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00:29 < riceandbeans> It's eluding me at the moment, but could someone remind me some things that pf cannot block, in terms of packets
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00:36 < a1fa> uftdi0 at uhub1 port 2 configuration 1 interface 0 "FTDI FT230X Basic UART" rev 2.00/10.00 addr 2
00:36 < a1fa> what dev is this
00:37 < a1fa> what device that is?
00:37 < a1fa> how can i tell what dev it m apped to?
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00:39 < a1fa>  /dev/cuaU0
00:40 < a1fa> but how do you tell?
00:40 < a1fa> ucom0 at uftdi0 portno 1
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00:56 < dlg> riceandbeans: non-ip packets
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04:40 < brocashelm> i keep having an issue with xfce's whisker menu taking forever to open up (some d-bus delay)
04:40 < brocashelm> and when i press the power button, instead of xfce4's session dialog, it shuts down the system
04:41 < brocashelm> i also never see swap getting used, while memory continues to get consumed (htop and vmstat used to check)
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04:41 < brocashelm> how do i keep xfce from slowing down/lagging as the system stays on?
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06:52 < CosmicDJ> any idea why this crontab entry 'tar -zcf /tmp/backup_$(date '+%Y%m%d').tgz -I /root/backup.lst &&
06:52 < CosmicDJ> chown me: /tmp/backup_$(date '+%Y%m%d').tgz' would error with "/bin/sh: no closing quote"?
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06:56 < IcePic> CosmicDJ: I dont have a decent font but perhaps one of the ' is a ´ instead or something?
06:56 < IcePic> I think the +%xxx could work fine without quotes, so that would be what I would try first
06:57 < IcePic> "can't have missing closing quotes if you have no starting quotes" ;)
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07:02 < CosmicDJ> IcePic: it runs fine when I copy+paste the line into a #!/bin/sh script
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07:03 < CosmicDJ> IcePic: running date without '' works indeed, I'll try that. Thanks :)
07:04 < IcePic> I get if one wants to be defensive and quote anything that might look suspicious, but in this case it should work fine without
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07:12 < quinq> 'tar -zcf /tmp/backup_$(date '+%Y%m%d').tgz -I /root/backup.lst
07:12 < quinq> You're clearly missing closing the very first quote
07:13 < CosmicDJ> 'tar ...' those quotes are not part of the crontab entry
07:13 < quinq> erf
07:14 < quinq> Makes it easy to debug ;p
07:15 < CosmicDJ> it's kinda hard to seperate code from text here, but yes using single quotes was a bad choice :(
07:15 < quinq> In any case, for most cron command that have shell language in there, I'd recommend running a script instead, less error-prone
07:16 < IcePic> what quinq said
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07:22 < leah> https://downfall.page/
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07:23 < leah> ^ spectre/meltdown-like thing
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07:26 < pardis> oops, I forgot to look surprised
07:28 < CosmicDJ> it's '30      4       *       *       *       -ns /root/mail_backup.sh' now :)
07:29 < pony> rip vps
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07:30 < CosmicDJ> unless your VPS is running on ARM CPUs...
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07:39 < leah> apparently it affects avx
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07:41 < leah> so disabling avx may be a useful security mitigation
07:41 < quinq> CosmicDJ, perfect ;)
07:42 < leah> obsd already disables smt
07:43 < leah> intel released a microcode update to mitigate it but there are some EOL processors that intel no longer updates for
07:43 < leah> such as haswell/broadwell CPUs, some of which have AVX
07:46 < quinq> Stop buying Intel
07:48 < leah> that too
07:49 < leah> most single-user machines will be vulnerable to things like this from javascript running in the browser
07:49 < leah> so using something like noscript seems wise
07:50  * IcePic forces whole family to go amd cpus and amd gpus, and it works out fine
07:51 < IcePic> dont want to sponsor intel nor nvidia even if kids dont care about spectres, x11 drivers or whatever
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07:54 < leah> well i run a project that targets a lot of intel machines
07:54 < leah> amd and arm machines also targeted
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07:55 < leah> though, i tell people to avoid most modern intel platforms anyway, but for another reason
07:56 < leah> https://libreboot.org/ is the project - and currently i'm not interested on intel side, in anything past haswell/broadwell
07:57 < leah> because anything past haswell/broadwell needs binary blobs for raminit, so it's kinda pointless
07:57 < leah> when that changes, i'll start caring about newer platforms
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10:21 < z3bra> I just added an entry to my /etc/hosts, but I cannot resolve it locally. Is there anything I should do to get it to work ?
