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00:24 < phy1729> Maybe the daemon has documentation or a setting, but more or less yes
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07:10 < quinq> n/14
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08:06 < fifi> hey, I have installed php-8.28, but there is not php_fpm in the services, so how can I reload php after I made changes to the php-8.2.ini file? ;o
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08:30 < fifi> ok nevermind, something was wrong but it's ok now
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09:19 < obcecado> hi
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12:25 < typicat> :q
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14:48 < GnarledHorn> My tmux session running `sic` (irc client) mysteriously dies every few days. I looked in dmesg for OOMs, checked /var/log, nothing. Where else can I look to find an error or some clue about what's happening?
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14:50 < thrig> there are reports of tmux misbehavior on -current
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14:52 < byteskeptical> GnarledHorn: from what I can tell it's a memory unmap issue but only under certain cirumstances 
14:52 < GnarledHorn> I wonder if I could wrap tmux in something to capture any output when it crashes
14:53 < byteskeptical> I've submitted a ktrace and a core file to misc
14:53 < GnarledHorn> byteskeptical: it's probably about once in 4 days that I'll log into this machine to see the tmux session has died 
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14:53 < GnarledHorn> byteskeptical: I'll take a look at the mail archives
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14:56 < byteskeptical> GnarledHorn: I have been able to find a workaround in not loading any config and get a log file with tmux -vv -Ltest -f/dev/null new
14:58 < GnarledHorn> I'm actually going to try that now. back in a moment
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15:03 < GnarledHorn> Now I'll have a giant log file to inspect next time it happens :)
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15:07 < bob_x2> how to install x server if it was not selected during installation ?
15:09 < phy1729> https://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq4.html#FilesNeeded see Adding a File Set After Install
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15:19 < bob_x2> why it requires re-boot ? just installation software
15:19 < bob_x2> security ?
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15:20 < holsta> bob_x2: No, it's just that using the installer is easier for most people. 
15:20 < bob_x2> and there is no way to install under root account ?
15:21 < holsta> bob_x2: Sure, but you need to be very familiar with tar/gzip and other such tools. 
15:22 < phy1729> and it's unsupported to go another route
15:23 < bob_x2> and if I choose upgrade why it asks me to select bsd* too
15:23 < bob_x2> it even forces me giving the default "no" response when I deselected them and installed only x*
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15:24 < bob_x2> nevermind I already got other parts selected and downloaded but strange behavior
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15:33 < bob_x2> is there default internet browser pre-installed ?
15:33 < bob_x2> it started xserver automatically and I logged into it
15:33 < bob_x2> do I need to compile preferred browser by myself ?
15:33 < phy1729> there's no browser in base, but you can install one with pkg_add
15:34 < bob_x2> what is the simpliest one ?
15:34 < bob_x2> and secure enough
15:36 < GnarledHorn> bob_x2: This website may provide some baseline information that you find helpful: https://www.openbsdhandbook.com/
15:36 < GnarledHorn> The browser choices are just what you would expect: firefox, chromium, and various pet projects from others
15:39 < bob_x2> oki
15:39 < apotheon> The "simplest" browsers (i.e. text-mode browsers, e.g. w3m) are almost certainly not what you want.
15:39 < bob_x2> yep I need to search some JS web sites
15:40 < bob_x2> include wikipedia with graphics
15:40 < bob_x2> im installing chromium as firefox was not found with pkg_add firefox command
15:40 < anthk_> hello, on obsdfreqd, can apmd work with it with the '-L' flag?
15:40 < apotheon> Your definition of "secure enough" is unclear, but Surf and Vimb are both pretty simple compared to the big 1.5 browsers.
15:41 < bob_x2> apotheon thanks
15:41 < bob_x2> I will try them first then
15:41 < apotheon> There seems to be something wrong if firefox isn't available to you.
15:44 < bob_x2> maybe its called other way ? 
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15:51 < apotheon> bob_x2: What's the actual output after you run "pkg_add firefox"?
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15:55 < bob_x2> can't find firefox
15:55 < sibiria> anthk_: with obsdfreqd you don't need to use apmd's performance adjustment features. obsdfreqd does that better
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15:57 < sibiria> if you use apmd for hibernation/suspend stuff you should start it either with -L or -H
15:57 < sibiria> and let obsdfreqd manage CPU freq.
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16:03 < anthk_> sibiria: well, thanks
16:03 < anthk_> I wanted apmd for suspending/resuming
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16:22 < apotheon> bob_x2: There must be something wrong with pkg_add on your system, then.
16:24 < apotheon> bob_x2: What's the output of uname -mrsv?
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18:09 < bob_x2> apotheon:OpenBSD 7.1 
18:10 < thrig> time to update
18:11 < GnarledHorn> https://www.openbsd.org/faq/upgrade72.html :)
18:11 < GnarledHorn> then on to 7,3
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18:29 < a1fa> o/
18:29 < fifi> o/
18:30 < GnarledHorn> o/
18:40 < apotheon> bob_x2: That's two versions ago.  I'm not sure Firefox is still supported for that old a version.
18:41 < apotheon> bob_x2: Upgrading to the next version of the OS is still supported, though.
18:41 < apotheon> (as indicated by GnarledHorn)
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20:14 < bob_x2> I will try to upgrade 
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21:29 < a1fa> o/ how did the upgrade go
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22:04 < emmanuelux> hello when using autoconf in hostname.xxx , seems mtu setting cant be set at this level
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22:14 < phy1729> What did you try?
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22:34 < a1fa> you could set it as a command emmanuelux 
22:35 < a1fa> !ifconfig interface mtu
22:35 < a1fa> err
22:35 < a1fa> !ifconfig \$if mtu 1500
22:39 < emmanuelux> a1fa, yes thx
22:43 < phy1729> or just    mtu 1500
22:43 < emmanuelux> not working with autoconf
22:48 < a1fa> phy1729: would that be in a new line, or same line?
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22:49 < a1fa> inet mtu 1500
22:49 < a1fa> inet autoconf
22:50 < phy1729> new line and you don't need inet
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23:08 < emmanuelux> you have tested? dont think it is working 
23:10 < thrig> what makes you think I'm not testy, huh?
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23:16 < phy1729> Yep
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