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00:29 < vortexx> then again, still doesn't work. Sigh
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03:42 < wakaflaka> chatgpt4 has a lot to say about the openbsd code apparently..
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03:44 < wakaflaka> but it doesn't know the code is part of openbsd as a whole
03:44 < fro> what does it say?
03:47 < wakaflaka> one sec preparing the paste
03:49 < martian67> please dont
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03:50 < oldlaptop> if people want to see LLM output prompted by the OpenBSD tree, they're presumably capable of feeding the OpenBSD tree to an LLM themselves.
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03:51 < wakaflaka> https://clbin.com/iCXY0
03:51 < fro> i imagine they weren't going to paste it into the chat
03:51 < fro> yeah see
03:51 < fro> y'all really jumping the gun on this one
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03:53 < thrig> maybe that clbin.com cert could use some attention
03:53 < wakaflaka> hehe yeah
03:53 < fro> yeah
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03:54 < thrig> it's not expired--see, it just moved a little
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03:56  * oldlaptop is open to suggestions
03:57 < oldlaptop> it's not ix.io mainly because that seemed (and seems) considerably more complicated to use than clbin.com is or sprunge.us is/was
03:58 < oldlaptop> https://termbin.com/ seems attractive, but https://www.malwarebytes.com/blog/detections/termbin-com? (annoying as it is) does not
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04:13 < lts> Looks to me that Augmented Ignorance rather liked the code quality
04:13 < ssm_> Augmented Arrogance more like
04:15 < thrig> AA alliterates better, but misses the term-invented-to-get-money thing
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08:40 < Voyager_MP> Has anyone Installed jitsi under Openbsd ? Im looking for a Howto 
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08:53 < Foxy_> Voyager_MP: Philipp Buehler pb@ packaged Jitsi in ports => meta/jitsi
08:53 < Foxy_> You can watch its presentation at EuroBSDCon 2022 : video and slides available https://github.com/double-p/presentations/raw/master/EuroBSDcon/2022/OpenBSD-jitsi.pdf
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09:30 < inz> What would be an appropriate place to report an issue in libtls documentation (or implementation, whichever is correct :)?
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09:49 < D0peX> i should have searched this prior to rebooting... next time ill mash some commands in to the debugger
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12:31 < linetrace> no unresponsiveness of my MacBookAir7,2 since upgrading to 7.3-stable, so crossing my fingers that the issue doesn't resurface
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12:40 < tercaL> Hi. My rotated PF log files, like /var/log/pflog.1 for instance, contains lines starting from: Jul 03 03:00:04.924342 and the file is terminated at Jul 03 06:59:46.561813. I'm confused a bit, how can I make each rotated log to have at least logs for 24 hours?
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13:04 < quinq> tercaL, with /etc/newsyslog.conf
13:10 < tercaL> quinq: Thanks a lot!
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13:19 < quinq> You're welcome :)
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13:49 < PyR3X> updating sources I get a weird problem "cvs update: CVSROOT "1:34:34 2023" must be an absolute pathname"
13:50 < phy1729> inz: The libressl@ list https://www.openbsd.org/mail.html
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13:52 < inz> phy1729, thanks
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15:04 < d2crypt> I was browing /var/log/daemon this morning and was wondering what this line "validation failure" line means: Jul  3 08:02:01 bsdbox unwind[66053]: autoconf: validation failure <. NS IN>: no signatures from xx.xxx.xx.xx for trust anchor . while building chain of trust
15:04 < d2crypt> omitted the ip
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15:04 < Bradipo> Probably some DNSSEC stuff.
15:05 < d2crypt> hmm yes
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15:08 < sibiria> d2crypt: do you have a trust anchor file installed?
15:09 < sibiria> should be /var/db/unwind.key
15:09 < sibiria> i *think* unwind downloads it on its own, but i'm not sure
15:10 < d2crypt> sibiria: that file exists and there is information in it, however I did not configure it myself. I'm guessing unwind populated it, yes. I was looking at the nameservers my home computer uses. they appear to be assigned by my ip
15:10 < d2crypt> isp*
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20:36 < mmoreno80> hi! I am trying to use an old machine with a diskless setup. pxeboot is working and I see the kernel booting (first steps, it's checking memory or so ...). but it is taking to long: more than 10 minutes and still not seeing the OpenBSD banner. is this normal? 
20:37 < mmoreno80> oh! booted!
20:38 < mmoreno80> got an error 
20:38 < mmoreno80> took 10 or 15 minutes ... this will take a long time to debug ...
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20:38 < ssm_> what's the error
20:39 < mmoreno80> rarpd related
20:40 < mmoreno80> nfs_boot: using interface re0, with revarp & bootparams
20:40 < mmoreno80> panic: reverse arp not answered by rarpd or dhcp
20:46 < mmoreno80> fixing rarpd ...
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20:50 < mmoreno80>  /me 5 minutes and still doesn't boot ...
20:52 < mmoreno80> is this normal? didn't know that booting this way will take soo long 
20:53 < pardis> you probably won't find many people who use diskless(8)
20:53 < pardis> but it certainly isn't normal for a typical diskful install
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20:54 < pardis> have you verified that your tftp and nfs servers are usable outside the context of diskless booting?
20:55 < pardis> and have you tried tcpdump on the server to see what network traffic the client is sending?
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20:57 < Bradipo> I booted diskless years ago, and it wasn't slow then.  Cannot say if anything has changed in the years though.
20:58 < mmoreno80> pardis: tftp is working (pxeboot/kernel are loaded); working to fix the rarpd/nfs issue, but they have nothing to do with the kernel bootig. didn't try tcpdump yet. 
20:59 < mmoreno80> Bradipo: going to try booting bsd.rd ...
21:00 < mmoreno80> 15 minutes and the kernel still doesn't show the welcome banner 
21:00 < mmoreno80> pardis: this dosn't look related to nfs ... afaik
21:00 < pardis> what do you mean by the "welcome banner"?
21:01 < pardis> are you referring to the line "OpenBSD 7.3 (GENERIC) ..." ?
21:01 < Bradipo> Wow, diskless(8) mentions swap on NFS... that has to be painful.  Guess one would want vm.swapencrypt enabled in this case.
21:01 < pardis> if you are using swap on NFS you have probably already given up on life
21:01 < mmoreno80> pardis: yes, that banner; blue background, white foreground. 
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21:09 < mmoreno80> took 20 minutes but the kernel boots ...
21:09 < mmoreno80> :S
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21:39 < brocashelm> is there a good site i can post my review of openbsd? distrowatch has a character limit :(
21:40 < jcs> start a weblog
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21:41 < pardis> or a gemini server
21:41 < quinq> or a gopher hole
21:41 < brocashelm> well, i trimmed it down a bit and posted it to distrowatch. it should be up soon, i hope
21:42 < quinq> OpenBSD isn't a Linux distro though
21:42 < brocashelm> i know it isn't, but it's a review site for unix-like systems
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21:54 < oldlaptop> They have pages for freebsd, netbsd, et. al. too.
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21:55 < quinq> Ah ok, they just misnamed their website
21:56 < Bradipo> Yeah, kind of a poor choice of names.
21:56 < Bradipo> But, doesn't D in BSD stand for Distribution? :-)
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21:57 < quinq> You got me there Bradipo :D
21:58 < pardis> perhaps the distro is doing the watching, rather than being watched
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21:59 < quinq> Perhaps the watch is a wrist-watch
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