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01:01 < tercaL> In my PF.conf, I got:   int_services = "{www, https}"    and    out_services = "{domain, ntp, www, https, 587}"  allowed.. 
01:01 < tercaL> And then, I've also a 'rdr' line like this; rdr pass on $ext_if inet proto tcp from any to ($ext_if:0) port 2244 -> 10.1.1.2 port 22 - and the port: 2244 is open publicly, although it isn't in the list of allowed int_services and out_services. Is this a normal behavious? Does "rdr pass" surpass the ports blockage and directly open the defined port to the Internet?
01:02 < tercaL> *behaviour
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08:33 < quinq> man, building ports still is…
08:33 < quinq> not very intuitive
08:33 < quinq> (unless done as root)
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08:38 < quinq> The FAQ is like a rabbit hole
08:38 < quinq> “Straightforward Installation: A Simple Example”
08:38 < quinq> The following commands assume you've configured PORTS_PRIVSEP as detailed in the bsd.port.mk manual.
08:38 < quinq> PORTS_PRIVSEP, ah?, let's see
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08:39 < quinq> If set to ‘Yes’, will build ports as BUILD_USER and fetch distfiles as FETCH_USER.
08:39 < quinq> shouldn't be too hard
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08:39 < quinq> Meant to use in concert with dpb(1), which uses the same permissions (see ‘THE SECURITY MODEL OF DPB’ in dpb(1)).
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08:39 < quinq> Ah, does that mean I actually should use dpb?
08:40 < quinq> But actually the simple example doesn't, so let's ignore that for now
08:40 < quinq> Basically, BUILD_USER must be able to write into ${WRKOBJDIR}, ${PACKAGE_REPOSITORY}, ${PLIST_REPOSITORY} and FETCH_USER must be able to write into ${DISTDIR}.
08:40 < quinq> humm
08:40 < quinq> The directories and permissions can be set correctly using fix-permissions.
08:40 < quinq> ah!
08:40 < quinq> Note that this also means that doas(1) must be configured to work within the chroot created by proot(1).
08:41 < quinq> wait, what, proot now?
08:42 < quinq> wth
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08:46 < quinq> the freaking thing just asks for my password in a loop
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08:52 < quinq> $ doas make
08:52 < quinq> at least that works :/
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09:04 < xjl> dad's home that's right he's home. dad's home.. lord of the manor.. hello hello.. king of the castle. hello
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10:29 < dbohdan[phone]> Does anyone know of a portable version of OpenBSD cron(8)? I want those sweet random ranges from https://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article;sid=20230507122935 on Linux and NetBSD. I have not found one. There isn't one listed in https://github.com/ligurio/awesome-openbsd#portable-openbsd-components.
10:32 < IcePic> seems linux crontab has tilde for random ranges too? https://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man5/crontab.5.html#:~:text=A%20random%20number%20within%20a,when%20crontab%20file%20is%20parsed.
10:32 < IcePic> perhaps doesn't works exactly the same, but .. similar at least
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10:37 < dbohdan[phone]> Neat. Thanks for pointing this out, since I wasn't aware of it. Looks like it's recent: added to cronie in 2022.
10:38 < dbohdan[phone]> This isn't in the version of cron that Debian and derivatives use by default
10:38 < IcePic> yeah, on various dists it is harder to figure out when it appears
10:41 < dbohdan[phone]> I've adopted http://fcron.free.fr/. I like it a lot, but OpenBSD cron is simpler and diverges less from standard crontab syntax.
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10:52 < dbohdan[phone]> Looks like cronie doesn't have a feature like `-n` (no mail on success) or `-s` (only run a single instance of the command)
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10:57 < IcePic> single-instance is really nuce
10:57 < IcePic> nice*
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11:06 < dbohdan[phone]> Yep
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13:10 < extrowerk> I just had a malloc related kernel crash (actually 2), and fsck complained about wrong block info. This was my fist time to do an fsck rescue/fix, but it works now.
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13:19 < IcePic> fun, now you can see if it is easy to replicate, and get a bug report done, and/or trying to find out the error and a fix!
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14:16 < avemestr> The opportunities are endless!
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15:50 < armin> dbohdan[phone]: i mean come on, what really helps is having a comment line in "crontab -e" that clearly indicates what column is what.
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17:55 < emmanuelux> hi is there a way to search text in systat ?
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17:59 < thrig> run it in tmux, and then
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18:11 < anthon4> Hi, I have a node.js app, I'm trying to create a rc.d script to be able to run it on startup, and using an unpriviledged system user.
18:11 < anthon4> I can start/stop manually, but it doesn't work on startup, the rc.d script is here: https://clbin.com/KoSeL
18:11 < anthon4> If someone can help me??
