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00:01 < sibiria> reticuli: it's a known scanner, no different than censys or shodan
00:01 < sibiria> just ignore it
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00:02 < reticuli> Thanks. Also is there a reliable site that can help ensure that I don't have any ports open?
00:03 < oldfashionedcow> I mean you could just tether from your phone and nmap
00:03 < reticuli> true
00:03 < oldfashionedcow> Thats how i did it, until i sold my phone
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00:03 < reticuli> although do wireless carriers filter or flag portscans?
00:04 < oldfashionedcow> i wouldnt think so
00:04 < sibiria> a lot of them do
00:04 < vortexx> villehardouin: su on linux using bash also gives USER=youruser
00:04 < sibiria> get you a VPS and scan from there
00:04 < vortexx> su - is how you get the root env
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00:04 < reticuli> maybe even a free tier AWS should do it
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00:05 < vortexx> villehardouin: OpenBSD doesn't provide as many virtual terminals by default, and yes X doesn't start on the 7th or even first terminal
00:06 < reticuli> seems my robovac produced a bunch of these: `block in on vlan50: 192.168.50.101.56131 > 192.168.50.255.58866: udp 79 (DF)` any idea what these might be? .255 is broadcast right?
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00:07 < reticuli> looks like it's from this rule: block in log quick inet from $iot:network to { $wifi:network $desktop:network $guest:network $iot:network }
00:08 < oldfashionedcow> I'm aware theo de ratt's opinons on secure boot, and most likely extending to measured boot, but what are the thoughts of it here?
00:08 < sibiria> reticuli: the last address in the network is broadcast. that may not always be .255 since networks are class-less these days
00:10 < sibiria> i'm guessing your network is a common /24, in which case it will be .255
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00:10 < reticuli> yes it si
00:10 < reticuli> s/si/is/
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00:11 < reticuli> anyway, I hope this chinese robovac isn't doing anything suspiscious 
00:11 < thrig> lots of things spam the network
00:11 < sibiria> it's chinese, so don't be surprised
00:11 < reticuli> is it an arp request
00:12 < thrig> at some point you use tcpdump or wireshark if interested
00:12 < reticuli> it seemed to have stopped, maybe it knows I'm watching it =)
00:12 < sibiria> probably looking to comms with chinese mothership
00:13 < reticuli> some "weather balloon"
00:14 < reticuli> geting a pcap
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00:15 < reticuli> Never knew about termshark. Very cool.
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00:19 < reticuli> Looks to be just UDP packets sent every 5 seconds it's subnet's broadcast address on port 58866.
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00:19 < reticuli> s/it's/on it's/
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04:03 < d93> whats the difference between pkg_add -u and pkg_add -Uu ?
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04:08 < lts> man pkg_add
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04:19 < d93> Yes but why does updating dependencies first change anything? -u also updates dependencies
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04:36 < dennis> d93: the way I read it, -U is meant to be used when installing new packages, and makes sure you update any already installed dependencies (if required) before installing the new package.
04:37 < dennis> while -u is meant to update a specific (or all) already installed package(s)
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04:40 < d93> Thanks dennis that makes a lot more sense
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06:28 < jscript> why do file systems use "inodes" ? as https://github.com/clsk/hfs-freebsd/blob/master/darwin/xnu/bsd/hfs/hfs_link.c is complicated to understand
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06:30 < thrig> some filesystems don't
06:31 < jscript> o.o
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06:37 < jscript> i want to understand how HFS+ directory hard link's work and how they are implemented in comparison to unix hardlinks and unix symlinks (eg what additional stuff is required for such implementation support and how would such be implemented)
06:38 < CosmicDJ> and you ask this in #openbsd because ... ?
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06:39 < jscript> because its based on bds ?
06:39 < jscript> bsd*
06:39 < CosmicDJ> HFS is only used by Apple
06:40 < jscript> qwq
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06:42 < AmyMalik> HFS is for the classic macintosh
06:42 < mischief> jscript: i'd suggest reading a book on the topic such as https://archive.org/details/designimplementa0000unse/, see page 194
06:46 < CosmicDJ> there's also a Mac OS X Internals book
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13:15 < reticuli> perhaps a dumb question but is there a git mirror for openbsd with branches/tags that track the cvs branches?
