--- Log opened Tue Jul 25 00:00:16 2023 00:03 -!- cpk [~cpk@185.172.87.163] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:04 -!- cpk [~cpk@185.172.87.163] has joined #openbsd 00:05 -!- rueda [~rueda@tumor.rlr.id.au] has joined #openbsd 00:06 -!- keypresser86 [~f8b93c@97-122-188-125.hlrn.qwest.net] has quit [] 00:06 -!- spotyx [~Spoty@pool-108-52-85-163.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openbsd 00:07 -!- keypresser86 [~f8b93c@97-122-188-125.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #openbsd 00:08 -!- Posterdati [~Posterdat@user/Posterdati] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:08 -!- nopc0de [~nopc0de@212.71.14.103.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:22 -!- Posterdati [~Posterdat@user/Posterdati] has joined #openbsd 00:23 -!- zimmer [~zimmer@92.40.169.44.threembb.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:30 -!- moonshine [~moonshine@user/moonshine] has quit [Quit: ---] 00:41 < ox1eef_> fw_update didn't pull in anything new: fw_update: added none; updated none; kept amdgpu,uvideo,vmm 00:42 < ox1eef_> Maybe not available ? Should I use the workaround instead? 00:42 < ox1eef_> Looks like I don't need to do anything special for that. 00:46 < phy1729> Did you syspatch first? 00:47 < Bradipo> Well, and furthermore, do you have an AMD chipset? 00:47 < Bradipo> Or does this also apply to Intel? 00:47 < ox1eef_> Yep, AMD Ryzen Pro 7. 00:48 < ox1eef_> syspatch did not work for me: '7.3-stable not supported' but I understood that was expected. 00:48 -!- Lucanis [~Lucanis@user/lucanis] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:50 -!- wblue [~Thunderbi@2600:1700:4f00:2c20:d86:2ae6:a1e4:48dd] has joined #openbsd 00:53 -!- jak3b [~jak3b@user/jak3b] has joined #openbsd 00:55 -!- Lucanis [~Lucanis@user/lucanis] has joined #openbsd 00:58 -!- jak3b [~jak3b@user/jak3b] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 4.0.2] 01:04 -!- afresh1 [~afresh1@us.holligan.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:06 -!- afresh1 [~afresh1@us.holligan.net] has joined #openbsd 01:11 -!- tozhu [~tozhu@103.254.116.195] has quit [Quit: tozhu] 01:14 -!- jbauer [~jbauer@mail.paritybit.ca] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:16 -!- jbauer [~jbauer@mail.paritybit.ca] has joined #openbsd 01:18 < quinq> workedforme on 7.3 01:22 < ox1eef_> Hrm 01:27 -!- thfr [~thfr@104.238.135.228] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 3.8] 01:28 -!- AlaskanEmily [~AlaskanEm@user/alaskanemily] has joined #openbsd 01:33 -!- MarvelousWololo [~Marvelous@2804:2b38:c163:db00:d49:7098:5ec7:fa64] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:34 -!- thfr [~thfr@104.238.135.228] has joined #openbsd 01:38 -!- jambove [~jambove@51B6E143.dsl.pool.telekom.hu] has joined #openbsd 01:38 -!- jambove_ [~jambove@51B6E25D.dsl.pool.telekom.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:38 < pardis> what does `sed -n '/amdgpu/d;/amd/p' /usr/share/misc/firmware_patterns` say? 01:39 -!- edthix [~Thunderbi@175.137.45.216] has joined #openbsd 01:42 < quinq> Or maybe what does `dmesg | grep -i 'cpu0:.*amd'` say 01:49 -!- tozhu [~tozhu@103.254.116.195] has joined #openbsd 01:50 -!- ikarso [uid475540@id-475540.tinside.irccloud.com] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 01:51 -!- Posterdati [~Posterdat@user/Posterdati] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:52 -!- wblue [~Thunderbi@2600:1700:4f00:2c20:d86:2ae6:a1e4:48dd] has quit [Quit: wblue] 01:56 -!- sunwind [~paradox@81.189.208.46.dyn.plus.net] has quit [Quit: Outside Context Problem.] 