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10:13 < tercaL> On OpenBSD 7.3, there's a problem in dovecot-2.3.20v0 package, where can I report the issue, any maintainer around here?
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10:13 < tercaL> 7.3 GENERIC.MP#1125 amd64 - RELEASE.
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10:15 < Foxy_> tercaL: report your issue on ports@ mailing-list + cc maintener Brad Smith <brad@comstyle.com>
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10:42 < tercaL> Thanks a lot Foxy_
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11:03 < renaud>  tercaL: what is the issue you have with dovecot?
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11:06 < renaud> that's debug log, if the program works, you should not worry, it only reports that kind of stuff because you asked it to
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11:09 < tercaL> renaud: Roger that. Thanks a lot!
11:11 < renaud> debug logs in general will only show interesting stuff if you have an issue. If you don't, they will report lots of useless stuff you normally don't want to see.
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13:03 < cyberdork> hello puffers, i am running obsd in Virtualbox with XFCE Desktop. Multicore boot is really slow and GUI stops partially at some point. Single core boot is faster but GUI also stops. Mouse movement still works. But cant click anything. Console also still works. Any ideas for debugging? It is the latest snapshot and the average log files did not show
13:03 < cyberdork> anything useful.
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13:04 < sibiria> are you accidentally running emulation instead of virtualization?
13:05 < cyberdork> i dont think so, since it is vbox running on windows i think there is no emulation mode at all ... And multicore is significantly slower
13:06 < cyberdork> the problems also start after going to xfce desktop after some minutes
13:07 < cyberdork> if the system is idle at the obsd gui login screen then it seems to not crash
13:07 < cyberdork> so I guess it is somehow related to xfce, not sure tbh
13:08 < sibiria> generally you will want to use ICH9 chipset, no EFI, PAE/NX enabled, KVM paravirtualization. for video go with VMSVGA and 3D accel enabled 
13:09 < sibiria> vbox guest additions don't run under openbsd so you won't have proper GPU acceleration, but these settings give you the smoothest experience you can have with an openbsd guest
13:09 < sibiria> and put your disks on SATA bus instead of IDE
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13:12 < sibiria> all of that said, it's of course entirely possible you're seeing a quirk related to recent changes in the snapshot you're running
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13:23 < tercaL> Do we truly need to have keep state/modulate state for the rules allowing traffics towards web server/mail server ports?
13:23 < tercaL> in PF
13:25 < tercaL> rules: pass out quick on $ext_if proto tcp to any port $int_tcp_services modulate state AND pass out quick on $ext_if proto udp to any port $int_udp_services keep state
13:27 < CosmicDJ> tercaL: first rule allows tcp, 2nd rule allows udp (for whatever reasons, no www/mail server uses UDP AFAIK unless you use the QUIC proto from google)
13:29 < tommyrot> you only need modulate state if the application runs on a system with weak ISN which is rare
13:29 < sibiria> i only "modulate state" on routed rules coming from other OSes
13:29 < tommyrot> and keep state is default so you don't have to specify it
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13:54 < tercaL> Thank you guys for great suggestions indeed, my final pf.conf file for my mail server is; https://pastebin.mozilla.org/FDQRfDst - if you could have a quick look at it?
13:55 < tercaL> Anything weird, obscure, absurd, abusive..?
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14:06 < CosmicDJ> tercaL: here's mine https://pastebin.mozilla.org/n7CdBa86
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14:08 < tercaL> Thanks for sharing, CosmicDJ. Digging further into it. What's "pass from (self)" ?
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14:11 < tommyrot> you use parenthesis if you have a dynamically assigned address
14:12 < sibiria> or if you surmise the address may change by you or something else
14:13 < sibiria> tommyrot: enclosing it in parens causes pf to automatically update the rule set when it notices the IP address of the interface has changed
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14:14 < tercaL> Any specific/technical reason for using "egress", instead of $ext_if definition or at least interface names directly, like em0, vio0, et cetera?
14:15 < Lucas6023> portability, mostly. `egress` tends to work in most places. It's a special group and all the interfaces with a default gateway get added in there.
