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00:05 < SamuelMarks> hi
00:05 < SamuelMarks> To use this function, do I need to define `_BSD_SOURCE`? - https://man.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=strnstr&sektion=3
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00:20 < phy1729> That's a freebsd man page. You'd have to ask them
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00:24 < SamuelMarks> phy1729 - Yeah but I'm having fun #if defined(__FreeBSD__) || defined(__NetBSD__) || defined(__OpenBSD__) ||     \ defined(__bsdi__) || defined(__DragonFly__) || defined(BSD)
00:24 < SamuelMarks> What do I need to support OpenBSD? - Because I'm getting ld: error: undefined symbol: strnstr
00:25 < xtile> SamuelMarks:  http://man.openbsd.org/strnstr Do you think OpenBSD has strnstr()?
00:26 < SamuelMarks> xtile - Oh gucci then I'll provide my own impl for OpenBSD, hold up
00:26 < SamuelMarks> perfect
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00:28 < SamuelMarks> Now I support OpenBSD - https://github.com/offscale/c89stringutils/commit/a9564ebdade0de40a733a1d234af18732a87e97b#diff-1cc900b421ffcd1848cbd0d416d8a9745c515baf606aefbaea497218da0a1a37R66
00:31 < xtile> I think it'd be better to just drop support for any environment that doesn't have C99, personally.
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00:35 < SamuelMarks> xtile - that's a lot of lost targets
00:35 < SamuelMarks> Whereas with my approach you can target MS-DOS, SunOS, OpenBSD, Windows, &etc.
00:36 < xtile> Solaris and OpenBSD support C99, and the other OSes don't matter.
00:36 < SamuelMarks> And support every programming language through FFI or other techniques
00:37 < SamuelMarks> For example, the most popular Python FFI layer only support C89
00:38 < xtile> aha
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01:46 < acidfoo> is there a way to start services like relayd, httpd directly in a specific rdomain ? thanks
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01:50 < phy1729> rcctl set httpd rtable 2
01:50 < acidfoo> oh nice, thanks
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04:07 < ninjin> Adding an external encrypted drive and looking to have it unlocked and mounted at boot. Not seeing a way to do it with fstab only, so should I add the unlock/mount sequence to rc.local?
04:07 < ninjin> s/external/additional/
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04:39 < cpet> ninjin: can always copy over the key to a usb disk and use the -k for keydist and use that to auto decrypt drive, or somethign similar 
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04:51 < ninjin> cpet: Thanks, that is a good suggestion. I tend to rely on passphrases though for my laptop, so for now I will just write a few lines of shell in rc.local until I stumble upon another solution. It is not an ugly solution after all, just wondered if I had missed something in the documentation.
04:51 < cpet> I dont have anything on my machine that requires disk encryption
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05:28 < IcePic> ninjin: sounds hard to "rely on passphrases" and at the same time wanting it to boot unattended, that just means the secret needs to be stored in a 100% usable form somewhere, and takes away some (but not all!) the gains from encrypting your drive
05:31 < ninjin> IcePic: Booting unattended is not a requirement though (sorry if it seemed like I implied it) on my part as it is my laptop. I see your point though.
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05:38 < IcePic> yeah, that was an assumption I made from "in fstab"
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05:51 < emmanuelux> hi, in /etc/hostname.wg0 : "!route -T30 add -inet default 192.168.30.2" does work on one side (vps) and does not work on my local side : route command seems not executed at all, no error message, how to verify that
05:58 < IcePic> perhaps it fails if routing domain 30 does not exist at this point?
05:58 < emmanuelux> i try a sleep ?
05:58 < emmanuelux> rdomain 30 does exist
05:59 < cpet> IcePic: I have a password storage app I use, and it gets to be a pain to have to install the app on each device then copy and paste it
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06:03 < emmanuelux> it is a pb of path 
06:05 < cpet> what does ifconfig say regarding rdomain 30
06:05 < emmanuelux> wg0: flags=80c3<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,NOARP,MULTICAST> rdomain 30 mtu 1420,  the link is OK, it is just the route command, i need to manually type it
06:06 < emmanuelux> sbin commands are not read by !.....
06:06 < emmanuelux> on the vps it is ok
06:07 < emmanuelux> bin commands are ok
06:07 < IcePic> good idea to always use full path in scripts, crontabs and hostname files
06:07 < cpet> im guessing you want to isolate the two?
06:07 < cpet> somethign fishy with pf ?
06:08 < emmanuelux> /sbin/route does not work in hostname.wg0
06:08 < cpet> sure it does
06:08 < emmanuelux> it is a pb with my config
06:08 < emmanuelux> i promess it does not
06:08 < emmanuelux> !echo command => ok
06:08 < emmanuelux> cause it is in /bin
06:09 < cpet> # This is an example comment line.
06:09 < cpet>       inet6 alias fec0::1 64
06:09 < cpet>       inet6 alias fec0::2 64 anycast
06:09 < cpet>       !route add 65.65.65.65 10.0.1.13
06:09 < cpet>       up
06:09 < emmanuelux> but sbin is blacklist dont know why
06:09 < cpet> you dont need the path
06:09 < emmanuelux> I know it is working for you cause it is working on my vps
06:10 < emmanuelux> but my config is brokien on local side
06:11 < cpet> misconfigured isnt broken
06:11 < emmanuelux> yes if you want
06:12 < cpet> is this a local system, sitting in a DC ?
06:13 < IcePic> if echo works, then running "echo $PATH > /root/my-path.txt" could shine a light on why route doesn't work, and if your setup mistakenly lacks /sbin in the PATH environment var
06:14 < emmanuelux> /sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin
06:14 < emmanuelux> seems ok
06:14 < IcePic> I meant from /etc/hostname.wg0
06:14 < IcePic> during boot.
