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03:11 < jfolker> Been trying to get Chicago95 to play nicely on OpenBSD+xfce, recreate the Win95 look. Kind of amazed sometimes at how badly "free" POSIX desktop environments suck.
03:12 < jfolker> It's as though CDE is as good as it's ever going to get.
03:14 < jfolker> https://lxqt-project.org/
03:14 < fro> ok
03:15 < jfolker> Someone finally picks a reasonable set of internals, but the end result looks like utter crap.
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03:17 < mybalzitch> suspicious quotes
03:17 < jfolker> All that effort just to look like a Linux distribution
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03:18 < fro> cool story bro
03:19 < lennox> very should blog it.
03:20 < jfolker> Yeah, then I could be like one of you. Maybe while I'm at it, I could buy a "gaming chair"
03:20 < fro> i don't know what a gaming chair is
03:20 < fro> but all you're doing is whining
03:32 < jfolker> Just got back from giving birth your twin, aka taking the browns to the super bowl
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03:33 < fro> boohoo
03:33 < fro> poor lil baby can't get software to work
03:33 < fro> and got called out for whining about it
03:33 < fro> now you're mad
03:33 < jfolker> Wow, you sound like a Linux user
03:34 < fro> i'm guessing you're not an adult
03:35 < jfolker> Lemme guess, you submit pull requests to systemd
03:35 < lts> Please go do this somewhere else
03:36 < phy1729> fro, jfolker: both of you knock it off
03:36 < fro> yeah because i'm doing something here
03:36 < fro> responding to this nonsense i guess
03:36 < jfolker> fro: binge-watching Rick and Morty?
03:37 < oldlaptop> fro: please do not feed trolls.
03:37 < oldlaptop> jfolker: trolling is not helpful.
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03:37 < fro> i love this both sides shit when someone responds to these morons
03:39 < jfolker> fro: Spoken like someone who pays money to give meaningless "super-upvotes" on reddit
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03:39 <@oldlaptop> Well, we're ready if he comes back.
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03:39 < fro> i guess
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03:40 < fro> y'all just let it go on but i'm supposed to not say anything
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03:40 < oldlaptop> fro: you realize "these morons" *want* someone to respond, right?
03:40 < oldlaptop> that's the whole point
03:40 < fro> i don't care
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03:40 < fro> and that's nonsense too
03:41 < fro> i'll deal with things in the way i see fit and if we don't agree then we don't agree
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08:02 < zyxer> Well, that last convo was very confusing to read. Although it definitely put me in a better mood since I had to use my remaining braincells to try and understand. Made me forget about my ISP changing my IP and all. Anyhow it seems I will have to rely on a VPS middle man for.. Well somewhat reliable email server. 
08:02 < zyxer> Anyone knows of a VPS provider that has OpenBSD as an alternative?
08:02 < zyxer> Most only let you run like ubuntu, fedora, or debian
08:03 < zyxer> And good reputation from the IP as to not be IP blocked when trying to send email 
08:05 < zyxer> Hetzner and glesys are good rep IP VPS providers but I don't know if they have OpenBSD alternative (just came home after night shift too tired to scrutinise those two and look up all). 
08:05 < zyxer> If anyone knows of others please mention them, if you feel like it. 
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08:13 < renaud> zyxer: vultr has OpenBSD
08:13 < renaud> I should even have a coupon code for you to try
08:14 < renaud> exoscale also
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08:15 < kado> i used to run openbsd on hetzner. if i remember, i had to open a trouble ticket to download a -current iso.
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08:16 < renaud> to be honest, there are a lot of providers on which OpenBSD will run fine, they just don't propose or support it
08:16 < kado> had to jump through similar hoops with cloudfanatic, previously known as servercheap.
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08:17 < renaud> kado: on those, I generally install an old debian/ubuntu, then dd miniroot on the disk, then force reboot and use a console to install
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08:17 < zyxer> Oh, ok, so most, or some at least, will run an OpenBSD image just that they don't support or recomend or talk about it? 
08:17 < zyxer> Interesting, good to know
08:17 < renaud> anyway, those who support OpenBSD generally have a very bad installation partitionning (eeverything in /), so that makes sense to reinstall.
08:18 < kado> vultr lets you upload a -current iso.
