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00:55 < GnarledHorn> Anyone have experience running an apu6b4? oldlaptop mentioned running an apu2 before. 
00:55 < GnarledHorn> This is one of the headless PC Engine computers
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01:00 < oldlaptop> The only reason it should be any different from any of the other apu2 boards (apu3*, 4*, and 6* are all "apu2 boards" for this purpose) is the SFP cage (which I would expect to work fine?)
01:00 < GnarledHorn> also the whole reason I bought it -_-
01:00 < GnarledHorn> My other apu2 came from an old friend, who may have flashed the bios or something before it reached me. Did yours load with the firmware it came with?
01:01 < GnarledHorn> That's one possible unknown anyway
01:01 < oldlaptop> Yes, it should be reasonably straightforward
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01:04 < oldlaptop> The firmware is hardcoded to 115200 baud, so you'd need to accommodate that; see e.g. https://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq7.html#SerCon
01:04 < GnarledHorn> I'm able to get on the console without issue
01:04 < GnarledHorn> it gets trapped in a boot loop after loading bsd.rd (or bsd - I tried that too)
01:05 < oldlaptop> That's where (IIRC) you need to set the baud rate.
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01:05 < GnarledHorn> just after the " "entry point at ..." log statement
01:05 < GnarledHorn> interesting... maybe that's the ticket. 
01:06 < oldlaptop> the FAQ mentions https://man.openbsd.org/man8/amd64/boot.8#stty
01:07 < oldlaptop> (and `set tty com0` of course)
01:08 < oldlaptop> you'd also want to set the baud rate appropriately when editing /etc/ttys (as described in the FAQ)
01:09 < GnarledHorn> that did it :(
01:09 < GnarledHorn> frowny bc I've embarassed myself on misc@ haha
01:09 < GnarledHorn> thank you for the pointer
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01:29 < a1fa> hi
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06:18 < ninjin> Anyone else experiencing issues on 7.3 with getting NSD to stop cleanly with rcctl stop? I am running all settings as they came and just added my zones.
06:19 < ninjin> What happens is that I run rcctl stop nsd and the processes are still there and I have to run kill.
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06:25 < quinq> ninjin, works fine here
06:26 < ninjin> Thanks quinq, will try to see what it could be as I have really not played around with anything on this box and it should be as vanilla as it gets.
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06:53 < ninjin> Works now and I have used start, stop, and restart succesfully about four times. No clue what went wrong. I observed the behaviour over several days as well, but will move on to more fun with OpenBSD instead.
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07:45 < divansantana> Occasionally my lenono e14g5 load is high.  Though cpu/mem/disk seems fine.  What could I check?
07:45 < divansantana> I'm thinking of flashing a bios update next.
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08:06 < avemestr> What does "load is high" mean?
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13:41 < josuah> avemestr: this is the "load aaverage" metric
13:41 < josuah> the "CPU percentage" is a similar metric
13:41 < josuah> but the CPU percentage migh be always ~0% or ~100%
13:41 < josuah> as if the CPU has something to do, why would it sleep? it might do it at 100% speed
13:41 < josuah> even if it is something very simple, that takes 1s to compute
13:42 < josuah> so if the CPU is at 0% all of the time, the 100% for 1s, the 0%...
13:42 < josuah> if you measure the CPU *right* in the 1s, it would appear that the CPU is over charged! Whereas it can really take more tasks to do
13:43 < josuah> The load average makes an average of the number of tasks waiting to be run: much better indicator than "is it on or is it off"
13:44 < josuah> sorry if that is not what you asked :S maybe you perfectly now that and asked for the actual number ^_^'
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15:07 < GnarledHorn> ... ignore me
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20:39 < ericl> A few years ago, when I conttributing as a porter, I would consult a website that would list packages that were out of date. It wasn't always completely correct, but it was useful. I am having trouble re-disovering that site. Any recommendations?
20:41 < phy1729> https://portroach.openbsd.org/  ?
20:41 < ericl> Not sure if this is what I used, but looks like it will help a lot, thanks.
20:46 < gnucode> I think it would be interesting to try out ladybird on OpenBSD
20:48 < fro> so try it
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21:14 < a1fa> MMDVMHost compiles on OpenBSD
21:16 < fro> ok
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21:17 < fro> was it not supposed to or something?
21:18 < fro> i don't get it
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21:26 < ssm_> anyone know a way to host a SIP server on openbsd, if it's possible at all?
21:26 < ssm_> there's a sip client library in the form of pjsip, but that's all I found
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21:31 < fro> asterisk?
21:32 < ssm_> fro: thanks, this looks promising 
21:33 < fro> i've never used it
21:33 < fro> it's just what comes to mind
21:33 < ssm_> was running `find /usr/ports -type f -name DESCR -exec grep -li sip {} +` and wasn't finding much
21:34 < sibiria> ssm_: asterisk is what you want
21:35 < ssm_> yeah, was worried I'd have to set up a whole linux vm or something
21:37 < sibiria> asterisk runs fine on openbsd. though i'd suggest you build your own. the package is a bit of a personalized odd-ball from the maintainer
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21:55 < a1fa> so i have an old i386 box running 7.0
21:55 < a1fa> i need to bump it to 7.3
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21:55 < a1fa> only 1GB of disk space
21:56 < a1fa> hw.model=Geode(TM) Integrated Processor by AMD PCS ("AuthenticAMD" 586-class)
22:02 < Erhard> 1GB free should be enough, no?
