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already-running proxy; however, i'm not sure how to keep my main server running and have a proxy running at the optional path 03:31 -!- Xenguy [~Xenguy@user/xenguy] has joined #openbsd 03:32 < jordanreger> has anyone tried this? 03:32 -!- fstd_ [~fstd@xdsl-78-34-137-60.nc.de] has joined #openbsd 03:33 < jordanreger> it (sort of) works on a fresh install without httpd running, which is why i'm confused lol 03:35 -!- fstd [~fstd@xdsl-87-79-225-234.nc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:35 -!- fstd_ is now known as fstd 03:42 -!- jordanreger [~jordanreg@sourcehut/user/jordanreger] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:46 < byteskeptical> you can have httpd listen on a different port or bind it to a specific interface if you have more than one 03:46 < byteskeptical> though it's probably easier to do this with snac2 itself 03:46 -!- mikeputnam [~mikeputna@wilug/mikeputnam] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:47 < byteskeptical> then use something like relayd to send 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brocashelm: there is no command one should have to run to make usb input devices to register 07:04 -!- oldpcuser [~oldpcuser@user/oldpcuser] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:04 -!- divansantana [~user@192.145.132.53] has joined #openbsd 07:06 -!- oldpcuser [~oldpcuser@user/oldpcuser] has joined #openbsd 07:09 < kodcode> Can I find out how much diskspace a package with its dependencies needs before installing it? 07:10 < kodcode> I would like to compare two programs. 07:10 < mischief> not without some coding, but if you're thinking about disk space it's time to buy a bigger computer 07:11 < kodcode> mischief: some of us enjoy installing OpenBSD on embedded devices :) 07:11 -!- Filystyn [~piotr@195191162074.dynamic-2-waw-k-1-2-0.vectranet.pl] has joined #openbsd 07:11 -!- Filystyn [~piotr@195191162074.dynamic-2-waw-k-1-2-0.vectranet.pl] has quit [Client Quit] 07:11 -!- feriman [~feriman@188.163.114.49] has joined #openbsd 07:11 -!- struchu [~struchu@62.87.192.114] has left 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compare? 07:20 -!- bilegeek [~bilegeek@2600:1008:b047:b90f:5137:a48c:4fab:4914] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:21 -!- Trigon [~reuben@2601:680:8000:2eb2::ef3] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 07:22 < kodcode> mischief: because I want to use the eemc with 16GB instead of an SD card. You can't tell me buy a car if I want to ride a bicycle :) 07:22 < kodcode> IcePic: guess so, was looking for something quicker and easier. 07:23 -!- theruran [uid11305@id-11305.hampstead.irccloud.com] has quit [Server closed connection] 07:24 -!- theruran [uid11305@id-11305.hampstead.irccloud.com] has joined #openbsd 07:27 < mischief> kodcode: well, no bicycle insurance for you unfortunately 07:27 < mischief> i moved my openbsd router with 32gb emmc to 120gb sata disk because i needed more space. 07:28 < IcePic> 120G drives sounds like a lifetime ago 07:28 < mischief> it was a free promotion with some other thing i bought, i forget what 07:28 < renaud> 120gb for a router seems quite enough :) 07:29 < renaud> unless you log every packet 07:30 -!- Ellenor is now known as Reinhilde 07:31 < CosmicDJ> mischief: my openbsd router is using ~ 2GB disk space, why would you need over 100 GB? 07:31 < mischief> never said i needed it 07:32 < mischief> i needed *more* than a 32gb :) 07:35 -!- AKEmily [~AlaskanEm@user/alaskanemily] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:37 -!- MentalExcuse [~MentalExc@45.138.55.174] has quit [Server closed connection] 07:37 < mischief> my system isn't using much more than about 4g, mostly in pkgs 07:37 < mischief> tbh the emmc was just slow 07:37 -!- MentalExcuse [~MentalExc@45.138.55.174] has joined #openbsd 07:39 -!- adip [~adip@c145-69.icpnet.pl] has joined #openbsd 07:39 < CosmicDJ> too slow for routing IP pkts? 07:41 < mischief> not that, just booting and doing io interactively 07:41 < mischief> plus now i have a vm running on it too 07:42 -!- Leonarbro [~Leo@user/leonarbro] has quit [Quit: Bye] 07:42 < mischief> you perhaps underestimate how slow these mmc modules are :) 07:43 -!- srfsh [~srfsh@user/srfsh] has joined #openbsd 07:45 -!- b50d [~b50d@62.96.54.30] has joined #openbsd 07:48 -!- nav [~van@mx.nocebo.space] has quit [Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by Nav_!~Nav@181.14.187.81.in-addr.arpa))] 07:48 -!- van [~van@mx.nocebo.space] has joined #openbsd 07:55 -!- adip [~adip@c145-69.icpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:56 -!- Teebeutel [~Teebeutel@aitne.uberspace.de] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in] 07:57 -!- Teebeutel [~Teebeutel@aitne.uberspace.de] has joined #openbsd 07:57 -!- adip [~adip@c145-69.icpnet.pl] has joined #openbsd 07:57 -!