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02:47 < SOLARIS_s> hmmm
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03:10 < SOLARIS_s> what does everybody think of that r/o hammer
03:17 < fro> you mean the one that's going to be deleted later
03:17 < fro> i don't know why everything keeps bringing it up
03:18 < thrig> obviously anything involving "hammer time" "can't be touched"
03:19 < fro> excuse me not deleted but abandoned
03:19 < fro> same thing tho
03:19 < fro> point is
03:19 < fro> it's a waste of time to talk about
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04:40 < et09> if i have some arbitrary web app (let's say nodejs) that gets invoked behind nginx typically (e.g. proxy_pass), what is the model for this, with nginx inside a chroot
04:40 < et09> im inclined to just serve static files instead for this case
04:40 < et09> in a linux setup i might use docker but's not an option 
04:42 < thrig> what would docker be for, and how is a "model" involved?
04:42 < et09> model, structure, setup
04:42 < et09> how would i have nginx proxy requests to a running nodejs app
04:43 < et09> can i have the nodejs app bind to localhost/port 8080 and have nginx hit that despite being in a chroot
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04:43 < thrig> sure?
04:47 < et09> just trying to figure out how this is approached here
04:48 < thrig> probably with fewer abstractions and additional layers
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05:51 < V-T60> Hello. Does vmd only work well with virtualization features on my CPU?
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06:42 < IcePic> V-T60: the virtualization framework vmm only works if your cpu has virtualization support, yes. (also, only x86_64)
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07:30 < avemestr> et09: You could use relayd (included in base) in front of your node.js application.
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07:37 < myappie> et09: check out my article for a practical example: https://medium.com/@brucedandbattered/openbsd-vs-docker-and-linux-deploying-ruby-on-rails-in-production-320c90bcb934
07:38 < myappie> just switch out puma with node. but since you use node, you might as well just use rails since it too uses node.
07:39 < avemestr> Or use Go and avoid a lot of headaches :D
07:42 < myappie> avemestr: that's a low-level language for OS and CLI apps
07:43 < avemestr> myappie: Sooo, that's why there's a net/http package in the standard library. Got it.
07:44 < myappie> there is no option better than rails currently
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07:47 < avemestr> There's https://learnbchs.org/ of course.
07:48 < myappie> interesting.
07:49 < myappie> keeping traditions alive. in the real world it sounds highly impractical.
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07:51 < myappie> those are the kind of people i'm trying to convince to come over to rails. rails needs more bsd people :|
07:52 < myappie> avemestr: saying it has net/http is like getting mad at your grandma for not surfing the internet using curl
07:54 < avemestr> You're off the Rails.
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07:59 < myappie> hehe
08:00 < myappie> today i swear bsdports.org will be up!
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08:23 < ninjin> Is there any way to easily forward e-mails that have already arrived using mail(1)? I have read the man page and I am not seeing it at least.
08:23 < ninjin> The situation I am in is that I did not configure smtpd(8) for about a month and now I would like to lift the backlog over to my main machine for record keeping.
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08:38 < avemestr> ninjin: Might be a very wrong suggestion, but perhaps just copy the contents of mbox to the other machine?
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08:38 < ninjin> avemestr: Sounds like a decent strategy to me and I feel somewhat foolish for not thinking of it. Thanks, perhaps it was tunnel vision all along.
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09:18 < ninjin> Thanks again avemestr. I have them in my inbox now after a bit of a struggle with mb2md.pl, which I abandoned in favour of mb2md (the Python variant) which actually worked.
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13:19 < nature> Is the format of the ouptut of ifconfig scan always the same? Does the first few lines always are the same? I want to know how I can get just the lines with the found networks from the scan 
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13:27 < Lucas6023> nature: it's quite stable, so `grep '^^I^Inwid '` should do the work. Mind that `^I` isn't that a caret followed by I, but a literal Tab char. You can input it in the terminal by pressing Ctrl-V followed by Tab or Ctrl-I.
13:27 < Lucas6023> also the double caret at the beginning isn't a mistake, neither.
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15:05 < et09> thanks myappie, will read ... did rails for years but def simpler to just use node hah 
15:05 < et09> and in this case it's something that's already built out
15:05 < et09> albeit small 
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15:17 < nature> Thanks Lucas6023 !
15:18 < nature> Now I am wondering if there is a description somewhere of the "feature flags" in the ifconfig scan command?
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15:35 < et09> hmm, postfix installed by default but not opensmtpd? 
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15:57 < pardis> no, there is no postfix by default, and there is smtpd (technically, opensmtpd is derived from OpenBSD's smtpd, not the other way around)
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16:06 < et09> whoops, wrong server
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19:53 < oldfashionedcow> Hi - I'm playing about with a few bsd's, but i'm curious about dhcp client idenifer (option 61) - so far, i've failed quite miserably a sending the string "12345678@foo|12345678". My current attemps include in /etc/hostname.bge0 the following: dhcp -i "12345678@foo|12345678", as well as dhcp send dhcp-client-identifier "12345678@foo|12345678", but neither seems to work. Any tips?
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19:56 < kn> oldfashionedcow: where do you got the idea from? that won't work at all.
19:56 < oldfashionedcow> kn: which idea specifically?
19:57 < kn> hostname.if(5) does not document -i for "dhcp", which is a mere alias for "inet autoconf"
19:57 < oldfashionedcow> OH i've been looking at the wrong manual page (specifically dhclient)
19:57 < oldfashionedcow> ty kn, i'll look for the correc one
19:58 < kn> even dhclient's -i does something different, i think
19:58 < kn> anyways, dhclient just execs dhcpleased these days which currently has no way to send a client identifier
19:59 < oldfashionedcow> Ah, so i might be out of luck hen
19:59 < kn> if you need that, try dhcpcd(8) from the net/dhcpcd port/packagggge
19:59 < kn> (stuck key)
19:59 < oldfashionedcow> np, ty
19:59 < kn> or work on a dhcpleased patch  ;)
19:59 < thrig> man dhcpleased.conf | grep client
20:00 < oldfashionedcow> oh, it appears there is a way
20:00  * oldfashionedcow has a read
20:00 < kn> oh hey, no i'm talking bollocks:      send client id client-id
20:00 < oldfashionedcow> heh yea, lemme give that a try
20:02 < oldfashionedcow> Back in a minute
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21:33 < oldfashionedcow> Generic question, Those of you running openbsd on your desktops, whats it like?
21:34 < thrig> it's a desktop
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21:35 < oldfashionedcow> heh thrig i was more talking about things such as graphics drivers and the like
21:35 < oldfashionedcow> (just curious)
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21:36 < thrig> not much graphics driver is needed to run some xterms
21:36 < oldfashionedcow> lmao, fair fair
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