22:02 < Erhard> Or it's 1GB total?
22:03 < Lucas6023> yea, seems manageable even whole amd64 sets
22:03 < Erhard> If you need more space perhaps you could mount a USB stick or something to hold the downloaded files?
22:04 < Lucas6023> it will require some extra work during the update
22:04 < Lucas6023> but yes, that also works
22:04 < Erhard> Ifyou know where the auto updater stores the files you could mount the USB stick over that directory perhaps.
22:05 < Erhard> So as to not require extra work.
22:05  * Erhard shrugs
22:05 < Lucas6023> yes, it requires touching the auto updater
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22:17 < a1fa> how do you set date/time in the installer
22:17 < a1fa> or tell installer to ignore tls errors?
22:18 < Lucas6023> at the prompt, enter "!" to drop into a shell
22:18 < Lucas6023> then run `date 202308032215`
22:18 < Lucas6023> or the right time of the day
22:19 < Lucas6023> then run `exit` and you're back where you were in the installer
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22:20 < a1fa> TLS handshake failure: certificate verification failed: certificate has expired
22:21 < oldlaptop> There's always the possibility that the certificate has expired
22:21 < a1fa> i just checked from another box
22:21 < a1fa> it's ftp.openbsd.org
22:23 < tommyrot> cert is good
22:23 < a1fa> yeah
22:24 < a1fa>         add_hostent 129.128.5.191 ftp.openbsd.org
22:25 < Lucas6023> and is your time good, too?
22:25 < a1fa> yep
22:25 < a1fa> i thought it was bad
22:25 < a1fa> it's dead on
22:25 < oldlaptop> ftp.openbsd.org does not resolve to that address here
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22:27 < a1fa> everything is well now
22:27 < a1fa> somehow that  installer script had that ip
22:27 < a1fa>  /exec whois 129.128.5.191
22:27 < tommyrot> user error!
22:27 < a1fa> 22:27:42 OrgName:        University of Alberta
22:28 < a1fa> i thought it was Theo's old basement ip
22:28 < oldlaptop> round-robin DNS stuff, perhaps?
22:30 < a1fa> who knows.
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22:30 < a1fa> so i want to stop installing 7.0, and just go with the 7.3
22:30 < a1fa> can i replace the 7.0 rd with 7.3 rd 
22:31 < a1fa> and do installboot wd0
22:31 < a1fa> reboot into bsd.rd, and do a manul install ?
22:31 < a1fa> i am very space limited, so i need to do ftp | tar | rm -f
22:33 < oldlaptop> https://cvsweb.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/distrib/miniroot/install.sub.diff?r1=1.1190&r2=1.1191
22:34 < a1fa> old's cool
22:34 < oldlaptop> https://ftplist2.openbsd.org/ is indeed expired here
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22:37 < a1fa> boot> stty com0 38400
22:37 < a1fa> yay
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22:38 < a1fa>   a:          1856.1M               64  4.2BSD   2048 16384     1 # /
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22:51 < a1fa> -x*
22:51 < a1fa> should fit on 1GB cf
22:51 < sibiria> no
22:51 < a1fa> no?
22:51 < a1fa> base >1G?
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22:51 < sibiria> x is just 370-ish mb. /usr is 1.6g
22:51 < a1fa> or you just messing with me
22:51 < a1fa> yike
22:52 < sibiria> it's been a looong time since openbsd fit on 1gb
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22:52 < a1fa> i dont want to spend $16 on a CF :)
22:52 < a1fa> usb boot?
22:53 < sibiria> alternative: spend $2 on an IDE-to-SATA adapter
22:53 < a1fa> no place to put a drive
22:53 < a1fa> it's alix
22:53 < sibiria> maybe fuguita will boot on alix. not sure
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22:55 < a1fa> Relinking to create unique kernel...
22:55 < a1fa> ..two days later...
22:55 < thrig> freebsd make world took two weeks on an i386 33/sx
22:56 < sibiria> there are SD-to-CF adapters. should turn those two days into three days
22:56 < sibiria> but it's a functional last resort
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23:03 < a1fa> i need to compile something for i386 on amd64
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23:04 < a1fa> is that possible, or do i need those libraries also?
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23:05 < a1fa> i also need to disable reordering of ld.so
23:05 < a1fa> -_X
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23:09 < a1fa> sibiria: /dev/wd0a      1.8G    749M    954M    44%    /
23:10 < a1fa> i guess it's a 2GB cf card _-_
23:10 < a1fa> it says 1GB on it
23:10 < a1fa> h^5
23:10 < a1fa> now the funny part is.. it fit
23:11 < a1fa> but even so, she fit on 749M
23:13 < a1fa> rcctl disable library_aslr
23:14 < thrig> aslr is kinda slow on potatoes
23:14 < a1fa> very
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