- danilogondolfo [~danilogon@37.228.206.65] has joined #openbsd 07:58 -!- lavaball [~Melissa@31.204.155.215] has joined #openbsd 08:02 -!- adip [~adip@c145-69.icpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:02 -!- terminalpusher [~terminalp@2a01:586:179b:1:7bd6:c1df:325b:26d4] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:03 -!- xtile [~terrain@c-24-56-224-169.customer.broadstripe.net] has quit [Quit: sleep] 08:03 -!- terminalpusher [~terminalp@2a01:586:179b:1:7bd6:c1df:325b:26d4] has joined #openbsd 08:19 -!- jfsimon1981_b [~jfsimon19@lfbn-lyo-1-1344-171.w86-207.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openbsd 08:21 -!- lpn-cls [~lpn-cls@user/lpn-cls] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:23 -!- sinvet [~sinvet@user/sinvet] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:42 < renaud> is there anyone using seafile here? 08:42 < renaud> as a server 08:43 < renaud> are the openbsd packages only for the client? 08:48 < brocashelm> i am trying to compile qjoypad (https://github.com/panzi/qjoypad) and i get this error after running ->cmake .. -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Release: https://dpaste.org/uRVyh 08:49 < brocashelm> the error message is asking me where to specify Qt5Widgets path; how would i be able to configure this for openbsd? 08:53 < Filystyn> coomon problem with qt 08:54 -!- MajorBiscuit [~MajorBisc@2001:1c00:31c:8400:f184:4168:559b:d91b] has joined #openbsd 08:54 -!- terminalpusher [~terminalp@2a01:586:179b:1:7bd6:c1df:325b:26d4] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:54 -!- terminalpusher [~terminalp@2a01:586:179b:1:7bd6:c1df:325b:26d4] has joined #openbsd 08:56 < Filystyn> you need to pass to cmkae qt cmake path or something it was in qt pkginfo but i don't remember now how to find it just a sec... 08:58 -!- thyssentishman [~thyssenti@user/thyssentishman] has joined #openbsd 08:59 < thyssentishman> Hi. Can anyone please help me find out why I can't install go 08:59 < thyssentishman> I've tried `doas pkg_add go` and I get 'Can'f find go' 09:00 < thyssentishman> Tried also with version number and other variations and same result 09:00 -!- sinvet [~sinvet@user/sinvet] has joined #openbsd 09:01 < Filystyn> brocashel you are looking probably for /usr/local/lib/qt5/cmake 09:01 < thyssentishman> I'm on 7.3-current btw 09:01 < thyssentishman> And when trying to install from ports the compilation fails 09:02 < IcePic> there is no go-xxx in snapshots/packages/amd64 09:02 < thyssentishman> Could it be that it wasn't packaged for the last snapshot cause the compilation fails? 09:02 < Filystyn> also look at pkg_info qt5 09:02 < IcePic> probably, yes 09:02 < IcePic> from ports@ 09:02 < IcePic> lang/go 09:02 < IcePic> > is failing with various errors each time. I'm not sure it's a XEN bug 09:02 < IcePic> > though, maybe an issue with recent IBT? 09:02 < IcePic> Yes, it's the IBT diff in snaps breaking the bootstrapping process. 09:05 < thyssentishman> IcePic: thank you. just saw the mail from ports@ 09:10 < brocashelm> filystyn: i'll take a look 09:15 -!- lpn-cls [~lpn-cls@user/lpn-cls] has joined #openbsd 09:19 -!- lpn-cls [~lpn-cls@user/lpn-cls] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:21 < brocashelm> filystyn: now stuck at the first make command: https://dpaste.org/kar29 09:21 < brocashelm> error: /qjoypad/src/joypadw.h:8:10: fatal error: 'linux/joystick.h' file not found 09:22 < IcePic> nproc is not a command on obsd, needs replacing with sysctl kern.numcpus or something like that 09:22 < IcePic> or just 1 09:23 -!- memset [~memset@gateway/tor-sasl/memset] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:23 < IcePic> sorry, "hw.ncpuonline" 09:23 < brocashelm> ah, ok 09:23 -!- memset [~memset@gateway/tor-sasl/memset] has joined #openbsd 09:23 -!- zimmer [~zimmer@92.40.189.174.threembb.co.uk] has joined #openbsd 09:24 < brocashelm> make 'sysctl hw.cpuonline'? 09:25 < IcePic> I would replace `nproc` with $(sysctl hw.ncpuonline|cut -f2 -d=) 09:26 < brocashelm> make $(sysctl hw.ncpuonline|cut -f2 -d=) ? 09:27 < brocashelm> without the ` signs? 09:28 < mischief> just run make -j or 1 09:29 -!- pony [sid524992@smol/hors] has quit [Server closed connection] 09:29 -!- pony [sid524992@smol/hors] has joined #openbsd 09:30 < mischief> but considering that source code is trying to find linux joystick.h, you might not have much... joy :-) 09:31 < brocashelm> yeah, that's what's got me stumped at the moment 09:32 -!- grobi [~grobi@user/grobi] has joined #openbsd 09:32 < brocashelm> so, make -j 1 ? i will try that, too 09:32 < brocashelm> i need a way to map my gamepads to key presses (i don't like doing it in-game out of convenience) 09:33 < brocashelm> i know sdl-jstest exists, but it's a bit buggy to work with IME 09:33 < brocashelm> and not sure what to do with qt5gamepad 09:35 -!