01:57 < ox1eef_> AMD Ryzen 7 PRO 4750U with Radeon Graphics 01:57 -!- clonorizer [~eniac@user/eniac] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:58 < ox1eef_> Above was for dmesg. sed returns nothing. 01:59 < pardis> then you aren't on the latest -stable 01:59 -!- concrete_houses [~g@c-73-47-11-183.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:59 < ox1eef_> Roger 02:01 -!- concrete_houses [~g@c-73-47-11-183.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #openbsd 02:01 -!- seninha [~seninha@user/seninha] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:01 -!- lcubed [~lcubed@user/lcubed] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:01 -!- seninha [~seninha@user/seninha] has joined #openbsd 02:04 -!- Posterdati [~Posterdat@user/Posterdati] has joined #openbsd 02:05 -!- Yonle [~Yonle@user/yonle] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:06 -!- Yonle [~Yonle@user/yonle] has joined #openbsd 02:07 -!- lcubed [~lcubed@user/lcubed] has joined #openbsd 02:07 -!- Xenguy [~Xenguy@user/xenguy] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:08 -!- demouser [~demouser@ip-109-42-115-7.web.vodafone.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:10 -!- hirigaray [~kori@185.21.216.167] has quit [Changing host] 02:10 -!- hirigaray [~kori@user/hirigaray] has joined #openbsd 02:14 -!- chrisz [qvfk3tda6i@195.52.172.32] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:16 -!- chrisz [j085tsuqtp@62.144.41.60] has joined #openbsd 02:17 -!- swaggboi [~swaggboi@slackware.uk/supporter/swaggboi] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:19 -!- seninha [~seninha@user/seninha] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:25 -!- Xenguy [~Xenguy@user/xenguy] has joined #openbsd 02:26 < lts> Looks like the zenbleed patches only actually work for EPYC. Ryzen and Threadripper get their patches in... Q4 https://www.tomshardware.com/news/zenbleed-bug-allows-data-theft-from-amds-zen-2-processors-patches-released 02:27 < thrig> of what year, though? 02:27 < lts> Valid point. They do mention 2023 02:27 < lts> In any case, it is going to be 3-5 months of "fun" 02:28 -!- clonorizer [~eniac@user/eniac] has joined #openbsd 02:33 -!- yu [~yu@user/yu] has quit [Quit: yu] 02:33 -!- jf [~jf@user/jonfle] has quit [Quit: jf] 02:33 -!- jf [~jf@user/jonfle] has joined #openbsd 02:33 -!- yu [~yu@user/yu] has joined #openbsd 02:35 -!- jf [~jf@user/jonfle] has quit [Client Quit] 02:35 -!- yu [~yu@user/yu] has quit [Client Quit] 02:44 -!- fro [fro@humpty.dance] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:45 -!- kado [~kado@user/kado] has joined #openbsd 03:01 -!- cpk [~cpk@185.172.87.163] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:07 -!- fro [fro@humpty.dance] has joined #openbsd 03:16 -!- housemate [~housemate@144.130.156.130] has joined #openbsd 03:17 -!- bilegeek [~bilegeek@2600:1008:b013:1e6d:b6be:32f4:8f44:716e] has joined #openbsd 03:18 < tommyrot> new microcode and a bios update are two seperate things 03:26 -!- nawcom [~nawcom@bulldadachat.com] has quit [Quit: bye] 03:27 -!- nawcom [~nawcom@bulldadachat.com] has joined #openbsd 03:30 -!- housemate [~housemate@144.130.156.130] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 03:33 -!- todd [~todd@gateway/tor-sasl/toddf] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:39 -!- Dj_Dexter [~Dark_X@2803:c180:2100:31c4:4453:d42b:956a:8950] has joined #openbsd 03:39 -!- MarvelousWololo [~Marvelous@2804:2b38:c163:db00:e528:4deb:cbeb:bd46] has joined #openbsd 03:40 -!