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00:24 < vortexx> mischief: care to share your hostname.veb0 and whatever else is needed for using veb+em+vport with vport NAT'd ? I'm quite curious to try this out to see if I get a speed boost at all
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01:32 < mischief> vortexx: it's in my ansible repo, but i can share the generated files too if you prefer.
01:35 < mischief> http://ix.io/4Fzt
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01:40 < vortexx> pf really is slowing down the box, I'm losing 100Mbps in speed
01:40 < vortexx> maybe time to refactor pf.conf
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02:03 < mybalzitch> is it a 486?
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02:22 < reticuli> dx2 66
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02:28 < vortexx> mybalzitch: an APU2B
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04:19 < Bradipo> It seems it is not possible to use queue with authpf?
04:19 < Bradipo> When I try, I get: must not have queue definitions in an anchor
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04:19 < Bradipo> If I put the definitions in /etc/pf.conf, when I try to reference the queue in authpf.rules, I get: authpf.rules:2: queue internet is not defined
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08:59 < nature> Hi, on iridium (chromium) I get the "prefers-reduced-motion" activated by default and there is no way to force disable it from the browser, most of the solutions online say that you should disable it at the OS level, and I tried to set "gtk-enable-animations = true" in my gtk settings, but without results... Is there something I am missing?
09:00 < nature> You can test wether it's enabled/disabled here: https://jsfiddle.net/justmaxl/2cwqry3p
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13:44 < armin> http://paste.debian.net/plain/1291265 i can't install krita/gimp due to some gcc-libs dependency but i'm not sure how i ended up here. happy for any pointers.
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13:53 < Lucas6023> armin: try a `pkg_add -u` first
13:54 < Lucas6023> any reason why you're using `-r`?
13:54 < Lucas6023> also, are you running -current?
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13:57 < armin> Lucas6023: looks like you spot the pkg_add newbie here. :)
13:57 < Lucas6023> ok, `-r` isn't required for normal usage
13:57 < armin> ok :)
13:57 < armin> i don't think i'm running -current, no.
13:58 < armin> Lucas6023: excuse my lack of experience, i'm new here. :)
13:58 < yjya> good morning openbsd
13:59 < Lucas6023> armin: does `sysctl kern.version` say "current" anywhere?
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14:01 < renaud> current$ sysctl kern.version
14:01 < renaud> kern.version=OpenBSD 7.3-current (GENERIC.MP) #1324: Mon Jul 31 14:48:11 MDT 2023 deraadt@amd64.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC.MP
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14:03 < renaud> Lucas6023: sorry, I missed the armin:, I thought you were asking
14:03 < Lucas6023> eww, Jul 31 isn't very current
14:03 < Lucas6023> ^^
14:03 < renaud> true
14:03 < renaud> strange, I did a sysupgrade not so far away
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14:18 < Bradipo> Not sure if anyone saw my question previously.  Is it possible to restrict bandwidth usage when using authpf?  It seems it isn't possible to use any "queue" statements in authpf.rules.
14:19 < Bradipo> I know I can use "set queue X" at the end of an anchor statement, but that restricts every authenticated user to the same.  What I'm looking for is the ability to set per account restrictions.
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14:23 < IcePic> give people a wireguard tunnel each, then you can speed limit on the wg interface per user
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14:31 < Bradipo> Yeah, that's one way to accomplish it...
14:31 < Bradipo> Seems a bit strange to wg on a LAN though.
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14:32 < Bradipo> I suppose I could take a crack at hacking the authpf code (assuming it can be solved there).
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14:43 < armin> Lucas6023: kern.version=OpenBSD 7.3 (GENERIC.MP) #3: Tue Jul 25 08:20:26 MDT 2023 root@syspatch-73-amd64.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC.MP
14:44 < armin> renaud: sorry for the confusion. :)
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14:44 < pardis> Bradipo: would having ordinary pf rules with a user match work for you?
14:45 < armin> IcePic: the speed limit idea is actually cool. :)
14:45 < Bradipo> I was wondering about a user match...
14:45 < Bradipo> Does the user have to login to the firewall?  How is the  user identified?
14:46 < Bradipo> Seems that the "user" keyword is for local accounts making network connections from the firewall, not via the firewall (ip forwarding).
14:47 < Bradipo> I suppose I could write my own authentication gateway too.
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14:51 < IcePic> Bradipo: "via" would mean there has to be a fully trustworthy method of asking a remote computer who sent a packet
14:51 < IcePic> user in pf is indeed either local user creating outwards traffic, or an answering daemons userid for incoming packets
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14:57 < babouille> "This rule only applies to packets of sockets owned by the specified user"
14:57 < Bradipo> Yep.
14:57 < babouille> https://man.openbsd.org/pf.conf#user
14:57 < Bradipo> That's why "user" won't work in this scenario.
14:57 < Bradipo> wg would but that's a lot of setup just for a "queue".