- jacobk [~quassel@209.124.138.80] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:36 -!- Xeroine [~Xeroine@user/xeroine] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:37 -!- thyssentishman [~thyssenti@user/thyssentishman] has quit [Quit: Client closed] 09:38 -!- lumidify [~lumidify@user/lumidify] has quit [Server closed connection] 09:38 -!- srfsh [~srfsh@user/srfsh] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:38 -!- lumidify [~lumidify@user/lumidify] has joined #openbsd 09:39 < IcePic> brocashelm: If you are going to stumble upon a lot of things to fix, then parallel perf of make might not be the top priority, but rather stuff like "do I even have a joystick.h to begin with?" 09:40 -!- Xeroine [~Xeroine@user/xeroine] has joined #openbsd 09:44 -!- srfsh [~srfsh@user/srfsh] has joined #openbsd 09:44 < mischief> you will probably find that the gaming world is not much explored on openbsd and either some hacking or cowing might need to happen 09:50 -!- sirtenirsetierst [b08568a727@xmpp.nuegia.net] has quit [Server closed connection] 09:51 -!- Xylemon [~Xylemon@75.142.154.41] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:53 -!- terminalpusher [~terminalp@2a01:586:179b:1:7bd6:c1df:325b:26d4] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:54 -!- terminalpusher [~terminalp@2a01:586:179b:1:7bd6:c1df:325b:26d4] has joined #openbsd 09:55 -!- MajorBiscuit [~MajorBisc@2001:1c00:31c:8400:f184:4168:559b:d91b] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 09:57 -!- MajorBiscuit [~MajorBisc@c-001-031-045.client.tudelft.eduvpn.nl] has joined #openbsd 09:57 -!- Xylemon [~Xylemon@075-142-154-041.res.spectrum.com] has joined #openbsd 09:58 -!- zimmer [~zimmer@92.40.189.174.threembb.co.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:01 < brocashelm> yeah, i am trying to set up a stable desktop with some retro/libre games thrown in for entertainment without being completely reliant on linux 10:07 -!- RhDoc [~Thunderbi@81-223-196-34.static.upcbusiness.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:07 -!- adip [~adip@95.108.60.39] has joined #openbsd 10:12 -!- grobi [~grobi@user/grobi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:13 -!- Jaywalker [~Jaywalker@209.33.126.194] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:15 -!- grobi [~grobi@user/grobi] has joined #openbsd 10:15 -!- Jaywalker [~Jaywalker@209.33.126.194] has joined #openbsd 10:18 -!- tertullian [~sonne@185.17.184.1] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:20 -!- nyah [~nyah@york-06-b2-v4wan-167893-cust646.vm25.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openbsd 10:23 -!- jjf [~user@user/jjf] has left #openbsd [ERC 5.4 (IRC client for GNU Emacs 28.2)] 10:23 -!- RhDoc [~Thunderbi@81-223-196-34.static.upcbusiness.at] has joined #openbsd 10:28 < mischief> going to take some effort. linux works for me on the desktop, but if you want to use openbsd more power to you. 10:29 -!- mrksj [~mrksj@p4ffafedf.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openbsd 10:30 < lts> It should not need that much more power 10:30 < mischief> he's trying to play video games, his power level will need to be over 9000 10:31 < renaud> welcome to our new porter of wine 10:31 -!- Jaywalker [~Jaywalker@209.33.126.194] has quit [Quit: bye] 10:36 -!- mrksj [~mrksj@p4ffafedf.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:36 < brocashelm> lol 10:37 < brocashelm> i use debian/devuan btw 10:37 -!- mrksj [~mrksj@p4ffafedf.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openbsd 10:37 -!- memset [~memset@gateway/tor-sasl/memset] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:37 -!- memset [~memset@gateway/tor-sasl/memset] has joined #openbsd 10:38 -!- foul_owl [~kerry@71.212.137.212] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:38 < mrksj> in the context of device drivers can someone shortly point out the differences between the detach routine and calling activate with DVACT_POWERDOWN? are they the same from a functional point of view? 10:39 -!- LambdaComplex [~adam@wireguard/tunneler/lambdacomplex] has quit [Server closed connection] 10:39 -!- vysn [~vysn@user/vysn] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:40 -!- LambdaComplex [~adam@wireguard/tunneler/lambdacomplex] has joined #openbsd 10:40 < brocashelm> re: gaming on openbsd: all that matters is if i can run supertuxkart at 60 fps on my ancient radeon gpu 10:41 < brocashelm> as far as desktops go, i'm noticing the xfce on 7.3-current is working a lot better; power manager no longer segfaults, and xfwm4's compositor does not flicker the ui anymore 10:42 < mischief> play a real game 10:43 < mischief> ssh nethack@alt.org 10:44 -!- djhankb [~djhankb@208.113.164.68] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:44 -!- djhankb [~djhankb@208.113.164.68] has joined #openbsd 10:45 -!- seninha [~seninha@user/seninha] has joined #openbsd 10:45 -!