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05:57 < hd1> from install73..img, where would I find the tarballs to hand to the installer? I'm trying to install on an eeePC
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06:51 < nmdv> the tarballs are in 7.3/<archname>
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06:55 < hd1> hmm... don't have that tree, it seems
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07:24 < pardis> did you tell the installer the disk is already mounted? and if so, have you mounted it?
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07:27 < hd1> so the tarballs are not on the USB key, pardis?
07:27 < pardis> they are
07:28 < pardis> if you did indeed get install73.img, that is
07:30 < hd1> pardis: may need to try again then
07:31 < pardis> but did you tell the installer the disk is mounted without mounting it?
07:31 < pardis> that is the most common cause of getting stuck at this point in the installer
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07:36 < hd1> on install73.img, is there a special incantation I need to use to access the 7.3 tarballs?
07:39 < pardis> you just need to answer the installer's questions accurately
07:40 < hd1> why can't I see the tarballs if I CTRL-C out of the installer?
07:41 < pardis> I don't suppose asking a third time if you've mounted the disk with the sets would help
07:42 < hd1> you said installer73.img contains the tarballs?
07:42 < pardis> install73.img, yes
07:43 < hd1> I boot off the key of install73.img prepared using dd
07:43 < pardis> right, but have you mounted that disk?
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07:43 < hd1> if I boot off it, should it not be mounted as "/"?
07:44 < pardis> not in general, no
07:44 < pardis> and not in this case
07:44 < IcePic> perhaps hd1 needs to know that when you boot of installxx.img, you are "only" booting the bsd.rd on it, and the filesystem you see is a small ramdisk. Then you mount the img file system
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07:44 < hd1> IcePic: where do I find the img file system?
07:45 < hd1> that's making some more sense, IcePic
07:45 < pardis> it will typically be an sd(4) device for a USB stick
07:45 < pardis> but you don't need to find it manually
07:45 < pardis> if you tell the installer it isn't mounted, it will usually choose the right one by default
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07:48 < xjl> mine is usually /dev/sd1i
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07:49 < hd1> pardis: it doesn't though :(
07:49 < hd1> that is precisely the issue
07:50 < pardis> so when the installer asked if the disk with the sets is mounted, you answered "no"?
07:50 < pardis> what did it do after that?
07:51 < xjl> maybe they didn't download the image that included the sets, if they got that far...
07:52 < hd1> pardis: let me try running the install again
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07:54 < xjl> who are all these people in here?
07:54 < xjl> Developers?
07:54 < xjl> People that use OpenBSD?
07:55 < IcePic> people with some kind of interest in obsd I guess
07:55 < xjl> That's a LOT of people
07:55 < xjl> so that's good.
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07:56 < xjl> Maybe they are talking to one another.
07:56 < pardis> possibly some NSA agents also
07:57 < xjl> haha. Just trying to find out who is using tit?
07:57 < xjl> *it
07:57 < pardis> OpenBSD occasionally attracts nutters who think its "security" will help them do... things of a certain nature
07:58 < xjl> Or are they telling the developers what they need to do
07:58 < pardis> wouldn't be surprised if somebody wants to monitor those kinds of messages
07:59 < xjl> oh. so people of interest. .
07:59 < xjl> Everyone a suspect.
07:59 < xjl> Must be a scary life.
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08:00 < xjl> Is anyone here just because they like OpenBSD? maybe.
08:00 < hd1> to install 7.3 on an eee 1005HE, I get the i386 image?
08:00 < hd1> xjl: that's why I'm here
08:01 < IcePic> xjl: I would not be surprised if some people that mainly like net or freebsd hang here also, just to see what goes on over at this camp
08:01 < xjl> It looks like i386 yes.
08:02 < hd1> xji: many thanks
08:03 < xjl> it's about what the processor supports though? .. just reading that that is 32-bit.
08:03 < xjl> yeah, maybe just to log the chats...
08:04 < IcePic> all x86s boot in real mode, then 32bit (i386) flips to "protected mode" in the bootblocks and goes on to the kernel like that, whereas x86_64 cpus instead go to "long mode" and runs 64bit from there
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08:05 < IcePic> if you try the 64bit installer on a non-64bit capable system, it will get to the bootblock and then crash or freeze
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08:07 < xjl> what are those?
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08:08 < xjl> It looked like the Asus Eee 1005HE might be some Atom processor.  but there are different options.
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08:09 < IcePic> most all of the EEEs I saw were small, cheap, slow and low-power. They would not put a 64bit capable cpu in there unless they absolutely had to. 
08:09 < xjl> real mode. protected mode. long mode.