10:21 < z3bra> printf 'fc00::3:1 auth.local' >> /etc/hosts
10:22 < z3bra> $ host auth.local
10:22 < z3bra> Host auth.local not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
10:22 < sibiria> host -6?
10:22 < sibiria> any change?
10:22 < z3bra> ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
10:23 < z3bra> (my nameservers are ipv4 only)
10:23 < z3bra> it's like the hosts file isn't taken into account
10:23 < z3bra> however resolution works for "localhost" (both v4 and v6)
10:24 < z3bra> however, `getent hosts auth.local` works
10:25 < z3bra> I tried adding "lookup file bind" to /etc/resolv.conf, but it didn't change anything
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10:31 < z3bra> ok that's weird. "localhost" resolution works because my DNS provides an answer for it
10:33 < z3bra> If I stop "resolvd" and remove the nameservers from /etc/resolv.conf, I cannot resolve "localhost" anymore…
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10:37 < tercaL> z3bra: in your /etc/hosts file, no localhost entry?
10:37 < tercaL> also a line like "lookup file bind" in /etc/resolv.conf?
10:38 < z3bra> $ cat /etc/hosts
10:38 < z3bra> 127.0.0.1       localhost
10:38 < z3bra> ::1             localhost
10:38 < z3bra> fc00::3:1       auth.local
10:38 < z3bra> and yeah I have "lookup file bind" in /etc/resolv.conf (I even tried to have only "lookup file")
10:40 < z3bra> (resolvd puts it after my DHCP DNS though)
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10:41 < z3bra> I have neither /etc/hosts.allow nor /etc/hosts.deny present on this system
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10:43 < z3bra> fuck me
10:44 < z3bra> /etc/hosts was chmod 640
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10:45 < ivdsangen> then the next question is, how did that came to be?
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10:45 < z3bra> that's my fault :)
10:46 < z3bra> I install it using a config management system, and a bad copy/paste lead to this
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10:48 < ivdsangen> ah, glad its fixed
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13:07 < a1fa> o/
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13:10 < a1fa> ugh..  does anyone have issues with firefox chrashing when you resize the window
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13:12 < kremlin1> moin
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13:13 < a1fa>  so far, dragging the bottom left corner
13:14 < a1fa> crash it
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13:17 < a1fa> double clicking drag = crahs
13:17 < a1fa> crash
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13:19 < a1fa> same as left corner
13:19 < a1fa> eerrr right corner
13:19 < a1fa> bottom right ;(
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14:11 < Guest62> Hi, I have 300GB of files I want to move from OpenBSD to Linux but all the Linux and OpenBSD compatible filesystems that can also read/write like ExFAT and NTFS need user space drivers, this slows data transfer, right? I checked and it transfered about 30G in about an hour. Is there some other way that I'm missing that I could use to transfer them
14:11 < Guest62> faster?
14:11 < sibiria> ext2
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14:11 < avemestr> scp?
14:12 < sibiria> ssh is pretty sluggish on transfers for some reason. http would be a quicker choice. i'd just go for ext2
14:12 < Guest62> ah okay I'll try out ext2, forgot about that. I used rsync by the way, I guess that might have contributed to slowness as well maybe, I'll try cp then
14:12 < Guest62> I'm not transfering over a network
14:12 < sibiria> rsync should definitely be faster than anything ssh
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14:12 < sibiria> but give ext2 and direct file copy a try
14:12 < Guest62> alright, thank you
14:14 < tommyrot> depends on your hardware, i transfer 100mb/s+ over ssh all the time on a gbit nic
14:14 < Guest62> I'm just using an SSD that's connected directly, nothing going over the network
14:16 < IcePic> I think ssh/scp/sftp (and stuff like rsync over ssh) suffers from that the crypto stuff in ssh will chop up the traffic into blocks and possibly have less outstanding un-acked packets in-flight than TCP would possibly allow, so even if you have 100G ethernet, ssh-based things may slow it down just because the sliding window algos become different when you run traffic over it
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14:17 < tommyrot> is this theory or trash hw?