- vysn [~vysn@user/vysn] has joined #openbsd 10:46 -!- vysn [~vysn@user/vysn] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:48 -!- vysn [~vysn@user/vysn] has joined #openbsd 10:52 -!- wochang [~wochang@wochang.duckdns.org] has quit [Server closed connection] 10:52 -!- wochang [~wochang@wochang.duckdns.org] has joined #openbsd 10:52 -!- foul_owl [~kerry@45.143.82.39] has joined #openbsd 10:55 -!- arcticdev [~arcticdev@77.222.166.50] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:55 -!- arcticdev [~arcticdev@77.222.166.50] has joined #openbsd 11:02 -!- schillingklaus [~schilling@ip2504e22a.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has joined #openbsd 11:03 -!- adip [~adip@95.108.60.39] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:04 -!- adip [~adip@dhcp95-108-60-39.eaw.com.pl] has joined #openbsd 11:06 -!- bob_x2 [~bob_x@user/bob-x1/x-8934932] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:07 -!- bob_x2 [~bob_x@user/bob-x1/x-8934932] has joined #openbsd 11:11 -!- memset [~memset@gateway/tor-sasl/memset] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:12 -!- memset [~memset@gateway/tor-sasl/memset] has joined #openbsd 11:15 -!- tozhu [~tozhu@117.139.163.129] has quit [Quit: tozhu] 11:20 -!- terminalpusher [~terminalp@2a01:586:179b:1:7bd6:c1df:325b:26d4] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:20 -!- terminalpusher [~terminalp@2a01:586:179b:1:7bd6:c1df:325b:26d4] has joined #openbsd 11:29 -!- terminalpusher [~terminalp@2a01:586:179b:1:7bd6:c1df:325b:26d4] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:30 -!- byteskeptical [~amnesia@user/byteskeptical] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 11:30 -!- terminalpusher [~terminalp@2a01:586:179b:1:7bd6:c1df:325b:26d4] has joined #openbsd 11:36 -!- kn [~kn@2001:1438:2012:c002:716:e50c:8c03:e77] has joined #openbsd 11:36 -!- kn [~kn@2001:1438:2012:c002:716:e50c:8c03:e77] has quit [Client Quit] 11:36 -!- arcticdev [~arcticdev@77.222.166.50] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:36 -!- arcticdev [~arcticdev@77.222.166.50] has joined #openbsd 11:38 -!- Mete- [~quassel@2804:24c:f7a1:8e70:3e8f:9335:22b1:4500] has quit [Quit: https://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.] 11:39 -!- Mete- [~quassel@2804:24c:f7a1:8e70:3e8f:9335:22b1:4500] has joined #openbsd 11:40 -!- kn [~kn@2001:1438:2012:c002:716:e50c:8c03:e77] has joined #openbsd 11:41 -!- kn [~kn@2001:1438:2012:c002:716:e50c:8c03:e77] has quit [Client Quit] 11:42 -!- terminalpusher [~terminalp@2a01:586:179b:1:7bd6:c1df:325b:26d4] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:43 -!- kn [~kn@2001:1438:2012:c002:716:e50c:8c03:e77] has joined #openbsd 11:43 -!- kn [~kn@2001:1438:2012:c002:716:e50c:8c03:e77] has quit [Client Quit] 11:44 -!- kn [~kn@2001:1438:2012:c002:716:e50c:8c03:e77] has joined #openbsd 11:46 -!- Leonarbro [~Leo@user/leonarbro] has joined #openbsd 11:49 -!- tozhu [~tozhu@171.88.173.55] has joined #openbsd 11:49 -!- tozhu [~tozhu@171.88.173.55] has quit [Client Quit] 11:49 -!- RhDoc [~Thunderbi@81-223-196-34.static.upcbusiness.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:52 < tercaL> FreeBSD has "security/ca_root_nss" package, containing latest CA bundles. Where's that file in OpenBSD/is there any such package in OpenBSD? 11:54 -!- terminalpusher [~terminalp@2a01:586:179b:1:f6cb:2979:61db:57d2] has joined #openbsd 11:55 -!- tjdaugaard [~tjdaugaar@nat-cgn9-185-107-12-178.static.kviknet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:55 -!- memset [~memset@gateway/tor-sasl/memset] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:56 < lts> /etc/ssl/cert.pem 11:56 -!- memset [~memset@gateway/tor-sasl/memset] has joined #openbsd 11:57 -!- grobi [~grobi@user/grobi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:57 < IcePic> tercaL: the CA root list tls mentioned comes with the OS upgrades, and not as a separate package 12:00 -!- grobi [~grobi@user/grobi] has joined #openbsd 12:03 -!- jkc [~jkc@almalinux/security/jkc] has joined #openbsd 12:05 -!- bob_x2 [~bob_x@user/bob-x1/x-8934932] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:05 -!- bob_x2 [~bob_x@user/bob-x1/x-8934932] has joined #openbsd 12:08 -!- LW [~LW@i5E866B3B.versanet.de] has joined #openbsd 12:09 -!- thedaemon_ [~thedaemon@209.170.225.138] has joined #openbsd 12:09 -!- thedaemon_ [~thedaemon@209.170.225.138] has quit [Client Quit] 12:10 -!- thedaemon_atwork [~thedaemon@user/thedaemon] has joined #openbsd 12:14 -!- zimmer [~zimmer@92.40.191.199.threembb.co.uk] has joined #openbsd 12:15 < tercaL> Thanks lts and IcePic, great info! I need it for Postfix, smtpd_tls_CAfile and smtp_tls_CAfile directives, hopefully that's the right file/path. 12:16 -!- schillingklaus [~schilling@ip2504e22a.