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It seems typing; "pfctl -a f2b/wordpress-xmlrpc -t f2b-wordpress-xmlrpc -T add 3f02:2102:4ce5:ffde:6187:ee9:615d:7100" fails, getting: 0/1 addresses added. After checking, the tables are indeed there and they got IPv4 addresses. Does PF not support adding IPv6 addresses in such way into anchor tables? 10:00 < IcePic> perhaps try [v6....]? It should support v6 ips 10:00 < sibiria> i wonder if you can mix address families within one and the same table, as that would require internal separation to provide proper lookup 10:00 < zelest> it should be doable 10:01 < sibiria> sure you don't happen to have the address in the table already? 10:02 < zelest> I don't have any anchors though, but adding the table and address works fine here (-current) 10:03 < sibiria> ah yeah works well, pf separates the families internally so formats can coexist in same table 10:04 -!- elastic_dog [~elastic_d@2a01:118f:620:5c00:3e1e:4014:786a:95cb] has joined #openbsd 10:04 < sibiria> maybe grep the contents to make sure address isn't in there 10:18 -!- accelerat0r [~user@user/accelerat0r] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:22 -!- memset [~memset@gateway/tor-sasl/memset] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:23 -!- memset [~memset@gateway/tor-sasl/memset] has joined #openbsd 10:25 -!- djhankb [~djhankb@208.113.164.68] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:26 -!- djhankb [~djhankb@208.113.164.68] has joined #openbsd 10:27 -!- haddock [~haddock@user/haddock] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:30 -!- jaj [~jaj@menial.joachim.cc] has left #openbsd [] 10:31 -!- format_c [~format_c@home.koeppe.rocks] has joined #openbsd 10:33 -!- tjdaugaard [~tjdaugaar@nat-cgn9-185-107-12-178.static.kviknet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:34 -!- xet7 [~xet7@user/xet7] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 10:40 -!- xet7 [~xet7@user/xet7] has joined #openbsd 10:42 -!- n4dir [~user@i59F518DD.versanet.de] has joined #openbsd 10:44 -!- donofrio [~donofrio@c-68-40-123-196.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #openbsd 10:46 -!- jaj [~jaj@188.165.237.24] has joined #openbsd 10:50 -!- haddock [~haddock@195.22.88.165] has joined #openbsd 10:52 -!- haddock [~haddock@195.22.88.165] has quit [Changing host] 10:52 -!- haddock [~haddock@user/haddock] has joined #openbsd 10:55 -!- byteskeptical [~amnesia@user/byteskeptical] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 10:55 -!- nightlord [~nightlord@nightbbs.ru] has quit [Server closed connection] 10:55 -!- nightlord [~nightlord@nightbbs.ru] has joined #openbsd 11:00 -!- schillingklaus [~schilling@ip2504e22a.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:04 -!- tjdaugaard [~tjdaugaar@nat-cgn9-185-107-12-178.static.kviknet.net] has joined #openbsd 11:05 -!- wiu [~wiu@user/wiu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:06 -!- Alhazred [~Alhazred@user/Alhazred] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:08 -!- wiu [~wiu@user/wiu] has joined #openbsd 11:13 -!- n4dir [~user@i59F518DD.versanet.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:26 -!- Leone [~Leo@104.247.239.156] has joined #openbsd 11:27 -!- engler [~engler@user/emilengler] has joined #openbsd 11:30 -!- engler [~engler@user/emilengler] has quit [Client Quit] 11:33 -!- reset [~reset@user/reset] has joined #openbsd 11:38 -!- Alhazred [~Alhazred@user/Alhazred] has joined #openbsd 11:39 -!- Rynn [~rynn@216.30.158.198] has joined #openbsd 11:41 -!- tozhu [~tozhu@117.139.163.129] has quit [Quit: tozhu] 11:41 -!- jaj [~jaj@188.165.237.24] has left #openbsd [] 11:41 -!- jaj [~jaj@menial.joachim.cc] has joined #openbsd 11:42 -!- newchair [~newchair@d-24-145-4-109.paw.cpe.atlanticbb.net] has joined #openbsd 11:43 -!- jmjl [jmjl@user/jmjl] has quit [Server closed connection] 11:44 -!- tjdaugaard [~tjdaugaar@nat-cgn9-185-107-12-178.static.kviknet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:44 -!- jmjl [jmjl@user/jmjl] has joined #openbsd 11:49 -!- manu2 [~p4x639@2001:871:250:615:8da9:c598:1f7f:1305] has joined #openbsd 11:50 -!- hwpplayer1 [~user@user/hwpplayer1] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:50 -!- manu2 [~p4x639@2001:871:250:615:8da9:c598:1f7f:1305] has quit [Client Quit] 12:03 -!- hwpplayer1 [~user@user/hwpplayer1] has joined #openbsd 12:07 -!- tjdaugaard [~tjdaugaar@nat-cgn9-185-107-12-178.static.kviknet.net] has joined #openbsd 12:08 -!- Mete- [~quassel@186.250.13.100] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:09 -!