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14:15 < sibiria> convenience/portability in some cases. i prefer to be specific about the interface because it's not always fully obvious what openbsd deems belongs to egress group
14:15 < Lucas6023> so most likely you can move that config from one place to another, with a different network driver, and it will keep working
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14:16 < Lucas6023> I'm with sibiria: for most of my stuff, I use the explicit name.
14:16 < Lucas6023> actually I use group names, which gives portability, and I manually manage the group names
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14:18 < tommyrot> i do the same
14:19 < tercaL> CosmicDJ: You didn't use some optimization rules like; antispoof, set reassemble yes, set ruleset-optimization basic, set optimization normal and match in all scrub (no-df random-id max-mss 1440)? I have them all, perhaps I'm exaggerating the PF matter on mail servers?
14:19 < tercaL> Any reason you have no such rules?
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14:20 < tercaL> Thank you guys, didn't know further details on egress.
14:20 < tercaL> btw.
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14:20 < thrig> a wild egress appears! role for initiative
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14:23 < zelest> block quick all
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14:57 < CosmicDJ> tercaL: I just stick with the defaults, and some ppl say urpf-failed is superior to antispoof; and I have a "match in" rule, without max-mss because I'm not on a pppoe link that needs a lower MTU
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15:54 < oldlaptop> PXE is an x86 thing, so far as I'm aware
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16:05 < cpet> You forgot one echo req and echo reply 
16:05 < tercaL> cpet: I got icmp_types = "{ echoreq, unreach, timex }" there?
16:06 < cpet> Think it's type 0 and 8
16:06 < thrig> why are you allowing DNS and NTP in
16:06 < cpet> And you have ICMP in brackets why not ports as well 
16:07 < tercaL> I'll arrange that, cpet.. and thrig: sorry, my bad, it should be "pass out quick" I think.
16:08 < cpet> Why sorry it's your Firewll could care less if it works or not 
16:09 < CosmicDJ> tercaL: you have to allow echo-reply too when not passing everything out by default (like I do)
16:10 < thrig> (DNS and NTP will generally have keep state on them outbound, which should allow replies back in)
16:12 < thrig> also DNS can happen over TCP randomly but you've got an "allow all tcp out" rule already
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16:18 < tercaL> CosmicDJ: How?
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16:20 < sibiria> just add echorep to your icmp types
16:21 < tercaL> sibiria: It's now: icmp_types = "{ echorep, echoreq, unreach, timex }" - still request time out when I ping. (pfctl -f, -e and -d tried)
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16:22 < sibiria> i wonder if it might not work specifying multiple icmp types on a single rule
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16:23 < sibiria> it conflicts with specifying multiple codes since there's no knowing what code you meant for what type
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16:24 < sibiria> nothing explicitly in the documentation suggests it will accept all codes for multiple types when specified like that, the way it does for single type
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16:24 < sibiria> you can test by just saying "icmp-type 8"
16:25 < tommyrot> what you are doing isn't really solving anything tercaL, you are making it hard on yourself
16:26 < sibiria> or, you can just inspect the expanded rule set with "pfctl -s all"
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16:26 < tommyrot> the knobs are there for when specific issues occur, you seem to use them from the start for no reason
16:26 < sibiria> it should result in multiple lines, one for each type
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17:03 < tercaL> Perhaps weird but solved it by replacing "block in quick log on $ext_if all" with "block return in log all" 
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17:10 < GnarledHorn> I saw traffic in here from rcharles about seeing "map stack for pid <pid> failed" from a recent SBCL update. I see the same thing in my dmesg
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17:12 < GnarledHorn> SBCL 2.2.5.openbsd
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17:25 < GnarledHorn> I just verified it's from SBCL
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17:49 < mmoreno80> hi! having a question. how do I disable pledge/unveil for a particular program? trying to disable it for iridium but isn't working (program fails)
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17:56 < cpet> https://www.reddit.com/r/openbsd/comments/li0fcd/disabling_pledge_in_firefox/
17:56 < kodcode> mmoreno80: edit /etc/<program_name>/pledge* or unveil*
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18:26 < nathanbw> I installed arm64 OpenBSD 7.3 into a qemu virtual machine (with hvf) on my M1 Mac, and even though I tell qemu to expose 8 CPUs to the virtual machine, only one core is seen by OpenBSD, and the bsd.mp kernel was not installed by default. Any ideas on how to get bsd.mp running in qemu on an M1 Mac?