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has quit [Quit: schillingklaus] 12:16 < zelest> A mailserver verifying the TLS certs? That's a first :D 12:18 < lts> tercaL: it is that one yes 12:19 < tercaL> zelest: I set; smtpd_tls_ask_ccert = yes 12:20 < tercaL> Reason; before, in my log files, I was getting; postfix/smtpd[40373]: Anonymous TLS connection established from/(and to) mail-yb1-f169.google.com[209.85.219.169].... 12:20 < tercaL> now it's; "Trusted TLS connection established from (and to) mail-yw1-f177.google.com.." 12:20 < zelest> Fair enough :) 12:20 -!- grobi [~grobi@user/grobi] has quit [Quit: baby i'm bored ♞▀▄▀▄♝▀] 12:20 < zelest> But there's plenty of servers out there with self-signed certs too 12:20 < tercaL> I guess it's not in a "force-to" mode, so it looks fine with any other mail servers not offering. 12:21 < tercaL> zelest: I will definitely try this one, setting one right now with self-signed certs, to test. But as I said, it should go ahead and receive/send e-mail. Let's see. 12:22 < tercaL> Or anyone kiiindly got a mail server with self-signed one? We could test that too. 12:22 < tercaL> And indeed, fair enough - completely agree. "But there's plenty of servers out there with self-signed certs too" 12:23 < zelest> I'm not critizising you though mate, I'm more critizing the way TLS is implemented and used in mail servers. :) 12:24 -!- quiliro [~user@157.100.200.94] has joined #openbsd 12:24 < tercaL> I just meant I see and agree your point, yeah :) ;) 12:25 < zelest> :) 12:26 < jkc> TLS is by nature a bit of a pain to deal with even in the best of cases. Email servers... I can't be nearly as generous. Combine the two? 12:26 -!- jmcunx [jmc@user/zjmc] has joined #openbsd 12:27 -!- tjdaugaard [~tjdaugaar@nat-cgn9-185-107-12-178.static.kviknet.net] has joined #openbsd 12:28 < sibiria> it's not too bad to deal with imo. on the inbound you can't verify anything if you're dealing with others. on the outbound you can choose to be permissive or not. 12:29 -!- coretx [~quassel@D57C9B82.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:29 < sibiria> i stopped verifying on outbound relaying, because one or two people i mail with regularly use e-mail belonging to some city council non-profit apparently administers by an "IT janitor" who regularly forgets to renew certs 12:29 < sibiria> administered* 12:30 < IcePic> if only that part could be done in an automated fashion, for free... 8-/ 12:30 < sibiria> any year now 12:30 < lts> I trust you pronounce "city" with "sh" 12:31 < sibiria> but it would be nice if opensmtpd could "deliver and notify" instead of just deliver or deny 12:31 < sibiria> just to give a heads up 12:31 -!- coretx [~quassel@213.124.155.130] has joined #openbsd 12:32 -!- Leone [~Leo@104.247.239.156] has joined #openbsd 12:32 < IcePic> "the secrets you just sent to remote-security-corp.com were unfortunately unecnrypted, please try again later" 12:32 < pardis> you can verify inbound, it just requires cooperation from the sender to provide a client cert 12:32 < pardis> which, of course, nobody does 12:32 < sibiria> which was my point wiht "if you're dealing with others" 12:32 < sibiria> client certs isn't for the world. it's for you and your peers 12:32 < pardis> but it's probably not very useful to do that anyway when DKIM exists 12:33 < sibiria> IcePic: "trust but verify" (c) russia 12:33 < sibiria> "it was sent, but unortunately to untrustworthy party" 12:34 -!- Snaffu [~Snaffu@c-174-60-107-126.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #openbsd 12:34 < lts> "Trust is good, control is better" (c) better Russia 12:34 -!- adip 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working method at large, for confidentiality, is tls. nobody uses pgp 12:41 < pardis> but you were just complaining about how TLS doesn't work for confidentiality 12:41 < pardis> if effort is to be invested fixing mail, let's fix it properly instead of breaking SMTP 12:41 < sibiria> you misread me. it works for confidentiality 12:41 -!- bertiger [~bertiger@user/bertiger] has quit [Quit: -] 12:41 -!- byteskeptical [~amnesia@user/byteskeptical] has joined #openbsd 12:42 < pardis> it doesn't even work well for that 12:42 < pardis> you can't let a third party handle your mail without implicitly trusting them if you want to rely on TLS for confidentiality 12:43 < pardis> TLS provides confidentiality between one hop and the next, which is something almost all mail users don't care about 12:43 < pardis> they want confidentiality between the sender and the recipient 12:43 < sibiria> i don't think tls ever broke any of its promises. it certainly never promised implicit trust in both directions 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a5000 error 16:23 -!- jacobk [~quassel@209.124.138.80] has joined #openbsd 16:23 < ox1eef_> Segmentation fault (core dumped) 16:23 < ox1eef_> Is this something that's known / expected ? 16:24 -!- Kruppt [~Kruppt@104.169.26.150] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:26 -!