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00:21 < fengshaun> fifi, yoyo
00:21 < fifi> yoyo
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06:02 < kodcode> Hello!
06:03 < kodcode> I keep getting some error messages in dmesg from drm. dmesg: http://sprunge.us/FHmWAp - what does that mean?
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12:26 < pardis> messages like that are common in imported Linux code
12:26 < pardis> if there is no problem associated with it, it's probably best ignored
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15:07 < kodcode> pardis: Thanks.
15:13 < pra> oldlaptop: "LD_LIBRARY_PATH is a ‘:’ separated list of directory paths which are
15:13 < pra> searched by ld.so(1) when it needs to load a shared library.  It can be
15:13 < pra> viewed as the run-time equivalent of the -L switch of ld(1).
15:14 < pra> oldlaptop: Here says "It can be viewed as the run-time equivalent of the -L switch of ld(1)" :thinking_emotion:
15:16 < quinq> Yes, we already explain this before
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15:44 < oldlaptop> pra: In much the same way that ld.so(1) is the "run-time equivalent of ld(1)".
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15:47 < oldlaptop> ld(1) is the static linker. It's what you use when you're building something. It links units of object code together, from your program (generally .o files) or from static libraries (generally .a archive files that contain .o files), and it also can add information to the finished, linked binary that it needs certain shared libraries in order to run.
15:48 < oldlaptop> ld.so(1) is the dynamic linker. When you run (or try to run) a dynamically-linked binary, one that has that "information" saying it needs shared libraries to run, it links your binary with the shared libraries it needs, so you can actually run it.
15:49 < oldlaptop> ld.so(1), the dynamic linker, uses LD_LIBRARY_PATH. ld(1) does not.
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15:52 < oldlaptop> It needs something like LD_LIBRARY_PATH (at least it does if you want to be able to override its search path - that's not necessarily a desirable thing most of the time) because it's not meant to be invoked directly. Instead, the kernel invokes it for you behind the scenes - so you don't have a chance to give it command-line arguments or anything like that.
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15:53 < oldlaptop> ld(1) doesn't have that problem, because you can invoke it directly (or indirectly through cc(1) or something) and emend its search path with -L.
15:53 < oldlaptop> So it doesn't use (or need) LD_LIBRARY PATH.
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16:00 < pra> oldlaptop: Thank you again.
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17:54 < xse> redoing the whole sysupgrade and getting the password right worked
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23:27 < orwell> What's the best way to find out how many files a daemon needs? I encounter regularly "too many open files" errors in synapse. Just incrementally increase the limit?
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