- engler [~engler@user/emilengler] has joined #openbsd 12:10 -!- Mete- [~quassel@2804:da8:f7a0:c9f8:45f4:bf48:f2ea:c8b3] has joined #openbsd 12:11 -!- format_c [~format_c@home.koeppe.rocks] has quit [Quit: format_c] 12:15 -!- bouncy [~ben@user/benoit] has joined #openbsd 12:19 -!- tozhu [~tozhu@171.212.255.76] has joined #openbsd 12:19 -!- evh [~evh@user/evh] has quit [Server closed connection] 12:19 -!- evh [~evh@user/evh] has joined #openbsd 12:20 -!- sunwind` [~paradox@31.111.34.245] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:21 -!- thrig [~thrig@c-73-225-161-25.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #openbsd 12:22 -!- antithesis_ [~antithesi@77-174-158-201.fixed.kpn.net] has joined #openbsd 12:23 < antithesis_> Hello. X.org is the default windowing system for OpenBSD, right? How does OpenBSD address the security issues that it has? 12:24 -!- jaj [~jaj@menial.joachim.cc] has left #openbsd [] 12:24 < renaud> antithesis_: https://www.xenocara.org/ 12:25 -!- sunwind [~paradox@31.111.34.245] has joined #openbsd 12:27 < IcePic> antithesis_: openbsd was very very early in moving X resource init early and dropping privs so it runs as _x11 user instead of root 12:28 < antithesis_> In X there is no separation between applications so that a keylogger can easily be included in a program. Is this addressed? 12:31 < IcePic> I don't think so. Running an application as you, means (generally) that it can steal your secrets one way or another 12:32 < IcePic> on non-x11, something with your uid would be able to steal input events from the pty/tty too, I guess 12:35 < antithesis_> Isn't that a concern? From what I understand, this problem isn't present on Windows, macOS or Android. Qubes addresses it even though it uses X.org. 12:36 < IcePic> perhaps it is a concern, but at the point where you have malicious code running as you, the possibilities are very very wide 12:37 < IcePic> by that time, there exists tons of concerns 12:38 < IcePic> but if anyone has a decent solution to it, with code to match and which doesn't break a lot of other usability concerns, I'm sure obsd would be happy to hear about it 12:38 -!- hsw [~hsw@2001-b030-2303-0104-0172-0025-0012-0132.hinet-ip6.hinet.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:39 -!- hsw [~hsw@2001-b030-2303-0104-0172-0025-0012-0132.hinet-ip6.hinet.net] has joined #openbsd 12:39 -!- tf [~tf@user/tf] has quit [Server closed connection] 12:40 -!- tf [~tf@user/tf] has joined #openbsd 12:40 -!- SirJitsu [~SirJitsu@162-231-111-175.lightspeed.livnmi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openbsd 12:44 -!- feriman [~feriman@188.163.114.49] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:48 < antithesis_> IcePic: the solution is program isolation such as implemented in Qubes and Kicksecure, or per-program privilege management such as implemented in Android and macOS. I'm a little surprised because I read that OpenBSD aims to be the most secure OS, but they neglect something which others successfully address. 12:49 -!- jaj [~jaj@menial.joachim.cc] has joined #openbsd 12:49 < IcePic> Qubes works on how many platforms? 2? 12:50 < IcePic> You are going to drop a lot of stuff by just hopping onto virtualizing each program you run 12:50 -!- feriman [~feriman@188.163.114.49] has joined #openbsd 12:50 < dkeav> at that point of paranoia, why even use a computer at all 12:50 < renaud> Qubes is not really usable either, you lose too much time fighting the system 12:50 < IcePic> dkeav: nah, it has uses. 12:51 < IcePic> but OpenBSD aims to be a unix first, and secure second 12:51 < IcePic> if suddenly windows 12 becomes the paragon of security somehow, obsd would not turn itself into windows 12:51 < dkeav> i mean its not really worth the risk though, hermitage on a secluded island is the only way to be sure 12:55 -!- technoid_ [~Tech@twoaday.nettek.io] has quit [Changing host] 12:55 -!- technoid_ [~Tech@user/technoid/x-1284035] has joined #openbsd 12:56 -!- hwpplayer1 [~user@user/hwpplayer1] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:57 < coreystephanphd> Tails has many important uses, such as for investigative journalists or for persons doing any sort of intellectual work whatsoever in countries with censorship. Qubes is an oddball. Use OpenBSD :) 12:58 < coreystephanphd> ...for regular desktop, if you are paranoid. 12:59 -!