- drathir_tor [~drathir@wireguard/tunneler/drathir] has joined #openbsd 16:27 -!- liquidsn4ke [~root@user/seg4lt] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:31 < thrig> there were userland memory changes, perhaps you're using something that still needs fixing 16:37 -!- Leone [~Leo@104.247.239.156] has quit [] 16:38 -!- norayr [~norayr@37.252.78.253] has joined #openbsd 16:41 -!- hwpplayer1 [~user@user/hwpplayer1] has quit [Quit: cylater] 16:43 -!- hwpplayer1 [~user@user/hwpplayer1] has joined #openbsd 16:48 -!- drathir_tor [~drathir@wireguard/tunneler/drathir] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:48 -!- MajorBiscuit [~MajorBisc@c-001-031-045.client.tudelft.eduvpn.nl] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 3.6] 16:50 < ox1eef_> Okay - I will reach out to the Ruby maintainer. 16:50 < ox1eef_> Thanks. 16:52 < pardis> are you sure the problem is with ruby? 16:52 < pardis> that is, have you reproduced it with something more minimal than bundle exec? 16:53 < ox1eef_> Nope. There's quite a lot in the mix when it comes to dependencies. But they're all Ruby libraries. Some with C extensions. 16:53 -!- drathir_tor [~drathir@wireguard/tunneler/drathir] has joined #openbsd 16:54 -!- uwharrie [~uwharrie@user/uwharrie] has left #openbsd [] 16:54 -!- norayr [~norayr@37.252.78.253] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:57 -!- jimrickshaw [~jimricksh@59.102.141.28] has joined #openbsd 17:03 -!- kodcode [~kodcode@user/kodcode] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 3.8] 17:04 -!- kodcode [~kodcode@user/kodcode] has joined #openbsd 17:04 -!- terminalpusher [~terminalp@2a01:586:179b:1:f6cb:2979:61db:57d2] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:06 -!- Trigon [~reuben@2601:680:8000:2eb2::ef3] has joined #openbsd 17:07 -!- hitest [~hitest@user/hitest] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:08 -!- keypresser86 [~f8b93c@71-218-87-71.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #openbsd 17:12 -!- terminalpusher [~terminalp@2a01:586:179b:1:2d5e:bed0:4d23:6f4d] has joined #openbsd 17:14 -!- jordanreger [~jordanreg@sourcehut/user/jordanreger] has joined #openbsd 17:16 < jordanreger> hey there, i'm trying to setup relayd with this config (https://paste.sr.ht/~jordanreger/7fc8b61d6ce8ee4e9296a39c1bff0677ffe4f572) but when i run relayd -n i get a syntax error on line 25 and "protocol httpfilter defined twice" on line 26? it also says "unused protocol: httpfilter" after that. any idea why this is the case? i followed the pattern of /etc/examples/relayd.conf 17:21 < thrig> where did those “ come from 17:21 -!- djhankb [~djhankb@208.113.164.68] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:22 -!- gman999 [~GMan999@user/gman999] has joined #openbsd 17:22 -!- djhankb [~djhankb@208.113.164.68] has joined #openbsd 17:22 < jordanreger> i'm writing this down in a note for future reference and i just copied the content from the note into that paste, on the actual relayd.conf it's the standard quotes "" 17:22 -!- tjdaugaard [~tjdaugaar@nat-cgn9-185-107-12-178.static.kviknet.net] has joined #openbsd 17:23 < jordanreger> nice catch though haha 17:23 -!- jaj [~jaj@menial.joachim.cc] has left #openbsd 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20:10 -!- josh_ [~josh@cpe-72-228-153-194.buffalo.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:11 < pardis> httpd is not a reverse proxy; you need to do it the other way round 20:11 < pardis> have relayd pass everything *not* matching that path to httpd 20:11 -!- RhDoc [~Thunderbi@81-223-196-34.static.upcbusiness.at] has joined #openbsd 20:12 -!- qqq [~qqq@92.43.167.61] has quit [Quit: leaving] 20:13 < jordanreger> okay, how would i do it from relayd's side? currently i'm doing this [httpd](https://futurist.city/~jr/software/httpd.conf), [relayd](https://futurist.city/~jr/software/relayd.conf) 20:21 -!- gxt__ [~gxt@gateway/tor-sasl/gxt] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:22 -!- gxt__ [~gxt@gateway/tor-sasl/gxt] has joined #openbsd 20:23 -!- bilegeek_ [~bilegeek@79.sub-174-209-41.myvzw.com] has joined #openbsd 20:25 -!- RhDoc [~Thunderbi@81-223-196-34.static.upcbusiness.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:25 -!- bilegeek [~bilegeek@2600:1008:b06e:a5ba:1ed2:b1b5:3d65:1eea] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:28 -!- Alhazred [~Alhazred@user/Alhazred] has joined #openbsd 20:28 -!- thowe [~thowe@mail.deschutesdigital.com] has quit [Server closed connection] 20:28 -!- thowe [~thowe@lists.deschutesdigital.com] has joined #openbsd 20:29 -!- polishdub [~polishdub@ip72-208-203-185.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #openbsd 20:35 -!- artmdl [~art5456@d172-218-174-94.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openbsd 20:36 -!- SirJitsu-work [~SirJitsu@162-231-111-175.lightspeed.livnmi.