- todd [~todd@gateway/tor-sasl/toddf] has joined #openbsd 03:44 -!- mw [~mw@ripley.0x6d77.org] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:44 -!- mw_ [~mw@ripley.0x6d77.org] has joined #openbsd 03:44 -!- mw_ [~mw@ripley.0x6d77.org] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:46 -!- mw [~mw@ripley.0x6d77.org] has joined #openbsd 03:48 -!- ajr [uid609314@user/ajr] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 03:52 -!- clonorizer [~eniac@user/eniac] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:56 -!- puter [~mav@cpe-184-153-64-174.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: The Lounge - https://thelounge.chat] 03:57 -!- mw [~mw@ripley.0x6d77.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:03 -!- mw [~mw@ripley.0x6d77.org] has joined #openbsd 04:10 -!- Noisytoot [~noisytoot@sourcehut/user/noisytoot] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:11 -!- toxic063 [~toxic0@82.66.203.96] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:13 -!- toxic063 [~toxic0@82.66.203.96] has joined #openbsd 04:15 -!- carbonfiber [uid513797@id-513797.uxbridge.irccloud.com] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 04:16 -!- shiranaihito_ [~shiranaih@123-192-192-149.dynamic.kbronet.com.tw] has joined #openbsd 04:19 -!- drathir_tor [~drathir@wireguard/tunneler/drathir] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:19 -!- martian67 [~martian67@user/martian67] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:19 -!- martian67 [~martian67@user/martian67] has joined #openbsd 04:19 -!- drathir_tor [~drathir@wireguard/tunneler/drathir] has joined #openbsd 04:22 -!- koo5 [~quassel@vmi579006.contaboserver.net] has quit [Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. 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I'm looking for a way to calculate dates on openbsd (stuff like "today - 5 days"). The date command doesn't support formatting other dates than "now", so how can I do it ? 06:39 -!- mncheck [~mncheck@193.224.205.254] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 06:39 -!- mncheck [~mncheck@193.224.205.254] has joined #openbsd 06:40 -!- Noisytoot [~noisytoot@sourcehut/user/noisytoot] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:40 -!- bountyht [arelor@triton.blinkenshell.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:42 -!- fifi [~fifi@37.248.172.44] has joined #openbsd 06:43 -!- Noisytoot [~noisytoot@sourcehut/user/noisytoot] has joined #openbsd 06:43 < z3bra> oh. nevermind I found a way (using -f + -j and calculating using seconds since epoch) 06:47 -!- Noisytoot [~noisytoot@sourcehut/user/noisytoot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:47 -!- mncheck [~mncheck@193.224.205.254] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:47 -!- Yonle [~Yonle@user/yonle] has quit [Quit: See you later.] 06:48 -!- mncheck [~mncheck@193.224.205.254] has joined #openbsd 06:49 -!- Yonle [~Yonle@user/yonle] has joined #openbsd 06:51 -!- ikarso [uid475540@id-475540.tinside.irccloud.com] has joined #openbsd 06:56 < lts> Alternative solution: date -r $(expr $(date "+%s") - $(echo "86400 * 5" | bc)) "+%Y-%m-%d" 06:58 < z3bra> oh right, -r is just '-j -f %s' right ? 06:58 -!- sunwind [~paradox@81.189.208.46.dyn.plus.net] has joined #openbsd 06:59 -!- sunwind [~paradox@81.189.208.46.dyn.plus.net] has quit [Client Quit] 06:59 < lts> Same end result at least, I suppose 06:59 < z3bra> indeed, thanks for the tips ! 07:04 -!- Noisytoot [~noisytoot@sourcehut/user/noisytoot] has joined #openbsd 07:06 -!- Noisytoot [~noisytoot@sourcehut/user/noisytoot] has quit [Excess Flood] 07:06 -!