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18:32 < mmoreno80> cpet, kodcode: I already tried that but doesn't work. another option?
18:33 < sibiria> nathanbw: what happens if you simply boot the mp kernel anyway?
18:33 < sibiria> if /bsd is your sp kernel, you can just interrupt the boot process at the prompt and write: boot /bsd.mp
18:35 < nathanbw> sibiria: I'll give it a shot. I assumed it would fail because `ls /bsd.mp` gives `ls: /bsd.mp: No such file or directory`
18:36 < sibiria> it will fail
18:36 < sibiria> you can download the mp kernel and drop it in /
18:36 < fro> mmoreno80: you can pass --no-sandbox to disable pledge
18:37 < fro> i assume this is all in the package readme file
18:37 < sibiria> it's on your favorite FTP server, in OpenBSD/7.3/arm64/bsd.mp
18:38 < mmoreno80> fro: that works! thanks, @fro!
18:40 < mmoreno80> fro: it is documented in the readme file for the package. next time I will check directly there. thanks for the RTFM :D
18:40 < nathanbw> sibiria: Thanks, trying that now
18:42 < quinq> Read The Fantastic Manual
18:42 < quinq> (welcome we could put it in the topic)
18:42 < quinq> hu?
18:43 < quinq> s/welcome/maybe/
18:43 < thrig> years of poor documentation elsewhere may not encourage such
18:43 < fro> nobody is going to read the topic either
18:44 < quinq> RTFT
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18:49 < quinq> (but I was talking about the turn of phrase rather than the concept itself :))
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18:53 < thrig> lpt0 on fire can be pretty incendiary
18:53 < thrig> or uh "significant heat incident" as the reports like to put it
18:53 < oldlaptop> rapid oxidation event
18:54 < quinq> Thanks to whom anonymously beautified the topic ;)
18:54 < sibiria> or worse, rapid disassembly event
18:55 < thrig> always fun when a user shows up at your door and says that the printer smells funny
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18:56 < quinq> ^^
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18:57 < avemestr> Heh!
18:57 < oldlaptop> thrig: (`find /usr/src -type f -exec grep -niH 'on fire' '{}' ';'` is mostly fortune(6) apparently)
18:57 < thrig> fire is actually pretty rare in server rooms. fountains and pools are rather more common
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18:58 < thrig> the tech was nice and made it so the chiller didn't spray water directly into the fan path
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19:22 < nathanbw> sibiria: Thank you, that worked perfectly. FYI I found this thread[0] on reddit, which recommended extra steps to ensure syspatch stays in sync and karl doesn't remain disabled, so I'm doing that as well. [0]: https://www.reddit.com/r/openbsd/comments/f5uov8/comment/fi0xv9q/
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19:28 < sibiria> glad you got it working
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19:40 < nathanbw> Heh, I spoke too soon. kernel relinking is still failing on boot
19:41 < nathanbw> But, the mp kernel is running and otherwise working
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19:42 < sibiria> did you rename the kernel to bsd and booted it normally?
19:43 < sibiria> openbsd will always act on /bsd
19:43 < sibiria> the choice of kernel comes down to which one has been renamed to just 'bsd'
19:44 < sibiria> if you have applied previous syspatches that involved kernel, then future patches will obviously fail
19:44 < nathanbw> Yeah, I did `cp /bsd /bsd.sp.old && mv bsd.mp /bsd`
19:44 < sibiria> since your bsd.mp does not contain any of those
19:44 < nathanbw> Right. I did `syspatch -R` and then  rebooted after mp was in /bsd, and then did syspatch again to pull all patches
19:44 < nathanbw> And they worked
19:47 < nathanbw> Then I did `sha256 -h /var/db/kernel.SHA256 /bsd` to try to get karl to start working again, but that was apparently not enough
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