- scain [~scain@2603-8080-b104-4e00-45cf-678b-0a7f-b897.res6.spectrum.com] has joined #openbsd 13:00 < IcePic> and I would probably phrase it more like " _a_ solution is program isolation such as.." 13:02 < IcePic> OpenBSD allows for some "per-program privilege managemant" with pledge and unveil, for certain sensitive programs in ports and almost all programs in base. On OpenBSD, chrome and FF can't read your ssh keys, so there are mitigations at different levels 13:03 < thrig> or you could do modern web stuff on a burner laptop and assume it is compromised 13:04 < antithesis_> It's still possible to take concepts from other OSes without turning into them. I also mentioned Android. They show that the security feature I mentioned can be implemented in a practical way. 13:04 < IcePic> please do 13:06 -!- seninha [~seninha@user/seninha] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:09 -!- Xenguy [~Xenguy@user/xenguy] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:11 -!- rsadowski [~rsadowski@sizeofvoid.org] has quit [Server closed connection] 13:11 -!- rsadowski [~rsadowski@sizeofvoid.org] has joined #openbsd 13:20 -!- morte_ [~user@user/monkey/x-0691028] has joined #openbsd 13:23 -!- samebchase [~samebchas@46.23.94.19] has quit [Server closed connection] 13:23 < oldlaptop> pledge(2) in particular *is* how something like android's "permission model" can work on an actual unix 13:24 -!- samebchase [~samebchas@46.23.94.19] has joined #openbsd 13:24 < thrig> or what passes for unix these days 13:25 < eea> oh the nostalgia for the hostility of at&t sysv ;} 13:26 < zelest> thrig, anything with POSIX and without systemd :D 13:26 < IcePic> Hey, SCO is up at sysVr7 or 8 by now, those are the true leaders 13:26 < thrig> Apple at some point ponied up for the real unix label 13:26 < CosmicDJ> thrig: they had to because one of their OS X marketing pages contained UNIX... 13:27 < CosmicDJ> https://www.quora.com/What-goes-into-making-an-OS-to-be-Unix-compliant-certified and someone, they still re-certify; macOS seems to be the last UNIX(R) that see active development? https://www.opengroup.org/openbrand/register/ 13:27 < CosmicDJ> s/someone/somehow/ 13:28 < oldlaptop> IIRC it's moved on from fake-SCO now, the official owner of "UNIX" (that's apparently still suing IBM over UNIX) is, absurdly, called "XinuOS" (i.e. named after one of the classic trademark evasions) 13:28 < sibiria> i don't think they had to. i think they wanted (and want) to, because steve jobs saw some value in it 13:28 < oldlaptop> Apple spent a *lot* of effort on getting that UNIX(TM) sticker 13:30 < CosmicDJ> anyway, IIRC solene is working on an Qubes implementation on OpenBSD, see https://dataswamp.org/~solene/2023-06-06-openkubsd-design.html and https://bsd.network/@solene 13:32 -!- scroom [~hamza@redchai.org] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.3] 13:33 -!- byteskeptical [~amnesia@user/byteskeptical] has joined #openbsd 13:34 -!- byteskeptical [~amnesia@user/byteskeptical] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:38 -!- byteskeptical [~amnesia@user/byteskeptical] has joined #openbsd 13:40 -!- Mete- [~quassel@2804:da8:f7a0:c9f8:45f4:bf48:f2ea:c8b3] has quit [Quit: https://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.] 13:41 -!- Mete- [~quassel@2804:da8:f7a0:c9f8:45f4:bf48:f2ea:c8b3] has joined #openbsd 13:43 < antithesis_> I read an article about unveil. It's called Unveil unveiled. 13:43 < thrig> night of the living unveils 13:45 < CosmicDJ> there's a book called "Die GNU Autotools!", sadly it was written in German... 13:46 < thrig> die, bart, die! 13:46 < antithesis_> lol 13:47 < thrig> (cmake I failed to figure out how to use, meson I haven't figured out yet how to get the rpath stuff into the pkg-config file...) 13:49 -!- gman999 [~GMan999@user/gman999] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 3.8] 13:49 -!- hwpplayer1 [~user@user/hwpplayer1] has joined #openbsd 13:50 -!- feriman [~feriman@188.163.114.49] has quit [Quit: leaving] 13:51 -!- newchair_ [~newchair@d-24-145-4-109.paw.cpe.atlanticbb.net] has joined #openbsd 13:51 -!- feriman [~feriman@188.163.114.49] has joined #openbsd 13:52 -!- newchair_ [~newchair@d-24-145-4-109.paw.cpe.atlanticbb.net] has quit [Client Quit] 13:52 -!- newchair [~newchair@d-24-145-4-109.paw.cpe.atlanticbb.net] has quit [Quit: newchair] 13:52 -!- newchair [~newchair@d-24-145-4-109.paw.cpe.atlanticbb.net] has joined #openbsd 13:53 -!- memset [~memset@gateway/tor-sasl/memset] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:53 -!- unpx [~unpx@151.71.201.177] has quit [Server closed connection] 13:53 -!- unpx [~unpx@151.71.201.177] has joined #openbsd 13:53 -!- memset [~memset@gateway/tor-sasl/memset] has joined #openbsd 13:55 -!