- edthix [~Thunderbi@175.137.45.216] has quit [Quit: edthix] 07:17 -!- concrete_houses [~g@c-73-47-11-183.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:18 -!- n6bsd [~n6bsd@user/n6bsd] has joined #openbsd 07:18 -!- rebo [~Martin@h-98-128-174-229.A785.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openbsd 07:19 -!- memset [~memset@gateway/tor-sasl/memset] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:19 -!- memset [~memset@gateway/tor-sasl/memset] has joined #openbsd 07:20 -!- Noisytoot [~noisytoot@sourcehut/user/noisytoot] has joined #openbsd 07:27 -!- jaj [~jaj@menial.joachim.cc] has joined #openbsd 07:28 -!- Noisytoot [~noisytoot@sourcehut/user/noisytoot] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in] 07:30 -!- Noisytoot [~noisytoot@sourcehut/user/noisytoot] has joined #openbsd 07:32 -!- jaj [~jaj@menial.joachim.cc] has left #openbsd [] 07:32 -!- jaj [~jaj@menial.joachim.cc] has joined #openbsd 07:33 -!- Noisytoot [~noisytoot@sourcehut/user/noisytoot] has quit [Excess Flood] 07:34 -!- lavaball [~Melissa@31.204.155.215] has joined #openbsd 07:34 -!- Noisytoot [~noisytoot@sourcehut/user/noisytoot] has joined #openbsd 07:34 < IcePic> z3bra: I think I remember someone setting timezone to a large positive value and running date once, long time ago, to get date to calculate "yesterdays date, with all daylight savings and leap days and all that 07:36 < IcePic> TZ=+144 date 07:36 < IcePic> Wed Jul 19 07:35:51 2023 07:36 < IcePic> you'd have to compensate for your own offset from UTC, but it's kind of neat and simple 07:37 -!- reset [~reset@user/reset] has quit [Quit: reset] 07:42 < kodcode> Not sure if this is OpenBSD related, `date` shows correct date and time but a lot of websites show a different time-zone time. 07:42 < kodcode> Any clue why this is happening? 07:42 < IcePic> they might be showing their time 07:44 < kodcode> IcePic: Don't think so. Sometimes after a refresh the time is getting updated, sometimes not. 07:44 -!- k0ga [~k0ga@simple-cc.org] has quit [Quit: leaving] 07:44 -!- Noisytoot [~noisytoot@sourcehut/user/noisytoot] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:44 -!- k0ga [~k0ga@simple-cc.org] has joined #openbsd 07:45 -!- sliced [~sliced@ip-185.238.207.18.laito.net.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:46 -!- sliced [~sliced@ip-185.238.207.18.laito.net.pl] has joined #openbsd 07:51 -!- imega [~coma@2001-8e0-2220-4700--a30.ewz.ftth.ip6.as8758.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 07:51 < z3bra> IcePic, that's neat indeed ! 07:52 < z3bra> fun fact: it doesn't work with GNU date 07:56 -!- danilogondolfo [~danilogon@37.228.206.65] has joined #openbsd 07:58 < z3bra> another unrelated question: is it possible to make a pf rule for all source NOT matching a table ? 07:58 < z3bra> I tried the following which doesn't work: 07:58 < z3bra> pass in from ! 07:58 < z3bra> pass in ! from
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". Not sure why it was not working earlier… I might have added a weird char. Sorry for the noise 08:06 -!- rjc [cjbzm9bke8@srv.dataswamp.org] has joined #openbsd 08:07 -!- AlaskanEmily [~AlaskanEm@user/alaskanemily] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:10 < bob_x1> where are the keyboard encodings files are stored ? And is there analog of showkey utility from Linux? 08:13 -!- LW [~LW@i5E866B26.versanet.de] has joined #openbsd 08:14 -!- Potpourr- [~Potpourri@192.252.212.31] has joined #openbsd 08:15 -!- Noisytoot [~noisytoot@sourcehut/user/noisytoot] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:15 -!