08:09 < hd1> it's an ATOM processor
08:09 < IcePic> xjl: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_mode
08:09 < hd1> now I get "ERR M"
08:10 < IcePic> ERR M  https://daemonforums.org/showthread.php?t=9277
08:11 < xjl> is this booting from the hard drive or the installation media?
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08:11 < xjl> the USB?
08:11 < xjl> maybe it has a partial install on the hard drive, and not booting from the USB
08:12 < xjl> boot from the USB and try to install it again.. but make sure it's the image that includes the file sets ?
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08:14 < xjl> https://cdn.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/7.3/i386/install73.img   yeah?  or cd: https://cdn.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/7.3/i386/cd73.iso
08:15 < xjl> does Rufus work with the ISO? lol.. I'm used to just using a CD.
08:15 < xjl> the question I guess is, are you getting the same error without the USB plugged in.
08:15 < hd1> ok...... booting into installer now
08:16 < xjl> ok
08:18 < xjl> I used to hear about real mode... protected mode... having to do with drivers... early versions of windows.
08:19 < xjl> something changed in a version somewhere around 6.8... before that it ran much faster on older laptops I had.
08:21 < xjl> Still like the idea of OpenBSD having a browser.
08:21 < carneous> n
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08:22 < xjl> oh, maybe they missed it. Does anyone have any of the old installation media ?
08:23 < xjl> actually, it was fast on 6.3...
08:24 < hd1> Location of sets is "disk", it's not already mounted (right?)
08:24 < xjl> the correct option should be already selected
08:24 < xjl> if it says disk, try it
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08:25 < xjl> it should be mounted already.. from what I've done, I haven't had to manually mount it to find the file sets
08:25 < hd1> xjl: ok...
08:26 < xjl> then it goes into the checkboxes... listing the filesets.. with the x's
08:27 < xjl> like the bsd.. kernels.. man stuff... games.. X11...
08:27 < xjl> are you seeing the list?
08:29 < hd1> pathname to sets does not exist :(
08:30 < xjl> what image did you put on the USB?
08:30 < xjl> floppy? lol.. or the miniroot?
08:30 < hd1> install73.img from https://cdn.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/7.3/i386/install73.img
08:31 < PappGaborSandor> the installer doesn't automatically mount the usb
08:31 < xjl> oh. I usually just use CD.. so listen to pappi
08:32 < xjl> I was next going to ask which drive was partitioned...
08:33 < xjl> so what? CTRL+C to shell and mount the USB somewhere, then run the setup script again? .. or was it install.
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08:35 < PappGaborSandor> I would just restart the process
08:35 < hd1> _+
08:35 < xjl> I think this was a restart.
08:36 < xjl> How does it get mounted then... if it isn't automatically
08:36 < xjl> I mean how would restarting mount it, if it didn't do it this time
08:37 < PappGaborSandor> You have to select the option
08:37 < PappGaborSandor> The installer asks if you select disk
08:37 < xjl> got it... and there's a list next to it?
08:38 < PappGaborSandor> something like that
08:38 < xjl> wd0... sd1...
08:38 < xjl> so then you'd type what is shown as the option
08:39 < hd1> sd0's the only one that's shown
08:39 < pardis> the installer does automatically mount it, but only after you tell it it's not already mounted
08:39 < pardis> and then you have to choose the right disk
08:39 < pardis> if it's only showing you sd0, that's probably the disk with your sets
08:40 < xjl> yeah type sd0 then... but that's scary because I think of that one as being the hard drive you're trying to install to.
08:40 < pardis> you could confirm by looking in dmesg or mounting it from the shell and looking at what's on it
08:40 < pardis> but the installer almost always gets it right
08:40 < xjl> yeah.. the installer is really solid.
08:40 < hd1> I don't see my hard drive though
08:41 < pardis> the installer will omit the disk you chose to install to from the list of options for the sets
08:41 < hd1> in theory, this box has a 300+Gb HDD drive
08:41 < pardis> it doesn't make any sense to get the sets from the disk you're installing to
08:41 < xjl> lol..
08:41 < xjl> yeah.
08:41 < hd1> it still should show on dmesg, right?
08:41 < pardis> yes
08:41 < xjl> so then I may have been on to something.. when I was asking which drive got partitioned
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08:42 < hd1> it doesn't
08:42 < xjl> can't find the file sets because they've been wiped out. haha
08:42 < pardis> then how did you choose a root disk earlier in the install process?
08:42 < pardis> you can't partition a root disk that doesn't exist
08:43 < hd1> sd0, which seems to be the USB key
08:43 < xjl> right.
08:43 < xjl> lol
08:43 < pardis> oh, weird that the installer is giving you the option of using that to get the sets then
08:43 < xjl> so the issue is that it's not detecting the internal disk
08:43 < pardis> do you have RAID enabled in BIOS or something?