- Edihwar [~edihwar@epistolas.mmxiv.net] has quit [Server closed connection] 13:55 -!- Edihwar [~edihwar@epistolas.mmxiv.net] has joined #openbsd 13:58 -!- Bradipo [~amb@50-77-44-29-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #openbsd 14:07 < Tekk> thrig: there was also "Die Ewoks Die" c: 14:07 < Tekk> Which I think was just the "Ewoks" show in the US 14:11 -!- jaj [~jaj@menial.joachim.cc] has left #openbsd [] 14:12 -!- MrPlop [~cedric@bender.ddpo.be] has quit [Server closed connection] 14:12 -!- MrPlop [~cedric@bender.ddpo.be] has joined #openbsd 14:14 < thrig> jubjub 14:14 -!- zimmer [~zimmer@92.40.216.88.threembb.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:16 -!- jaj [~jaj@menial.joachim.cc] has joined #openbsd 14:23 -!- hwpplayer1 [~user@user/hwpplayer1] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 14:24 -!- ikarso [uid475540@id-475540.tinside.irccloud.com] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 14:25 -!- b50d [~b50d@62.96.54.30] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:29 -!- Tracnac [~Thunderbi@user/tracnac] has joined #openbsd 14:33 -!- keypresser86 [~f8b93c@97-122-191-15.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #openbsd 14:34 -!- cpet [sid605712@id-605712.uxbridge.irccloud.com] has joined #openbsd 14:34 -!- lavaball [~Melissa@31.204.155.215] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:35 -!- optimant [~optimant@user/optimant] has joined #openbsd 14:36 -!- dsrt^ [~dsrt@c-71-204-38-59.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:46 < byteskeptical> I just updated to current #1232 (amd64) and seem to be back to core dumping firefox and iridium 14:47 < byteskeptical> tried starting the fox in safe-mode but I can't even get it to launch 14:48 < byteskeptical> backtrace points to libxul 14:48 < byteskeptical> anyone experiencing anything of the like? 14:48 -!- CalculusCats [NyaaTheKit@user/calculuscat] has quit [Quit: Meow Meow Meow Meow Meow Meow Meow Meow] 14:49 -!- Tracnac [~Thunderbi@user/tracnac] has quit [Quit: Tracnac] 14:49 < byteskeptical> tried #1230 & #1231 as well with the same behavior this is firefox(114) 14:49 -!- horrad [~horrad@217.91.26.253] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:50 < IcePic> perhaps FF needs updating to work with -current? 14:50 < byteskeptical> yeah this with the latest pkg_add as well 14:50 -!- CalculusCats [NyaaTheKit@user/calculuscat] has joined #openbsd 14:50 < byteskeptical> they seems to have been updated rather recently though I get what your saying 14:52 -!- jacobk [~quassel@209.121.168.2] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:58 < cpet> Did you try recompiling it with newer libxul ? 15:00 -!- solaarae [~solaarae@24.9.147.69] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:00 < byteskeptical> cpet: not yet but mostly because I don't think there is one at least not that I could find seems to be the latest 15:02 < cpet> I've seen a lot of programs just work after manually recompiling them especially on current 15:02 -!- cleric [~cleric@138.68.21.116] has quit [Server closed connection] 15:02 -!- antithesis_ [~antithesi@77-174-158-201.fixed.kpn.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 15:02 -!- cleric [~cleric@138.68.21.116] has joined #openbsd 15:03 < byteskeptical> ok i believe you, I'll try it 15:04 * xse is gonna update and try 15:04 < byteskeptical> living dangerously i see 15:05 < Bradipo> byteskeptical: After upgrading to 7.3, it seems FF crashes a lot more when using Teams. Other than that FF seems alright. 15:06 -!- Vizva [~vizva@gateway/tor-sasl/vizva] has joined #openbsd 15:07 < byteskeptical> Bradipo: I've been on 7.3 since release and have only ran into this issue in the past week and a half (on and off) on snapshots but this is the longest stretch of continous breakage thought I was missing something 15:07 -!- zimmer [~zimmer@92.40.216.54.threembb.co.uk] has joined #openbsd 15:07 < Bradipo> Yeah, I haven't tried to diagnose it yet, I usually just restart FF and eventually it stops crashing. 15:07 -!- gman999 [~GMan999@user/gman999] has joined #openbsd 15:08 < sibiria> diagnosis: snapshot 15:08 < byteskeptical> Bradipo: I hear that debugging firefox is no fun 15:08 -!- hwpplayer1 [~user@user/hwpplayer1] has joined #openbsd 15:08 < sibiria> snapshot == "i want you to hurt me, daddy" 15:08 < byteskeptical> sibiria: at this point it's a whole round not a single shot 15:09 < Bradipo> sibiria: Are you suggesting upgrading to a snapshot to see if it goes away? 15:09 -!