13:17 < jcs> no
13:18 < yjya> good morning 
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13:31 < Voyager_MP> Any clue on how to centralizing pflog over a network ? 
13:32 < Voyager_MP> Tryed vxlan with bridging, but the bridge does not take the pflog0 dev
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13:37 < IcePic> tcpdump pflog|logger, and centralize syslogs?
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13:44 < Voyager_MP> that would work ? 
13:46 < renaud> I don't understand the idea for the changes from MASTER_SITES to SITES
13:47 < renaud> this seems a huge work for a very small gain
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13:47 < renaud> 7 bytes less per port...
13:47 < renaud> or am I missing something?
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13:48 < Voyager_MP> tcpdump -o -s 160 -n -e -ttt -i pflog0 action block | logger 
13:48 < Voyager_MP> no does not work 
13:48 < reticuli> building a new firewall/router with 500GB SSD and 16GB of RAM. Currently only running wg, unbound, dhcpd. Anything else interesting I could run to take advantage of the mem/disk, like some sort of caching?
13:48 < Lucas6023> they dropped MASTER_SITES[0-9] (a hardcoded, limited version) for SITES.suffix (maybe, haven't checked the latest commits), where .suffix is dynamic.
13:49 < Lucas6023> the maybe refers to SITES vs MASTER_SITES
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13:50 < renaud> thanks Lucas6023 
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13:51 < Lucas6023> in particular, that allows for non-hardcoded support for GitLab, Gitea, Codeberg, GitHub
13:52 < Lucas6023> while previously only GitHub was supported (maybe GitLab too; not sure)
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13:57 < Lucas6023> or Cabal (for Haskell), and I think that even the modules.inc for Go and Rust can be replace by that syntax
13:58 < Lucas6023> it's a reasonable refactor imo
13:58 < Lucas6023> things might be more clear after the hackathon, as lot of work is going on in ports since Sunday
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14:06 < Lucas6023> renaud: oh, I just checked the commit you're talking about. Well, I guess that they want to make SITES an internal-only variable. But as I said, a lot of work is going on and too fast, so it's difficult to tell for sure not being inside the hackathon.
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14:08 < Lucas6023> actually, I didn't check the ports@ email about it. :p
14:08 < Lucas6023> scratch all that I said
14:08 < Lucas6023> shorter name
14:09 < Lucas6023> I agree, kinda pointless. Would have preferred a shorter name for CONFIGURE_ARGS in that case
14:09 < Lucas6023> as that's the var that usually pushes everything one tab further away for alignment
14:09 < Lucas6023> and PERMIT_PACKAGES
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14:24 < nature> What are simple ways to create an interactive menu in the terminal, beside a numbered list with a readline?
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14:25 < Lucas6023> is that related to OpenBSD?
14:25 < IcePic> nature: The shell "select" is decent for simple lists, the port "dialog" for making fancier textUI menus
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14:26 < nature> got it thank you IcePic 
14:27 < IcePic> "select choice in abort exit retry ; do echo $choice ; done"
14:27 < nature> Lucas6023: I guess it's more UNIX related, but the "OpenBSD way" is usually what I try to follow
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14:50 < vortexx> reticuli: squid as a caching proxy perhaps?
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18:58 < el> save
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19:42 < armin> nature: there's the "dialog" program in the openbsd repositories that you can install.
19:43 < armin> nature: people build whole distribution installers using that thing.
19:44 < villehardouin> How do I install a 'ports' package? I want nvim but OpenBSD says 'Can't find nvim'
19:44 < armin> villehardouin: it's called "neovim" i believe?
19:44 < villehardouin> Derp!!! thnx
19:44 < armin> np :)
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19:55 < Lucas6023> villehardouin: `pkg_info -Q smth` searchs for all the packages that have "smth" in the package name
19:56 < Lucas6023> in this case, `pkg_info -Q vim` shows vim, neovim and a bunch other stuff
20:04 < thrig> or there's pkglocate
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20:12 < CosmicDJ> or https://openbsd.app
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20:19 < Foxy_> villehardouin: to install Neovim port, doas pkg_add -v neovim (current version = 0.9.1)
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