06:16 < cpet> slaps https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/lnezDmmD/slaps
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06:25 < emmanuelux> it is reworking after changing place of up; very strange
06:26 < emmanuelux> and now if replace up as before, it is working too
06:26 < emmanuelux> there is a bug somewhere
06:26 < IcePic> perhaps you managed to get some unprintable char in there that screwed up the parsing
06:27 < emmanuelux> possible
06:27 < emmanuelux> file is in utf-8
06:28 < IcePic> when I am on the work mac, the option-7 thing for pipe often makes me type an option-space after the pipe which screws up the command the pipe feeds into. Some kind of non-whitespace "blank" character.
06:30 < quinq> Most likely unsecable space
06:30 < emmanuelux> i see
06:31 < emmanuelux> may be netstart script could display errors 
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06:33 < IcePic> dmesg -s should be a decent place to see them
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06:34 < emmanuelux> thx for the time again
06:35 < quinq> eat vegetables, enjoy bsd
06:35 < IcePic> not necessarily in that order
06:35 < byteskeptical> hugo
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06:36 < byteskeptical> sry wrong window
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06:37 < quinq> No problem, I was about to go anyway
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06:38 < cpet> wilson !
06:40 < byteskeptical> strapi
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07:56 < brocashelm> print screen key is not recognized by openbsd. is this normal, and is there a way to fix this?
07:57 < Filystyn> starts with xev
07:57 < Filystyn> meaby it's broken
07:58 < Filystyn> start*
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07:59 < brocashelm> while searching, this was the only url that was relevant to my issue (can't access because of the reddit api shit): https://old.reddit.com/r/openbsd/comments/qkbkta/keyboard_event_capturing_in_a_lower_level_than
07:59 < brocashelm> i will check with xev
08:02 < bob_x2> what is xev ?
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08:02 < bob_x2> tried to google and only X server links are relevant
08:04 < lts> https://man.openbsd.org/xev
08:04 < brocashelm> still no dice; did not detect printscreen key
08:05 < brocashelm> i had to map xfce4-screenshooter with ctrl+alt+p for now
08:05 < lts> Try to isolate the problem by seeing does the button work in another machine, or with another OS. Might just be physically broken
08:06 < ivdsangen> its the same here, no X event on print screen
08:06 < brocashelm> yes, it definitely does work on another machine/os (like linux)
08:06 < brocashelm> tested with three different usb keyboards
08:07 < lts> Any other keys that xev does not recognize?
08:08 < lts> That sounds like confirmed to be an OpenBSD issue, but more information helps finding the root cause
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08:10 < brocashelm> there might have been another key, but printscreen for sure is not being detected by openbsd
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08:11 < ivdsangen> i never noticed this, i use this machine daily and other keys just work as far as i know
08:13 < brocashelm> i wonder, would remapping the key possibly help? found this just now: https://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq7.html
08:13 < brocashelm> if i could do that for printscreen key, that would work
08:14 < brocashelm> or maybe remap to a keybind
08:14 < lts> If xev does not detect it, chances of remapping it are not great
08:16 < brocashelm> still, i wonder why it isn't picked up? security thing or what?
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10:13 < quinq> Hummm, I'm releasing a VPS with OpenBSD on it
10:13 < quinq> Would you recommend destroying data there, and a method for doing it?
10:14 < quinq> I suppose that they'd have backups anyway…
10:14 < quinq> (fs is unencrypted)
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10:46 < lts> Assuming the VPS is on a flash disk, your chances of really deleting the data are slim. You can basically delete the VPS and make sure you are not keeping any manual backups of it in the VPS system, and the rest should rotate out from provider's possible backups in some time
10:46 < lts> Next time indeed consider encrypting the disks if you are worried about this
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11:14 < IcePic> quinq: best you could do is boot bsd.rd, dd crap over the drive and hope the hoster doesn't dig into your backups
11:14 < IcePic> as lts said, there are options one could have used before, but if you wrote lots of unencrypted data that they have backups of, then you are possibly out of luck
11:14 < quinq> Yeah, just did (kind of) that :)
11:15 < quinq> lts, indeed, wasn't really worried actually, I just thought of it now that I want to release it jeej
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12:59 < Filystyn> in error logs
13:00 < Filystyn> Full sentances with always Capitla latter on start and dot at end ?
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13:01 < sibiria> there's no general rule. you format your messages as you like
13:03 < Filystyn> sure but this was bugging me for years
13:03 < Filystyn> what's better
13:04 < Filystyn> ogh sorry
13:04 < Filystyn> wrong channnel
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15:39 < bp99[m]> !reconnect
15:40 < thrig> didn't work
15:40 < quinq> Unless it was very fast
15:41 < bp99[m]> hah, sorry about that :)
15:41 < pardis> or very slow
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22:58 < tercaL> Started setting postfix on OpenBSD, reading its manuals.. And just read a note there -> "Note: on OpenBSD systems specify dev:/dev/arandom when dev:/dev/urandom gives timeout errors." but it seems /dev/arandom is missing, on OpenBSD 7.3 - any clue on this?
22:59 < oldlaptop> All of the /dev/foorandoms are identical on modern OpenBSD
23:00 < oldlaptop> (which apparently means "both of them" nowadays - I could have sword there was an arandom until recently)
23:00 < oldlaptop> see https://man.openbsd.org/man4/random.4 - it certainly shouldn't "give timeout errors"
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23:23 < natewrench> hello I heard Hyperbola is making a hard fork of openbsd
23:25 < phy1729> You'd have to ask them
23:27 < Lucas6023> oldlaptop: I think the arandom is pretty old
23:28 < Lucas6023> http://man.openbsd.org/OpenBSD-6.2/arandom exists, 6.3 doesn't
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