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 20:38 -!- jordanreger [~jordanreg@sourcehut/user/jordanreger] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:41 -!- tjdaugaard [~tjdaugaar@nat-cgn9-185-107-12-178.static.kviknet.net] has joined #openbsd 20:42 < xse> jordanreger: check out the filter part of the manual you can match requests/responses by path/query/url and so on, forwarding/blocking what matches https://0x0.st/HTYm.conf 20:50 -!- tercaL [~tercaL@user/tercal] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:00 -!- drainpipe [~drainpipe@pool-98-116-192-7.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openbsd 21:00 -!- fluentpwn [e7b4bb6755@spooky.academy] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:00 -!- thatcher [16abab341f@spooky.academy] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:02 -!- fluentpwn [e7b4bb6755@spooky.academy] has joined #openbsd 21:02 -!- thatcher [16abab341f@spooky.academy] has joined #openbsd 21:06 -!- ThinkT510 [~auronanda@sortix/contributor/ThinkT510] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 3.8] 21:08 -!- markmcb [~markmcb@static-198-54-131-133.cust.tzulo.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:09 -!- markmcb [~markmcb@192.252.212.19] has joined #openbsd 21:13 -!- fluentpwn [e7b4bb6755@spooky.academy] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:13 -!- thatcher [16abab341f@spooky.academy] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:15 -!- ThinkT510 [~auronanda@sortix/contributor/ThinkT510] has joined #openbsd 21:16 -!- norayr [~norayr@37.252.78.253] has joined #openbsd 21:16 -!- byteskeptical [~amnesia@user/byteskeptical] has quit [Quit: leaving] 21:17 -!- fluentpwn [e7b4bb6755@spooky.academy] has joined #openbsd 21:17 -!- thatcher [16abab341f@spooky.academy] has joined #openbsd 21:19 -!- zimmer [~zimmer@92.40.191.194.threembb.co.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:20 -!- zimmer [~zimmer@92.40.191.198.threembb.co.uk] has joined #openbsd 21:22 -!- oldpcuser [~oldpcuser@user/oldpcuser] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:25 -!- drainpipe [~drainpipe@pool-98-116-192-7.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:25 -!- fluentpwn [e7b4bb6755@spooky.academy] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:25 -!- thatcher [16abab341f@spooky.academy] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:25 -!- lavaball [~Melissa@31.204.155.215] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:27 -!- hwpplayer1 [~user@user/hwpplayer1] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:31 -!- peas [~peasfulto@user/PeasfulTown] has joined #openbsd 21:33 -!- adonis [~adonis@2600:4040:a67a:a201:f021:7cf5:61c0:84c7] has joined #openbsd 21:35 -!- fluentpwn [e7b4bb6755@spooky.academy] has joined #openbsd 21:35 -!- thatcher [16abab341f@spooky.academy] has joined #openbsd 21:35 < adonis> I have openbsd doing routing and it does ipv6. I am using dhcpcd to get a /56 prefix from my isp. It all works fine, until something unexpected happens like the box restarting due to a power outage. I'm not sure what goes wrong internally but all networked devices then fail to do ping6 to any address and only solution is to restart dhcpcd on openbsd. Any ideas what's going on :) ? 21:37 < adonis> I'm thinking maybe dhcpcd grabs a new prefix on restart? Somehow though I would think when that happens it would notify downstream devices, hey prefix change, refresh... but that isn't happening. 21:37 -!- dlg [~dlg@toy.eait.uq.edu.au] has quit [Server closed connection] 21:37 -!- dlg [~dlg@toy.eait.uq.edu.au] has joined #openbsd 21:37 < adonis> actually, let me rephrase that, I'm not sure if such a mechanism exists or if it's happening. I just know ipv6 transport is lost and dhcpcd restart is only thing that fixes it. 21:41 < avemestr_> A very wild guess: You do not get the /56 prefix fast enough from your ISP on boot. 21:42 -!- scain [~scain@2603-8080-b104-4e00-45cf-678b-0a7f-b897.res6.spectrum.com] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 21:42 < adonis> avemestr_: why would the timing of that screw things up? 21:43 < adonis> shouldn't dhcpd inform the downstream devices of when it actually receives a prefix, or something to that effect? 21:43 < adonis> dhcpcd* sorry.. 21:44 < phy1729> in theory you should get the same PD because your request uses the same duid 21:46 -!- znedw23 [~znedw@home.znedw.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:46 < adonis> here is what I think is true. If the devices come up before dhcpcd gets a prefix or finishes what it is doing then ipv6 transport fails from all those devices.. restartin dhcpcd fixes the issue. 21:47 -!- namaste [~namaste@user/xyk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:47 -!- namaste [~namaste@user/xyk] has joined #openbsd 21:47 -!- znedw23 [~znedw@home.znedw.com] has joined #openbsd 21:50 -!