- brock [~brock@209.122.210.88] has joined #openbsd 15:10 < sibiria> no i'm saying snapshot means recurring breakage 15:10 -!- seninha [~seninha@user/seninha] has joined #openbsd 15:10 < Bradipo> Oh, right, I'm not on snapshot, just 7.3. 15:11 < byteskeptical> sibiria: not in my experience though there are definitely those moments. I'm sure it can be worse on less frequently updated archs 15:11 < sibiria> maybe switch between ESR and non-ESR would solve it temporarily 15:11 < byteskeptical> sibiria: that's a good suggestion if manually compiling doesn't work I may try that 15:12 < sibiria> ESR is some paces behind the "RR" but it's generally not too bad 15:13 < xse> byteskeptical: which mirror are you using ? 15:13 < xse> things look fine here https://foo.krkrkr.org/ff.png 15:14 < byteskeptical> tried all the cdn's, mirror.aarnet.edu.au, ftp.riken.jp, ftp.hostserver.de 15:14 -!- jaj [~jaj@menial.joachim.cc] has left #openbsd [] 15:15 < byteskeptical> xse: I believe you but I can't open that right now 15:15 < xse> aw obviously --' ftp.fr.openbsd.org here 15:17 < xse> assuming relatively similar setups i don't really know what could make yours fail besides maybe a mirror issue. It's weird i recall you had the same issue a few days/weeks ago and i did not 15:19 < byteskeptical> yeah I'm not sure what is going on it was the same library in the backtrace then as well but in a different place in code. I've tried to eliminate any personal configs but even with default everything it just core dumps 15:21 < xse> yeah :/ kernel went to #1232 and firefox went from 114.0 to 114.0.1 15:22 -!- sunwind [~paradox@31.111.34.245] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:25 -!- gce108_ [~gce@user/gce108] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:27 -!- thedaemon [~thedaemon@user/thedaemon] has joined #openbsd 15:32 < cpet> When running current you know what you get into 15:32 < cpet> But with browsers getting so complex and OpenBsd doing it's own thing to do priv sep expect issues 15:33 < cpet> Running 7.3 and seeing if there's still issues may help to debug 15:33 < byteskeptical> most definitely but still need to triage otherwise just going to stay broken 15:34 < byteskeptical> well I can say #1228 was working fine 15:34 < byteskeptical> everything after I'd had issues with 15:34 -!- byteskeptical [~amnesia@user/byteskeptical] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:35 < cpet> Bye 15:35 -!- shiranaihito__ [~shiranaih@123-192-192-149.dynamic.kbronet.com.tw] has joined #openbsd 15:37 -!- memset [~memset@gateway/tor-sasl/memset] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:38 -!- shiranaihito_ [~shiranaih@2001-b011-4012-58df-b8c2-4126-ffa2-3fe4.dynamic-ip6.hinet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:38 -!- memset [~memset@gateway/tor-sasl/memset] has joined #openbsd 15:38 -!- byteskeptical [~amnesia@user/byteskeptical] has joined #openbsd 15:39 -!- jungleboogie [~jungleboo@wireguard/tunneler/jungleboogie] has joined #openbsd 15:40 -!- ripdog [~ripdog@user/ripdog] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:41 -!- hwpplayer1 [~user@user/hwpplayer1] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:42 < jungleboogie> test 15:42 < jungleboogie> r/openbsd has gone dark. I wonder if the reddit company will change anything after seeing all this happening 15:43 < jungleboogie> and thousands more, but i liked the info on r/openbsd 15:43 < jungleboogie> maybe this will bring back mailing lists 15:46 -!- sarahs [~sarah@p57936167.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 15:47 -!- piotr_ [~piotr@195191162007.dynamic-2-waw-k-1-2-0.vectranet.pl] has joined #openbsd 15:47 -!- piotr_ [~piotr@195191162007.dynamic-2-waw-k-1-2-0.vectranet.pl] has quit [Client Quit] 15:48 -!- sarahs [~sarah@p548d7057.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openbsd 15:48 < oldlaptop> the mailing lists never went anywhere, so far as I know 15:48 -!- jacobk [~quassel@209.121.168.2] has joined #openbsd 15:49 -!- piotr_ [~piotr@user/filystyn] has joined #openbsd 15:49 < dayid> I feel like 99% of r/openbsd was "please read the FAQ" (but I still followed it anyways) 15:49 -!- piotr_ is now known as Filystyn 15:50 < oldlaptop> Are you telling me the people on reddit don't always read documentation? 15:50 < dayid> never 15:50 < cpet> That was irc back in the day 15:51 < cpet> I have a question rtfm 15:51 < dayid> I'm insinuating that they don't know how to post to mailing lists or join IRC :D 15:51 < dayid> cpet: many times over the years I've had to explain to coworkers the difference between GNU/Linux(RTFM) and OpenBSD(RTFM) 15:52 < dayid> One means "fuck off, IDK" and the other means "If you look, the answer is there." 