18:12 < zyxer> Hmm
18:13 < zyxer> anthon4: The flags is incorrect
18:13 < zyxer> flag is like, -f , not the file you want to run
18:14 < anthon4> I understand, the final command to run is 'node server.js' (being in /var/www/htdocs/saas/backend)
18:15 < anthon4> If I do `rcctl start|stop saas` manually, it works
18:15 < anthon4> Of course, I already add it on startup using `rcctl enable saas`
18:16 < zyxer> oh
18:16 < anthon4> At startup, If I do `dmesg -s` I see 'starting package daemons: nginx mongod saas.'
18:16 < anthon4> no error
18:16 < quinq> anthon4, you should log this javascript output to see why it bails out at startup
18:16 < IcePic> "manually" sounds like "then my $PATH is different from the rc environment"
18:16 < quinq> Maybe no network or something
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18:19 < zyxer> Yea network seems correct. server.js sounds like it needs network. You could try to set rc_reload=YES
18:20 < zyxer> If I am not mistaken that should make the daemon restart it if it crashes 
18:20 < zyxer> Or end
18:20 < anthon4> rc_reload is not more for reload config?
18:20 < anthon4> (after changes)
18:21 < zyxer> So it should restart when you boot up, no internet it stops, login and all initialised, then run properly
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18:22 < emmanuelux> thrig, thx but on copy mode in tmux, the search in only of the text visible
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18:22 < quinq> rc_reload is a user command, asking for the daemon to reload
18:23 < quinq> It's not a systemd-like that just spawns a broken daemon in a loop
18:23 < zyxer> Oh.. SOrry
18:23 < Lucas6023> zyxer: a server doesn't need external internet access. The network is always up before services starts. idk from where you get the idea of that rc_reload behaviour. rc.subr(8) says something way different.
18:23 < quinq> “The network is always up before services starts.” that depends on how you bring your interfaces up :)
18:24 < quinq> Ideally it should, yes
18:24 < Lucas6023> technically correct. Dammit, quinq!
18:24 < quinq> You can call me Janet
18:25 < Lucas6023> anthon4: your rc file looks alright. Only comment is that rc_* are usually put after sourcing rc.subr (the `. /etc/rc.d/rc.subr` line). I don't think that should influence the startup behaviour.
18:26 < zyxer> Yea I was completely mistaken '^_^
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18:27 < zyxer> Wait, so wifi internet should be running before daemons start?
18:27 < anthon4> internet is set before
18:28 < Lucas6023> the only exception is 'slaacd dhcpleased resolvd'
18:28 < zyxer> Damn, guess I just assumed it didn't since no other OS I used works like that, not even windows. 
18:28 < Lucas6023> those 3 start, and then a `sh /etc/netstart` is run
18:29 < Lucas6023> it's all in /etc/rc
18:29 < zyxer> And it waits for wifi connection before continuing? OpenBSD just gets better and better
18:29 < zyxer> or well, scans and checks if it can connect I guess
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18:31 < anthon4> and regarding the _app user creation, I did it using:  `useradd -s /sbin/nologin -d /var/_app -m -G www _app`
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18:35 < Lucas6023> all that looks alright. I have a small nodejs script set up exactly like that, and works fine in here.
18:36 < Lucas6023> I'd follow quinq's lead and make sure it logs stuff somewhere if it dies
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18:37 < quinq> You can set daemon_logger
18:43 < anthon4> and what if I use something like that? => nohup node server.js > my_log_file.log 2>&1 &
18:43 < quinq> What's your actual question?
18:44 < anthon4> Im unable to run my node.js app on startup
18:45 < quinq> Is that a question?
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18:47 < anthon4> how can I get it working on startup?
18:48 < quinq> You already asked that though
18:48 < quinq> I already made a suggestion
18:48 < quinq> 20:16:49  quinq$ anthon4, you should log this javascript output to see why it bails out at startup
18:48 < quinq> 20:37:36  quinq$ You can set daemon_logger
18:48 < quinq> Have you tried that?
18:50 < anthon4> Im trying it ...
18:52 < anthon4> using daemon_logger="daemon.info", if I run it manually, I can see the right message, it works. But on reboot, using `dmesg -s`, I see it starts saas without issue, but nothing in the log
18:53 < anthon4> in fact, it is not running
18:53 < anthon4> Im going to try to log with JS
18:55 < quinq> So it doesn't print anything on error
18:55 < anthon4> yep nothing
18:56 < anthon4> on server.js (there's a basic log that show 'server is running on 8080')
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18:56 < anthon4> I don't get this message
18:56 < anthon4> for me, it doesn't execute
18:56 < anthon4> on startup
18:57 < anthon4> the dmesg on startup: https://clbin.com/Drfaa
18:59 < anthon4> nothing in /var/log/daemon, except if I run it manually using `rcctl start saas`
18:59 < anthon4> really, I don't understand this behaviour...
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19:02 < quinq> The dmesg will not tell you much, what's important is what the javascript has to say (maybe nothing)
19:02 < thrig> at least they fixed the 'node leaks memory writing to console in a tight loop'
19:03 < quinq> haha?
