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02:14 < tuu> i can't sleep..  i'll install openbsd instead.
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15:09 < morpho> what are some ways I can avoid browser fingerprinting? I am changing to different user agents but still manage to come up as very unique. Is this something to worry about?
15:10 < sibiria> firefox has a "resist fingerprinting" mode you can enable, but it comes with annoyances
15:11 < thrig> ditch the modern web as much as possible
15:11 < thrig> (unless, I don't know, you're into that sort of thing)
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15:15 < morpho> its just using a BSD already puts you in the <0.02 of user agents, I'm trying to find an appropriate spoof but the idea doesnt seem to work very well
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15:16 < morpho> the fact the user agent doesnt match any other details appears unusual.
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15:18 < thrig> I set w3m to use a MSIE 8 Windows 8 user agent. it's amusing to see what sites finger-wag or reject that agent
15:19 < oldlaptop> I wonder how much bogus code you can still get served to you by purporting to be ie6
15:19 < pardis> I wonder how many tracking UIs won't escape HTML if you put that in your user agent
15:20 < phy1729> privacy.resistFingerprinting does a decent job. Just remember your timezone is UTC now.
15:20 < oldlaptop> Mozilla 9001;DROP TABLE sheeple;--
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16:11 < dkeav> little bobby drop tables
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16:12 < Bradipo> Seems that hiding browser information is one way to further marginalize those who are using alternatives.
16:13 < Bradipo> Maybe I want my bank to know that they have a customer who is using something other than Edge on Windows so they can be aware that their customer base is broader.  If they care.
16:14 < Bradipo> Of course most don't care, so maybe it's just as well to hide.
16:15 < pardis> there are Firefox add-ons that will let you set a different user agent per website
16:15 < Bradipo> Yep.
16:16 < oldlaptop> Of course they know they have customers using something other than Edge on Windows: most of them use Chrome on Windows!
16:16 < Bradipo> lol
16:16 < oldlaptop> (microsoft has fallen far, they can't really even get their own chrome skin adopted.)
16:17 < oldlaptop> having already had to give up on maintaining an independent implementation of the GoogVM because (apparently) it's just not reasonable for an entity as small as microsoft to do that anymore
16:24 < ule> anybody here running NeoVIM 0.9 on OpenBSD?
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16:28 < sibiria> i use two add-ons for FF that randomizer user-agent and deny certain readouts from css/js
16:28 < sibiria> all in all it sort of "randomizes" the fingerprint, or at least a lot of it. some things appear impossible to obscure
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16:29 < sibiria> Random User-Agent (Switcher), and CanvasBlocker
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17:16 < dkfjm> where the file(s) '*compiler_rt*' are supposed to be located?
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17:17 < uwharrie> more context needed
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17:19 < dkfjm> can you find those under /usr on your system?
17:20 < Bradipo> dkfjm: Try: find /usr | grep compiler_rt
17:20 < thrig> not the context switches!
17:21 < dkfjm> nothing bradipo
17:22 < uwharrie> `find /usr -type f -name '*compier_rt*'` gives me /usr/lib/libcompiler_rt.a
17:22 < uwharrie> which appears to be from llvm via http://cvsweb.openbsd.org/src/gnu/lib/libcompiler_rt/Makefile?rev=1.6&content-type=text/x-cvsweb-markup
17:24 < dkfjm> what fileset is that?
17:24 < Lucas6023> compiler
17:24 < pardis> it's in the base set, but that shouldn't matter, since you should have installed all of them
17:24 < Lucas6023> no, actually it's from base
17:25 < uwharrie> likely comp*.tgz
17:25 < uwharrie> ah
17:25 < uwharrie> unless it's on an arch that's still gcc only?
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20:24 < rahl-> How can I review output from pkg_add -Uu? Lost to the backlog
20:26 < pardis> -Uu is redundant, just use -u
20:26 < pardis> and it will log to syslog, which goes to /var/log/messages by default
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20:46 < Bradipo> Found an interesting non-portable gnuism in a sed script that I wrote a while ago...
20:47 < Bradipo> Apparently this is not kosher: sed -n -e '/pattern/ { s/something// }'
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20:48 < Bradipo> Specifically it doesn't like the syntax of {}.  Which according to the man page on OpenBSD must needs have newlines.
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20:50 < pardis> a semicolon works too
20:51 < Bradipo> Oh, hmm, didn't see that in the man page.
20:51 < Bradipo> Indeed it does work though if the function has a ; after it.
20:51 < thrig> send a patch?
20:52 < Bradipo> Yeah, guess it's needed.  It does says this "The use of newlines to separate multiple commands on the command line is non-portable; the use of newlines to separate multiple commands within a command file (-f command_file) is portable."
20:53 < Bradipo> And indeed, I knew that ; could be used to separate individual functions ala: sed -e 's/abc//;s/xyz/abc/'
20:53 < Bradipo> But didn't know that ; could be used in place of newlines.
20:53 < Bradipo> So yeah, maybe a patch will be forthcoming if I can figure out how to word it so it doesn't muddy things more.
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20:54 < Bradipo> Though, the beginning of sed does say that "Multiple commands may be specified separated by newlines or semicolons..."
20:54 < thrig> or maybe that's detailed in the bell labs technical report
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21:56 < thedaemon> Greetings all. hope all is well
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22:01 < byteskeptical> no for real
22:01 < thedaemon> no you
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