)
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22:02 < pardis> and that is especially true of OpenBSD with its biglocked I/O stack
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23:31 < Bahhumbug> ~~~
23:31 < Bahhumbug> (pardon)
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