15:52 < dayid> I ran into that a lot early in tech career where people would be upset at the RTFM answer, meanwhile with my products I supported I would not ever "Please refer to docs" without (a) the doc existing and (b) usually a link to the specific doc :shrug 15:53 -!- Rynn [~rynn@216.30.158.198] has quit [Quit: ZZZzzz…] 15:53 < cpet> I like the obsd way 15:54 -!- jaj [~jaj@menial.joachim.cc] has joined #openbsd 15:54 < cpet> Partly why I moved to OpenBsd was to ability to tell it how it is 15:54 -!- ripdog [~ripdog@user/ripdog] has joined #openbsd 15:54 < cpet> Like reading a ml reply from theo basically saying fuck off and deal with it 15:55 -!- xet7 [~xet7@user/xet7] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:57 -!- renaud [~renaud@amandil.arnor.org] has quit [Server closed connection] 15:57 -!- renaud [~renaud@amandil.arnor.org] has joined #openbsd 16:01 < jungleboogie> you're right - there were many 'how do i' posts on reddit 16:01 -!- brock [~brock@209.122.210.88] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:01 < jungleboogie> there was a small subreddit i followed and daily there would be identical questions. nobody read the previous posts 16:02 < oldlaptop> dayid: Read This Fantastic Manual 16:03 -!- brock [~brock@209.122.210.88] has joined #openbsd 16:07 -!- sunwind [~paradox@31.111.34.245] has joined #openbsd 16:07 -!- sunwind [~paradox@31.111.34.245] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:10 -!- mmebsd [~metbsd@174.119.53.138] has quit [Quit: byeircer] 16:10 -!- user71 [~user71@2001:1530:1001:fd3:1e6f:65ff:fe88:557f] has joined #openbsd 16:10 -!- Rynn [~rynn@216.30.158.198] has joined #openbsd 16:11 -!- linsux [~metbsd@174.119.53.138] has joined #openbsd 16:11 -!- linsux [~metbsd@174.119.53.138] has quit [Changing host] 16:11 -!- linsux [~metbsd@user/linsux] has joined #openbsd 16:11 -!- ripdog [~ripdog@user/ripdog] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:12 -!- byteskeptical [~amnesia@user/byteskeptical] has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:13 < eea> oldlaptop: i am so stealing that. 16:14 -!- SirJitsu-work [~SirJitsu@162-231-111-175.lightspeed.livnmi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openbsd 16:15 -!- Rynn [~rynn@216.30.158.198] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 16:21 -!- sunwind [~paradox@31.111.34.245] has joined #openbsd 16:23 -!- byteskeptical [~amnesia@user/byteskeptical] has joined #openbsd 16:25 -!- shiranaihito__ [~shiranaih@123-192-192-149.dynamic.kbronet.com.tw] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:25 -!- shiranaihito_ [~shiranaih@123-192-192-149.dynamic.kbronet.com.tw] has joined #openbsd 16:25 < uwharrie> /part/part 16:25 -!- uwharrie [~uwharrie@user/uwharrie] has left #openbsd [] 16:26 -!- ripdog [~ripdog@user/ripdog] has joined #openbsd 16:26 < thedaemon> Fantastic Manual, lol nice 16:34 -!- Tekk [~Tekk@157.245.82.116] has quit [Server closed connection] 16:37 < dayid> What's wrong with Field Manual? 16:37 < dayid> people complain that they're at home or something? 16:37 * oldlaptop hadn't head that F-word before 16:41 -!- vysn [~vysn@user/vysn] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:42 -!- sunwind [~paradox@31.111.34.245] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:45 -!- vysn [~vysn@user/vysn] has joined #openbsd 16:49 -!- sunwind [~paradox@31.111.34.245] has joined #openbsd 16:53 -!- jacobk [~quassel@209.121.168.2] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:54 -!- Guest60 [~textual@2803:d100:e328:1220:1d:1ed8:a357:fc82] has joined #openbsd 16:56 -!- sunwind [~paradox@31.111.34.245] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:58 -!- rootwyrm [~c@user/rootwyrm] has joined #openbsd 17:06 -!- sandro_s [~ice303@104.168.65.6] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:06 -!- skyl4rk [~tlvb@user/tlvb] has quit [Server closed connection] 17:06 -!- skyl4rk [~tlvb@user/tlvb] has joined #openbsd 17:07 -!- sandro_s [~ice303@104.168.65.6] has joined #openbsd 17:09 -!- lavaball [~Melissa@31.204.155.215] has joined #openbsd 17:10 -!- newchair [~newchair@d-24-145-4-109.paw.cpe.atlanticbb.net] has quit [Quit: zzz] 17:11 -!- newchair [~newchair@d-24-145-4-109.paw.cpe.atlanticbb.net] has joined #openbsd 17:14 < thrig> "Humanity is surely doomed" -- you know who 17:16 -!- elunix [~doX@171.15.132.77.rev.sfr.net] has joined #openbsd 17:17 -!