08:43 < pardis> sometimes that causes the OpenBSD kernel not to see the disk
08:43 < xjl> yeah... what about UEFI
08:44 < xjl> should be set on Legacy... SATA...   does AHCI matter?
08:44 < xjl> not UEFI? not RAID... Not AHCI..?
08:44 < pardis> sysctl hw.disknames will also show all your disks
08:44 < pardis> you don't need to set it to legacy boot
08:45 < pardis> just make sure you don't have some magic RAID thing enabled
08:45 < hd1> that's odd
08:46 < hd1> Primary IDE Master [Not Detected]
08:46 < hd1> Primary IDE Slave [Not Detected]
08:46 < xjl> tada
08:47 < pardis> IDE disks will show up as wd(4) devices, not sd(4)
08:47 < xjl> hd1 .. is that from BIOS?
08:48 < hd1> yes
08:48 < xjl> haha. well where did it go?
08:48 < xjl> did it get taken out and used for something else
08:49 < xjl> is it not pushed/plugged in all the way?
08:49 < xjl> is it just too old and went bad...?
08:50 < hd1> I don't bloody know
08:50 < hd1> but this is weird :(
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08:51 < xjl> https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Asus+Eee+PC+1005HA+Hard+Drive+Replacement/7834
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08:52 < xjl> doesn't look like it would have come out very easily if it did.
08:54 < xjl> well, there is fuguita... if you are just wanting to try it.
08:55 < xjl> Cool concept..
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08:56 < xjl> It'll just boot off of the USB drive. https://fuguita.org/
08:56 < xjl> but.
08:56 < xjl> BUT
08:57 < xjl> slow.
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09:04 < xjl> thanks all for the discussion. anyone has any old discs let me know.. or the song discs
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11:30 < Guestmodinfo12> hi
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11:48 < acidfoo> is there something like "net.ipv4.tcp_keepalive_time" (linux) on openbsd, to control the "CLOSE_WAIT" time of a socket ?
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11:51 < sibiria> you can tune some of it, for some cases, with pf
11:51 < sibiria> man pf.conf and search for "set timeout"
11:54 < acidfoo> ah, ok will check with pf, thanks
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11:58 < tommyrot> sysctl net.inet.tcp
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12:14 < PappGaborSandor> What irc client do y'all use?
12:14 < mg> weechat
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12:16 < sibiria> irssi and limechat (macOS)
12:18 < xmszkn> weechat
12:18 < sibiria> weechat and hexchat are the most popular GUI ones these days
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12:19 < PappGaborSandor> Alright, thanks
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12:36 < il> weechat is gui?
12:37 < eea> only use irssi myself, ans yes weechat is GUI
12:41 < avemestr> I'd say weechat has a TUI.
12:42 < il> ncurses is TUI
12:42 < il> weechat uses ncurses
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12:46 < sibiria> it's slightly more convenient than irssi
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13:00 < pardis> quassel
13:01 < acidfoo> PappGaborSandor: irssi
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13:07 < il> more convenient doesn't correlate with GUI, plenty of incovnenient GUI programs
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13:36 < pardis> weechat does have GUI options: https://weechat.org/about/interfaces/
13:36 < pardis> so it really depends on exactly what you're talking about
13:40 < il> touché
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15:28 < moviuro> hello! can pf enforce multiple max-src-conn-rate? E.g. 10/3600 + 30/28800? (The idea being to blacklist bruteforcers and slow bruteforcers)
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15:36 < quinq> moviuro, try it :>
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15:39 < moviuro> state option 'max-src-conn-rate' multiple definitions; syntax errors, etc. <- not really a good outlook
15:42 < CosmicDJ> moviuro: I thought the slow part is done with altq qos?
15:44 < moviuro> pass in quick log proto tcp to (self) port ssh keep state (max 100, max-src-conn 5, max-src-conn-rate 30/21600, overload <bruteforce> flush global)
15:45 < Bradipo> moviuro: Why would you expect it to interpret your pf.conf in any other way than as documented?
15:45 < quinq> moviuro, I was rather thinking about match
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15:47 < moviuro> Bradipo: maybe my understanding of the documentation was flawed, and there are workarounds?
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15:49 < Bradipo> Well, I don't see how there can be.  You want the same src/dst match to somehow have different application based upon the rate of connections that is observed?
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15:52 < moviuro> I must have missed a word or two. I'd like to overload my table when src reaches either of two (or more) max-src-conn-rate (e.g. 10/3600 or 30/28800)
15:53 < moviuro> there doesn't seem to be a syntax for that, and if I use multiple rules (a copy of the one I pasted) with different max-src-conn-rates, how would counting towards either limit work?
15:53 < Bradipo> Does pf.conf(5) man page suggest this is possible?