- gman999 [~GMan999@user/gman999] has joined #openbsd 21:51 -!- gh34 [~textual@cpe-184-58-181-106.wi.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 21:55 -!- drainpipe [~drainpipe@pool-98-116-192-7.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openbsd 21:57 -!- zimmer [~zimmer@92.40.191.198.threembb.co.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:57 -!- zimmer__ [~zimmer@92.40.191.195.threembb.co.uk] has joined #openbsd 22:00 -!- namaste [~namaste@user/xyk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:00 -!- natewrench [~josh@user/natewrench] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:03 -!- namaste [~namaste@user/xyk] has joined #openbsd 22:03 -!- LW [~LW@i5E866B3B.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 3.8] 22:05 -!- tjdaugaard [~tjdaugaar@nat-cgn9-185-107-12-178.static.kviknet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 22:06 -!- thedaemon [clay@user/thedaemon] has left #openbsd [Konversation terminated!] 22:09 -!- namaste [~namaste@user/xyk] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:09 -!- namaste_ [~namaste@user/xyk] has joined #openbsd 22:09 -!- adip [~adip@c145-69.icpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:11 -!- aaro [aaro@user/aaro] has quit [Quit: ""] 22:11 -!- Kilroy [Kilroy@user/Kilroy] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:14 -!- feriman [~feriman@188.163.114.49] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:21 -!- Filystyn [~piotr@user/filystyn] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 22:22 -!- keypresser86 [~f8b93c@71-218-87-71.hlrn.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:24 -!- bilegeek_ [~bilegeek@79.sub-174-209-41.myvzw.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:28 -!- Kilroy [Kilroy@user/Kilroy] has joined #openbsd 22:28 -!- ajshell1 [~ajshell1@c-76-120-147-191.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:29 -!- ajshell1 [~ajshell1@c-76-120-147-191.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #openbsd 22:31 -!- znedw23 [~znedw@home.znedw.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:31 -!- znedw23 [~znedw@home.znedw.com] has joined #openbsd 22:32 -!- xet7 [~xet7@user/xet7] has joined #openbsd 22:34 -!- mp4 [~irc@user/mp3] has quit [Server closed connection] 22:34 -!- mp4 [~irc@user/mp3] has joined #openbsd 22:35 -!- Tekk [~Tekk@157.245.82.116] has quit [Quit: nyaa~] 22:36 -!- Xenguy [~Xenguy@user/xenguy] has joined #openbsd 22:44 -!- oldpcuser [~oldpcuser@user/oldpcuser] has joined #openbsd 22:47 -!- adip [~adip@c145-69.icpnet.pl] has joined #openbsd 22:59 -!- SirJitsu [~SirJitsu@162-231-111-175.lightspeed.livnmi.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:59 -!- zimmer__ [~zimmer@92.40.191.195.threembb.co.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:00 -!- aaro [aaro@user/aaro] has joined #openbsd 23:00 -!- zimmer [~zimmer@92.40.191.198.threembb.co.uk] has joined #openbsd 23:05 -!- peas [~peasfulto@user/PeasfulTown] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:07 -!- peas [~peasfulto@user/PeasfulTown] has joined #openbsd 23:13 -!- Reinhilde is now known as Ellenor 23:14 -!- xtile [~terrain@c-24-56-224-169.customer.broadstripe.net] has joined #openbsd 23:16 -!- drainpipe [~drainpipe@pool-98-116-192-7.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 3.8] 23:19 -!- tozhu [~tozhu@171.88.173.55] has quit [Quit: tozhu] 23:19 -!- Trigon [~reuben@144.39.114.115] has joined #openbsd 23:26 -!- znedw23 [~znedw@home.znedw.com] has quit [Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds)] 23:28 -!- znedw23 [~znedw@home.znedw.com] has joined #openbsd 23:29 -!- jak3b [~jak3b@c-73-71-185-185.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #openbsd 23:30 -!- Bradipo [~amb@50-77-44-29-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 23:32 < jak3b> Hello, on a fresh install of current, I cant install python or anything that requires it, get an error msg libutil.16.0 cant be found libutil.17.0 (bad major) 23:35 -!- nyah [~nyah@york-06-b2-v4wan-167893-cust646.vm25.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 23:39 -!- adonis [~adonis@2600:4040:a67a:a201:f021:7cf5:61c0:84c7] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 3.8] 23:39 < thrig> welcome to -current! 23:40 -!- adip [~adip@c145-69.icpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:44 < jak3b> actually first time in along time Ive any problem 23:46 -!- comradeCrow [~comradeCr@99-110-128-132.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:47 < fro> sounds like it's working as expected 23:48 -!- kn [~kn@2001:1438:2012:c002:716:e50c:8c03:e77] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:48 -!- kn_ [~kn@2001:1438:2012:c002:716:e50c:8c03:e77] has joined #openbsd 23:50 < brocashelm> speaking of -current, how often is it advised to run sysupgrade? 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