14:17 < sibiria> neither
14:17 < tommyrot> not everyone dumpster-dives their computers
14:17 < sibiria> it's ssh
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14:29 < dansimon> Hi, I'm trying to limit my code to only write to /dev/stdout, but unveil("/dev", "w") doesn't do the trick.., any suggestions?
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14:31 < dansimon> Oobs! My bad, I made a pledge before the unveil, it needed to be the other way around ;)
14:31 < phy1729> Why are you writing to /dev/stdout and not FD 1?
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14:33 < dansimon> phy1729: well, isn't that the same thing?
14:33 < dansimon> I'm just trying to harden the code so it cannot write to anything but standard out.
14:33 < phy1729> So don't unveil anything and pledge stdio
14:34 < dansimon> phy1729: Ah! So that does the same thing, I thought stdio could write to files in the filesystem.
14:35 < phy1729> stdio can write to open file descriptors but you need rpath or wpath to open new fds
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14:35 < dansimon> phy1729: Right! Ingenious :D
14:36 < phy1729> (yes yes you in the back or inet or unix because sockets and dns is special cased too)
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14:39 < sibiria> lavaball: how goes?
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19:06 < chakuari> hi everybody
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19:36 < topcat001> a quick nfs mount is quite fast over local network. On my local Gbit ethernet Linux<->OpenBSD can easily do 500Mb/s or higher. I think Linux<->Linux can go to 800+.
19:36 < topcat001> also so easy
19:39 < thrig> until nfs falls over and debugging turns a trifle hairy
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19:44 < oldlaptop> what do you expect, they named it the nightmare file system after all
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19:45 < topcat001> I use it a lot and never had an issue with simple stuff. I don't try to fiddle with the advanced stuff too much though.
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19:45 < CosmicDJ> we killed a bunch of nfs mounts years ago when a VM mistakenly got the NFS server IP adress...
19:46 < topcat001> well, one can always break anything
19:46 < thrig> or some other sysadmin setup a rat's nest of cross-mounted automounts that mostly work, until they do not
19:46 < njn> nfs can be sniffed though, right?
19:47 < phy1729> It depends. You can in theory run sec=kerb5p but I don't know that I've ever seen that in practice.
19:47 < topcat001> keep in mind this is my private home network for my own stuff
19:47 < thrig> NFS4 (which openbsd tends not to support) can be kerberosed
19:48 < thrig> or you could run it over wireguard or something
19:48 < topcat001> I have actually tried it over wireguard; performance is very good
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19:49 < topcat001> It works well for my very specific use cases is all I claim :)
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20:24 < Bradipo> If I have HISTFILE set when I start the shell (e.g. in .kshrc) and then while in the shell, I unset HISTFILE, should I expect ksh to stop writing to that file?
20:25 < Bradipo> It does stop writing to HISTFILE if I set HISTFILE=/dev/null, but it seems to keep writing to HISTFILE if I just "unset HISTFILE"
20:26 < Bradipo> Maybe I should do: HISTFILE=/dev/null; unset HISTFILE
20:28 < vhns> Bradipo: as per the manpage (haven't tested myself: "Note: If HISTFILE isn't set, no history file is used. This is different from the original Korn shell, which uses $HOME/.sh_history."
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20:33 < CosmicDJ> Bradipo: looks like hist_init() is only called when starting ksh http://bxr.su/OpenBSD/bin/ksh/history.c#811
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23:38 < AlaskanEmily> Are there specific times when fts or dirent should be preferred to the other?
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23:51 < thrig> fts is probably more portable
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