15:54 < Bradipo> If you have 2 rules, the last match wins.
15:54 < Bradipo> And I don't believe that traffic rates are part of the matching algorithm.
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17:56 < aaronm04> be1m0nt: from reading the man page, I feel like your only hope is the "append" keyword. https://man.openbsd.org/relayd.conf.5#append
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17:57 < aaronm04> Other than than, I don't see a way to add/change/remove HTTP headers, only matching on them
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18:01 < aaronm04> Oh wait, maybe "set" would work as well
18:01 < aaronm04> https://man.openbsd.org/relayd.conf.5#set
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18:05 < aaronm04> Hmm, from re-reading what you wrote, it seems like you know what to do
18:06 < xse> be1m0nt aaronm04: i never managed to do it, you can conditionally set/append request headers easily, for response headers i don't understand how it works. If i conditionally set/append response headers i end up with two different headers with the same key and the "remove" option doesn't seem to work on headers like that
18:08 < aaronm04> That's unfortunate. You might need a separate proxy program then
18:10 < aaronm04> This could also be a bug report for relayd
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18:12 < xse> like you can set a specific response header conditionally, but you can't rewrite one that already exist or something
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18:16 < xse> i'm not sure if that's by design, the [option] part of the manual list several options some of them clearly don't apply to headers so maybe it implies headers can't be removed
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18:18 < aaronm04> It should at least be in the man page IMHO
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18:37 < be1m0nt> aaronm04: xse thanks for additional ideas, i'll take a look at append. only other idea i could come up with was splitting requests for the individual domains into different ports and then setting up individual relay and protocol blocks for each.
18:37 < be1m0nt> i had some trouble getting that to work earlier today, may take a stab at it later on
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18:41 < aaronm04> When I first read your question, I missed that the header you wanted to add was for the response, not the request. Based on what xse said, I think if the server is not responding with its own CSP headers, this will work
18:42 < aaronm04> Let us know how it goes :)
18:42 < thrig> and might break horribly if the server ever does kick back the header
18:42 < xse> it won't, like it will if you just wanna add CSP conditionally, but if you have a "global" CSP already there it won't
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18:47 < xse> the 'match response +FILTER header set/append "csp" ..' will conflict with the global 'match response header set/append "csp" ..' and you end up with two "csp" headers
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19:11 < be1m0nt> I'm using httpd as server, so no CSP added there. trying to use the approach xse mentioned, but I can't seem to *match* on the *request* (using the host) and then *set* on the CSP *response* -- the syntax seems like you can only operate on either request or response on a given line, unless im missing something obvious.
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19:12 < be1m0nt> i found a reddit thread from a few months ago asking a similar question: https://t.ly/EPLD0
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19:17 < xse> be1m0nt: use tags + url matches with an end / like if you look in the manual they match in a specific way
19:18 < xse> match request url "foo.bar.org/" tag "WOOF"
19:18 < xse> match response tagged "WOOF" header set "foo" value "bar"
19:19 < xse> ( https://man.openbsd.org/relayd.conf.5#url )
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19:23 < Guestmodinfo12> hi
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19:27 < be1m0nt> xse: brilliant, tags seem to work correctly :)
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19:29 < aaronm04> Hooray!
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19:30 < be1m0nt> xse: and aaronm04 thanks for the discussion.
19:30 < be1m0nt> happy to get this sorted
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21:43 < nmdv> do you guys  know of any OpenBSD releases archive? All the mirrors I have checked so far have at most 2 or 3 available. I am looking for 4.8 to 5.0 on i386
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21:43 < phy1729> https://ftp.eu.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/
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21:44 < quinq> eu da best
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21:47 < nmdv> cool since 2.0! computershhop.ca stil lists 2.1 CD sets but the requested price is interesting to say the least [http://computershop.ca/cgi-bin/eStore]
21:47 < nmdv> thanks
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22:51 < nmdv> any similar mirror but for port distfiles? That would be amazing if anyone hosts all those files somewhere in the world
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22:52 < nmdv> eu.openbsd.org hosts packages, but (from what I understand) not all ports were distributable via FTP 
22:56 < armin> PING ftp.eu.openbsd.org(2a09:d400:0:1::94 (2a09:d400:0:1::94)) 56 data bytes
22:56 < armin> ^C
22:56 < armin> --- ftp.eu.openbsd.org ping statistics ---
22:56 < armin> 14 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 13176ms
22:56 < armin> ipv6 broken?
22:57 < armin> yup, ipv6 broken.
22:59 < thrig> or they block echo requests
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22:59 < armin> on a public ftp distribution server? while ipv4 ping works? that would be insanely weird.
23:07 < thrig> that telnet -6 ... 21 don't work while it does over v4 does point to a v6 problem
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