- Potpourri [~Potpourri@87.249.134.10] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:15 -!- Potpourr- is now known as Potpourri 08:23 < z3bra> bob_x1, check wsconsctl(1) 08:23 -!- Noisytoot [~noisytoot@sourcehut/user/noisytoot] has joined #openbsd 08:23 -!- quiliro [~user@2800:bf0:a1:1333::1] has quit [Quit: Ĝis revido!] 08:24 -!- Posterdati [~Posterdat@user/Posterdati] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:26 -!- imega [~coma@nat-wlan-eduroam-192-41-132-062.uzh.ch] has joined #openbsd 08:28 -!- fifi [~fifi@37.248.172.44] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:28 -!- demouser [~demouser@ip-109-42-114-73.web.vodafone.de] has joined #openbsd 08:29 -!- comradeCrow 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use it correctly 09:02 < z3bra> I've looked into it 2 weeks ago, and it seems they are sort of hardcoded into wsconsctl 09:03 < z3bra> But you can "fix" it using /etc/wsconsctl.conf 09:03 < z3bra> if you need to remap the key for example 09:04 -!- adip [~adip@c148-204.icpnet.pl] has joined #openbsd 09:05 < bob_x1> ah... there is an Esc key as Meta key 09:05 < bob_x1> not Alt 09:11 -!- mornfall [~mornfall@user/mornfall] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:12 -!- tjdaugaard [~tjdaugaar@nat-cgn9-185-107-12-178.static.kviknet.net] has joined #openbsd 09:22 -!- fifi [~fifi@apn-37-248-172-44.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:22 -!- fifi [~fifi@apn-37-248-172-44.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl] has joined #openbsd 09:29 -!- adip [~adip@c148-204.icpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 09:30 -!- ikarso [uid475540@id-475540.tinside.irccloud.com] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 09:31 -!- adip [~adip@c148-204.icpnet.pl] has joined #openbsd 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13:56 -!- tozhu [~tozhu@103.254.116.195] has quit [Quit: tozhu] 13:57 * eea waves 13:59 < a1fa> how is everyone doing today 14:01 < eea> i think i found a negative trait of openbsd 14:02 < eea> it encourages the set and forget ;) 14:02 < eea> heh 14:02 < a1fa> eea: thats why a lot of folks use git to track their configs 14:02 < a1fa> (dot files) 14:02 < thrig> as opposed to Windows which is forever annoying you with some pop-up or other crap 14:03 -!- tozhu [~tozhu@103.254.116.195] has joined #openbsd 14:04 < a1fa> click here, click there 14:04 < a1fa> windows update removes the here and there 14:04 < a1fa> Has anyone played with TNC modems with OpenBSD? 14:04 -!- fifi [~fifi@apn-37-248-174-104.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl] has joined #openbsd 14:05 -!- mikeputnam [~mikeputna@wilug/mikeputnam] has joined #openbsd 14:06 -!- vxla [~vxla@user/vxla] has joined #openbsd 14:07 < GnarledHorn> not me 14:07 -!- m5zs7k [aquares@web10.mydevil.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:08 -!- spotyx 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inactivity] 14:24 < pardis> kodcode: Firefox at one point defaulted to UTC for privacy reasons (but no longer does as of 7.3) 14:24 < pardis> though it might still do it if you enable the right privacy options, I'm not sure 14:25 -!- b3lm0nt [~b3lm0nt@user/be1m0nt] has quit [Client Quit] 14:25 < pardis> the idea is that a website could use your timezone information to detect your approximate location 14:25 -!- b3lm0nt [~ben@user/be1m0nt] has joined #openbsd 14:25 < pardis> this design is completely broken and websites shouldn't be responsible for formatting times at all, there should just be a