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19:16 < olk> hey everyone, quick question: I want to encrypt the drive during the installation. can I store the key in a TPM 2.0 so I don't have to enter a passphrase on boot to unlock the drive? I doubt I can do that, but I thought it was worth asking
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19:21 < Lucas6023> olk: no, that's currently not possible
19:21 < olk> Lucas6023: got it, thanks
19:21 < Lucas6023> tbh, what's the use case for it? somehow someone managing to still your disk but not your computer?
19:22 < olk> I was also asking about charging thresholds on ThinkPad some time ago, do they work now? don't remember the answer someone told me couple of months ago
19:23 < Lucas6023> yes, that works, at least in my machine(tm)
19:23 < olk> great to know
19:23 < Lucas6023> it's undocumented tho
19:23 < Lucas6023> and only part of -current
19:23 < olk> there are two sysctl values for that iirc
19:23 < olk> right?
19:23 < Lucas6023> 3
19:24 < Lucas6023> hw.battery.charge{mode,start,stop}
19:24 < olk> someone sent me a link to marc.info, but I haven't saved it
19:25 < Lucas6023> you can try searching in the cvs list for those words
19:25 < olk> found it: https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-cvs&m=168436150408382
19:26 < xse> i've been using those start/stop since they were introduced, works great tho it's kinda hard having to guess which values are to be used and how often you should do a full 0-100 cycle
19:26 < xse> for thinkpads there's a reddit post somewhere with quotes from lenovo's battery team that gives 3 different start/stop values depending on usage
19:27 < olk> I just use 45/50 all the time unless I need to go somewhere tomorrow
19:27 < olk> *40/50
19:28 < xse> there it is https://www.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/comments/og5anr/til_battery_charging_thresholds_best_practices/
19:28 < olk> thanks
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20:13 < PyR3X> I'm getting a 503 with SHA256.sig running sysupgrade on -current
20:14 < thrig> is cloudflare still borked
20:15 < PyR3X> sysupgrade: Error retrieving https://cdn.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD//snapshots/amd64/SHA256.sig: 503 Service Unavailable
20:16 < PyR3X> leaseweb cdn works fine
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20:18 < thrig> whlep, the internets are broken
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20:29 < PyR3X> how can I determine why one of my rc scripts is failing?
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20:33 < xse> PyR3X: rcctl -d ... ?
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20:38 < quinq> xse, that's undocumented AFAICS
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20:39 < quinq> Hummm, it is in rc.d(8).
20:40 < PyR3X> I'm aware of rcctl -d but for some reason two scripts fail only on system startup. For example I made a copy of /etc/rc.d/httpd to /etc/rc.d/test and have different flags in /etc/rc.conf.local (test_flags=-f /etc/test.conf for example)
20:41 < PyR3X> running rcctl start test works fine but at boot it fails
20:41 < PyR3X> rcctl ls failed shows it along with another custom script I have for thelounge fails
20:41 < PyR3X> no doubt for different reasons
20:41 < jmcunx> PyR3X: is couldflare ever not broken :)  But I am getting the same for pkg_add, I am to lazy to change to another mirror, you can try another site
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20:44 < PyR3X> lol
20:46 < D0peX> manpages down :(
20:46 < xse> weird, and the original httpd doesn't fail ?
20:46 < xse> like just the copy does ? if that's the case i'd double check the differences between the two
20:47 < PyR3X> yes
20:47 < PyR3X> original httpd works fine
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20:53 < xse> eeh i have no clue, if i were you i'd do a few tests like with an unmodified copy and without flags, stuff like that just trying to pinpoint the issue a little bit more
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20:55 < oldlaptop> PyR3X: What happens during startup after httpd fails?
20:55 < xse> otherwise iirc rc is all shell scripts so it should not be that difficult to tweak /etc/rc a bit and get way more logs out of it like maybe "set -x" and redirect stderr
20:55 < oldlaptop> What shows up in logs when it fails?
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20:58 < PyR3X> oldlaptop: I'm not seeing anything in the logs oddly enough
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21:12 < oldlaptop> wow, the internets really are broked, man.openbsd.org is down too(?)
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21:15 < sibiria> Five Eyes Backbone september patch
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21:16 < thrig> brick all the syria routers
21:17 < magnahelix> heh
21:18 < quinq> It says Organization:   University of Toronto (UNIVER-36)
21:19 < quinq> Maybe somebody cut the americas submarine cable
21:19 < thrig> obviously a CIA front, nobody actually lives up there
21:19 < magnahelix> ^
21:20 < magnahelix> It's all just a made-up narrative. :P
21:20 < oldlaptop> https://openbsd.cs.toronto.edu/pub/OpenBSD/ is down too, so that would check out
21:20 < quinq> thrig, there under-sea?
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22:25 < D0peX> its not a network issue. you can ping the host
22:26 < D0peX> oh its up again
22:26 < D0peX> well, i could ping it when the site was down, anyway
22:26 < D0peX> yay
22:26 < D0peX> big
22:27 < D0peX> wrong channel
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