- sliced [~sliced@81.15.241.20] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:17 -!- jak3b [~jak3b@2601:645:8085:b6d0::5afb] has joined #openbsd 17:17 < sibiria> Dr Manhattan? 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I also don't see why you'd want to bother. 18:16 < pardis> the only case where it wouldn't be entirely pointless is in combination with FDE 18:17 < oldlaptop> It doesn't have any support itself for verifying the kernel, so far as I know, which (so far as I know) is the bootloader's job in any EFI "secure boot" arrangement 18:18 -!- peas [~peasfulto@user/PeasfulTown] has joined #openbsd 18:18 < SusanTheNerd> On linux the kernel behaves a bit diferently when under secure boot 18:18 < SusanTheNerd> like it doesn't load unsigned kernel drivers 18:18 < pardis> the OpenBSD kernel does that whether or not you have secure boot enabled 18:19 < oldlaptop> The OpenBSD kernel doesn't support loadable modules in the first place 18:19 < thrig> details, details 18:19 < oldlaptop> (it used to, but they didn't turn out to be useful) 18:19 < SusanTheNerd> oldlaptop: I didn't really playaround with the low level parts of openbsd to know that 18:20 < pardis> what is your goal here? 18:21 < SusanTheNerd> just a bit more security 18:21 -!- elunix [~doX@171.15.132.77.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:21 < cpet> Has a nifty menu to disable or enable modules though 18:21 < cpet> Then it relibks the kernel and boom 18:21 < pardis> "security" is an incredibly broad term, to the point of being useless in this context 18:22 < pardis> understanding your threat model and how to defend against it is more productive than turning on anything that has "secure" in its name 18:22 < cpet> Well if you see that more than likely it's not 18:23 < cpet> But most of the stuff I do is personal so security is t really an issue but it is 18:23 -!- elunix [~doX@171.15.132.77.rev.sfr.net] has joined #openbsd 18:24 < SusanTheNerd> pardis: I do know that, as I have been using qubes 18:24 < cpet> Can't really do it stuff as a profession as I can't sit still for long periods of time plus I get more of a kick in getting dirty with oil and working on cars than worrying that rust isn't 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I did manage to track is down to an openssl/libressl issue though I'm still at a loss as to why 19:30 < thrig> the crashes will continue until morale improves 19:30 -!- NicknameJohn [~NicknameJ@187-27-131-220.3g.claro.net.br] has joined #openbsd 19:35 -!- chumphries [~chris@216.128.129.91] has quit [Quit: leaving] 19:37 -!- chumphries [~christoff@216.128.129.91] has joined #openbsd 19:37 -!- danilogondolfo [~danilogon@37.228.206.65] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:38 -!- van [~van@mx.nocebo.space] has quit [Server closed connection] 19:38 -!- van [~van@mx.nocebo.space] has joined #openbsd 19:42 -!- zimmer [~zimmer@92.40.216.52.threembb.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:50 -!- tjdaugaard [~tjdaugaar@nat-cgn9-185-107-12-178.static.kviknet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:51 -!- h3artbl33d [~h3artbl33@user/h3artbl33d] has quit [Server closed connection] 19:51 -!- h3artbl33d [~h3artbl33@user/h3artbl33d] has joined #openbsd 19:52 -!- chumphries [~christoff@216.128.129.91] has quit [Quit: leaving] 19:53 -!- SexWarrior [~DankFrank@2a01:4b00:940e:f600:b166:b74f:119b:d775] has joined #openbsd 19:57 -!- user71 [~user71@2001:1530:1001:fd3:1e6f:65ff:fe88:557f] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:58 -!- chumphries [~christoff@216.128.129.91] has joined #openbsd 20:00 -!- imega [~coma@2001:8e0:2220:4700::a30] has joined #openbsd 20:02 -!- djhankb [~djhankb@208.113.164.68] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:03 -!- djhankb [~djhankb@208.113.164.68] has joined #openbsd 20:05 -!- jmcunx [jmc@user/zjmc] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:05 -!- jmcunx_ [jmc@user/zjmc] has joined #openbsd 20:06 -!- grobi [~grobi@user/grobi] has joined #openbsd 20:06 < byteskeptical> https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-bugs&m=168659284227736&w=2 20:06 -!- tjdaugaard [~tjdaugaar@nat-cgn9-185-107-12-178.static.kviknet.net] has joined #openbsd 20:07 -!- ikarso [uid475540@id-475540.tinside.irccloud.com] has joined #openbsd 20:13 -!- chumphries [~christoff@216.128.129.91] has quit [Quit: leaving] 20:13 -!- chumphries [~christoff@66.135.26.104] has joined #openbsd 20:21 -!- shiranaihito_ [~shiranaih@123-192-192-149.dynamic.kbronet.com.tw] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 20:22 -!