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14:58 < Bradipo> Nothing in the pf.conf manual suggests that queue cannot be used in anchors, yet when I try, it fails with an error that queue cannot be used in anchors. :-)
14:58 < dayid> interesting, I definitely would've expected it to work with them.
14:59 < dayid> Can you use the anchor to set a label and apply the queue based on label? (first thought out my head - not sure if it would make sense)
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15:01 < Bradipo> Hmm, so have a label applied in authpf.rules that then gets picked up by a rule in the main pf.conf?
15:01 < dayid> that's my _theory_
15:01 < Bradipo> Well, it's something to try.  I've tried a bunch of other options, so this is worth a shot.
15:01 < dayid> I'm going to try it here myself in a moment just it's an interesting situation
15:02 < Bradipo> Yes, seems like it should be something that one would want to do.  If I have per-user authpf.rules, why not also queue their packets differently?
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15:08 < dayid> Seems like it is working.
15:09 < dayid> I have an authpf that sets label "darkstat" so I can access darkstat from my work VPN. I just added a queue for that and did a `match log label darkstat set queue darkstattest` and in `doas systat -Nhi -s2 queues` I'm seeing the stat react with PKTS/BYTES/DROP_P/DROP_B _seemingly_ appropriately.
15:10 < IcePic> yeah, tagging it a good idea, then use that later for "effects"
15:11 < Bradipo> I assume when authpf exits it will tear down the label...
15:11 < Bradipo> I'll give it a try later when I can and let you know.  Thanks for the idea.
15:11 < Bradipo> I haven't use labels very much at all so I hadn't thought of it.
15:12 < dayid> IDK about "tear down that label" - I don't know much "underneath" for PF but I don't think labels exists in the same manner as like tables/other things. I get the feeling a label only exists from the time it's added to/parsed and then it's just gone
15:12 < dayid> Now the queue on the otherhand would remain regardless of the authpf being there, since it's a queue created in my main pf.conf
15:13 < Bradipo> Right, the queue can remain.
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15:14 < Bradipo> Nothing will use it unless authpf is authenticated and the label created.
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15:17 < pardis> Bradipo: oh, okay, I misunderstood what authpf does then, sorry
15:17 < Bradipo> No problem.
15:18 < Bradipo> authpf just allows you to inject rules into pf when a user logs into it.
15:19 < Bradipo> The shell does not give them any actual access, it just "sleeps" forever until the client disconnects.
15:19 < Bradipo> While in this state, the firewall has whatever rules were established in the authpf.rules for that user.  And when disconnected, it removes those rules.
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15:22 < pardis> I got that from the man page, I just thought "user" referred to a local user
15:22 < Bradipo> Well, it is a local user, but only for the purpose of running the authpf shell.
15:23 < Bradipo> Oh, I see, you mean an actual local user using a real shell making TCP/IP connections.
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19:22 < myappie> https://medium.com/@brucedandbattered/openbsd-vs-docker-and-linux-deploying-ruby-on-rails-in-production-320c90bcb934 -- anything i should add or remove?
19:23 < myappie> gonna add more illustrations of puffy with girls later on
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19:37 < dayid> myappie: The article reads like you're trying to sell something. I'm used editing on wikipedia where I'd expect a lot of ref[1]'s to support some of the generalizations made, but otherwise - meh
19:38 < dayid> Maybe an offset notion, but IMHO you'd be better not trying to compare things that are significantly different without references and perhaps tables highlighting all the differences. I think it would better serve to just have a "here's how to do this on openbsd" article :shrug
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19:40 < myappie> :thinking_face:
19:41 < dayid> Naturallyy though I come from perhaps not your audience, having already made such choices :)
19:42 < myappie> hehe
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19:44 < Bradipo> What is it with "modern" websites that make their fonts huge and difficult to read?
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19:45 < thrig> a problem lacked by w3m
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19:49 < Lucas6023> armin: did you have any luck?
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20:24 < armin> Lucas6023: not yet, no, but I'm looking into that - still will need a bit more time
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20:26 < aaronm04> "In turn, the OpenBSD community would benefit from the influx of Rails developers, leading to even better software being written."
20:26 < aaronm04> Needs explanation
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20:26 < aaronm04> Or removal
20:29 < vortexx> I'm trying to setup synapse on 7.3, the VM is inside my LAN. Do I need to run relayd / nginx as a reverse proxy on my firewall/router? I have nginx running as the reverse proxy on the synapse VM and I can connect locally but not from outside the firewall
20:31 < vortexx> (I did the portforwarding for IPv4 and just a passthrough for IPv6 but this was not enough)
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20:34 < chakuari> hi
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20:35 < Bradipo> vortexx: I didn't do it on a VM, but I did have to configure relayd.
20:35 < Bradipo> I did not use nginx.
20:37 < vortexx> Bradipo: ok, let me try relayd example from the synapse pkg-readme (I know next to nothing about relayd)
20:37 < Bradipo> relayd works when you can get it figured out. :-)
20:37 < Bradipo> Sometimes the documentation is a bit spartan.