- feto_bastardo [~feto_bast@user/feto-bastardo/x-6336908] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:27 < Filystyn> am I safe on openbsd with newlines in file names 20:27 < Filystyn> i cought file like that today, and i felt.. 20:28 -!- shored [~shored@user/shored] has quit [Server closed connection] 20:28 -!- feto_bastardo [~feto_bast@user/feto-bastardo/x-6336908] has joined #openbsd 20:28 < Filystyn> violated 20:28 < thrig> depends on how well written your tools are. prudence would be to remove such chars 20:28 -!- shored [~shored@user/shored] has joined #openbsd 20:29 < Filystyn> yeah actualy i think one of my program caused that 20:29 < Filystyn> it was discovered by a mistake using find . | sort 20:30 < Filystyn> I was looking for files that did not exist. Trying to figure out where are they hiding 20:30 < pardis> you were so preoccupied with whether you could, you didn't stop to think if you should 20:31 < phy1729> find has -print0 and sort has -z for just this reason 20:32 -!- Bradipo [~amb@50-77-44-29-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:38 < sarthalion> Maaseuduks 20:47 -!- grobi [~grobi@user/grobi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:56 -!- hwpplayer1 [~user@user/hwpplayer1] has joined #openbsd 20:56 -!- prahou [~who@user/prahou] has quit [Quit: leaving] 20:59 -!- seninha [~seninha@user/seninha] has joined #openbsd 20:59 -!- megaTherion [~therion@unix.io] has quit [Server closed connection] 20:59 -!- megaTherion [~therion@unix.io] has joined #openbsd 21:00 -!- prahou [~who@freeshell.de] has joined #openbsd 21:01 -!- prahou [~who@freeshell.de] has quit [Changing host] 21:01 -!- prahou [~who@user/prahou] has joined #openbsd 21:01 -!- qqq [~qqq@92.43.167.61] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:02 -!- ipetruk [~user@user/ipetruk] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in] 21:06 -!- gman999 [~GMan999@user/gman999] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 3.8] 21:06 -!- Filystyn [~piotr@user/filystyn] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 21:08 -!- lavaball [~Melissa@31.204.155.215] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:08 -!- manu1 [~p4x639@2001:871:250:615:d004:bcf8:798f:4440] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 3.8] 21:13 < zelest> Heh, quite happy with the result though.. Chromium in Arch Linux in vmd(8), on -current .. https://i.imgur.com/oW3fz7C.png :D 21:14 < thrig> now do windows xp under qemu 21:14 < zelest> And I think the real bottleneck here is my apu2... 21:14 < zelest> Haha 21:16 -!- ipetruk [~user@user/ipetruk] has joined #openbsd 21:19 -!- grobi [~grobi@user/grobi] has joined #openbsd 21:22 -!- byteskeptical [~amnesia@user/byteskeptical] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 21:27 -!- hwpplayer1 [~user@user/hwpplayer1] has quit [Quit: sleep] 21:28 < quinq> zelest, where tha from? 21:29 < brocashelm> just bought a used dell latitude laptop. has anyone tried openbsd on those? anything to keep an eye out on? 21:29 -!- Bradipo [~amb@50-77-44-29-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #openbsd 21:29 < zelest> quinq, uhm? 21:29 < thrig> check for firmware updates 21:29 < zelest> quinq, the bandwidth test? 21:29 < quinq> yeah 21:30 < zelest> https://www.bredbandskollen.se/en/ 21:30 < quinq> thanks :) 21:30 < zelest> no idea how well it behaves outside of Sweden though :) 21:31 < zelest> or well, how accurate the numbers are 21:31 < quinq> “Your result is bad” :'( 21:31 < zelest> :D 21:32 -!- oldpcuser_ [~oldpcuser@user/oldpcuser] has joined #openbsd 21:34 -!- oldpcuser_ [~oldpcuser@user/oldpcuser] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 21:34 -!- oldpcuser [~oldpcuser@user/oldpcuser] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:34 -!- oldpcuser_ [~oldpcuser@user/oldpcuser] has joined #openbsd 21:41 -!- drathir_tor [~drathir@wireguard/tunneler/drathir] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:41 -!- cyr4x3 [~cyr4x3@67.218.248.202] has joined #openbsd 21:42 -!- rahl- [rahl@otaku.sdf.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:42 -!- krzych [krzych@nroot.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:42 -!- rcf [rcf@iceland.sdf.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 21:42 -!- krzych [krzych@nroot.pl] has joined #openbsd 21:43 -!- cyr4x3 [~cyr4x3@67.218.248.202] has quit [Client Quit] 21:45 -!- foul_owl [~kerry@71.212.137.212] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 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