20:38  * Bradipo wonders how far his relayd.conf strayed from the pkg-readme.
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20:45 < Bradipo> vortexx: My relayd.conf is mostly identical to the one in pkg-readme.
20:45 < Bradipo> I do have 4 additional lines that I put in.
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20:47 < Bradipo> vortexx: These are the additional lines: http://paste.tclers.tk/5855?v=raw
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20:56 < vortexx> Bradipo: thanks, do you add those at the top or the bottom of the file?
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20:59 < Bradipo> Oh sorry, they go in the http protcol section.
21:00 < Bradipo> protocol.
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21:02 < vortexx> oh right, thanks
21:02 < vortexx> brb going to test
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21:06 < vortexx> didn't work, sigh
21:06 < vortexx> not seeing any incoming traffic from my phone, weird
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22:38 < emmanuelux> hi, wireguard specialist here ? I got internet lost one hour some hours ago and I got in wireguard : last handshake >20000s, and i needed to destroy wg0 on bothside to get it restart, so do I need a crontab script to check connection lost, destroy wg0 (x2) and restart if nothing better ?  hopefully it is the 2nd time I see this in mounths (it is a CGNAT connection, 5G, ports "stucked" after lost internet ?)
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22:42 < obcecado> hi emmanuelux 
22:42 < obcecado> i've had that behaviour as well
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22:43 < obcecado> usually i just remove the peer (ifconfig wg0 -wgpeer xxx) and add it back (ifconfig wg0 wgpeer xxx)
22:43 < obcecado> i haven't bothered to report or debug it any further
22:45 < obcecado> it has happened with openwrt 22.03.05 and opnsense as guests. server is openbsd -current
22:45 < emmanuelux> thx obcecado , it is better if it works, i will test for the next time (if i remember)
22:45 < obcecado> tbh, i'd expect the wgkpa setting to clear the source ip from the last connection
22:46 < obcecado> instead of having a huge last handshake counter
22:51 < emmanuelux> i thought of a CGNAT bahevior, i have other pb with ssh port forwarding that sometimes block one port
22:53 < obcecado> that is not the case on my experience, it happens on plain public ipv4 networks
22:55 < emmanuelux> obcecado, good to know thx
22:55 < obcecado> try setting the wg0 in debug mode and check whether the traffic is arriving properly. in my case every x seconds the peer id is increased
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22:55 < obcecado> eventually, it'll work without intervention
22:55 < obcecado> but it may take a long time
22:55 < obcecado> 1+ hour
22:55 < emmanuelux> >20000s here
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22:57 < emmanuelux> it is strange because, it is only the 2nd time it happens, i dont know the debug mode, and I didnt see any log of wireguard
22:58 < obcecado> basically i had written above what information i'd gather to report that on bugs@ :-)
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22:59 < obcecado> i've a few clients still on the road, but i'm counting on simulating it on a lab, and reporting it properly soonish
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23:01 < obcecado> is your scenario all based on openbsd?
23:02 < emmanuelux> really ? you worked on it recently ? I see some comments in google but not so many to think it will be repaired
23:03 < emmanuelux> two openbsd wg0 yes
23:03 < emmanuelux> vps amsterdam one side
23:03 < emmanuelux> and cgnat 5g other side
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23:48 < dlg> emmanuelux: i had a problem like that
23:48 < dlg> do you have keepalives set?
23:48 < thrig> the RFC for an "oh, oh, oh, oh, stayin' alive" bit was rejected
23:50 < obcecado> i also have that problem, and have keepalives set
23:50 < dlg> what time are you using for keepalives?
23:50 < obcecado> 25
23:51 < dlg> might be the thing i had then
23:51 < dlg> so pf does NAT using states
23:51 < dlg> and the timeout for udp states is 90 seconds iirc
23:51 < dlg> so your computer sending wg keepalives is matching the pf state
23:51 < dlg> which gets NATted to the old addresses
23:51 < dlg> and keeps the state alive
23:51 < dlg> my workaround was to have the computer behind nat send keepalives every 2 or 5 minutes
23:52 < obcecado> hmm, i havent thought of that. so setting a lower timeout for that rule may help
23:52 < dlg> but have the computer on the public IP send them every 25 seconds or so
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23:52 < obcecado> oh, i only have keepalive set on the roadwarriors
23:52 < obcecado> not on the server
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23:52 < dlg> same, but i switched it around a bit because of this problem
23:53 < emmanuelux> dlg, yes keepalive set but i needed it cause I am behing a CGNAT router (android phone 5g)
23:54 < obcecado> thank you for the hint dlg, i'll tune that timeout and see how stable things are
23:54 < emmanuelux> 25s
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23:58 < emmanuelux> dlg, i have the same pb with autossh with portforwarding
23:58 < emmanuelux> i use autossh -M 0 -o "ServerAliveInterval 30" -o "ServerAliveCountMax 3"
23:58 < emmanuelux> so the pb seems the same
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