08:18 < zyxer> And thanks for the tips and info! I shall go to sleep now. Have a nice day to you ^_^
08:18 < renaud> vultr is probbaly the easiest
08:19 < renaud> although, you will need to request opening smtp port
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08:19 < zyxer> Ok, and is vulture good reputation? So others don't auto block my VPS middle man?
08:19 < zyxer> vultr*
08:20 < renaud> I have had no real issues with vultr
08:21 < renaud> but, there are plenty of providers on which the whole IP ranges are on blacklists (OVH comes to mind)
08:21 < renaud> aruba.it is on most blacklists too if you take a French IP
08:21 < renaud> but on other countries, it's fine
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08:22 < renaud> if you want to host mail, forget OVH
08:22 < renaud> well, at least, if you intend to send mails to outside :)
08:23 < renaud> in general, it's not that hard to get out of blacklists, but it takes quite some time, like 2 months
08:27 < al1r4d> zyxer vulter
08:27 < al1r4d> *vultr
08:28 < kado> renaud: yes, i think i had to install openbsd on top of linux VM on cloudfanatic. it's been a while.
08:30 < kado> to run a mail server, you need spf/dkim/dmarc. it's more painful than in the old days.
08:33 < norrland> I've been running obsd on both DO and Vultr. GleSYS has an ISO option for the VMware platform where you can install any* amd64 supported OS.
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08:37 < al1r4d> damn, i want to try openbsd, but the perfomance...
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08:43 < CosmicDJ> al1r4d: what about it?
08:43 < IcePic> CosmicDJ: "I type moar faster on QNX" ;)
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09:10 < renaud> norrland: the problem with DO, when I tried it, is that, if you use an unsupported OS, they might break your VM by changing things inside the image they think it is.
09:12 < __giovanni> renaud: exactly, they broke one of my VMs last month that way
09:13 < onebitboy> even if you upload the miniroot as custom image instead of starting with a linux image?
09:15 < __giovanni> onebitboy: I've never tried this way, I even do not know if this is possible actually
09:16 < onebitboy> i did that a while ago, worked fine
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09:46 < renaud> onebitboy: it was not possible when I tried it I think
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10:55 < Posterdati> hi
10:56 < Posterdati> please help, is it possible to use spi and i2c on raspberry pi 3b+ with openbsd 7.3? Thanks!
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11:19 < sibiria> Posterdati: you asked some time ago. yes, you can always speak to the hardware
11:19 < sibiria> but there might not be a convenient driver for it like there are in some cases for linux
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11:19 < IcePic> Posterdati: does the dmesg attach something like https://man.openbsd.org/gpioow.4
11:19 < anthon4> Hi guys, I'm still struggling with a rc.d script for a node.js app. I can start|stop|restart the app manually. But it doesn't work on reboot.
11:19 < anthon4> So I added some checks in this rc.d script, if someone can help me with this: https://pastebin.com/C6pUCxBY
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11:24 < anthon4> I also checked that _app user can run the app manually using `su -s /bin/ksh _app`, `cd the-app-path` and `node server.js`; it works
11:24 < anthon4> Really, I don't understand, why on startup, it doesn't work, no error message.
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11:30 < babouille> because it's not enabled ?
11:30 < anthon4> it is already enabled the rc.d script
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11:39 < renaud> it's enabled, since it's in the dmesg, but are you sure mongodb is already available at that time?
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11:42 < anthon4> yep, look the rc.d script, and the startup sequence
11:43 < sibiria> order of pkg_scripts items matters
11:43 < anthon4> this is in the good order, nginx => mongod => saas
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11:51 < renaud> you should maybe do something like "while $(mongo check is wrong); do sleep 1; done"
11:51 < renaud> no idea what the mongo check needs to be, I don't use mongodb anymore
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11:57 < Posterdati> sibiria: there aren't anmy i2c nor spi in dmesg
11:59 < sibiria> Posterdati: then there may not be a dedicated driver for it, but you can always speak directly to the hardware
12:00 < Posterdati> sibiria: ok
12:01 < sibiria> you can probably always use the raw gpio devices
12:01 < sibiria> gpioN
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12:10 < Posterdati> sibiria: mmmh, I enabled i2c_arm and spi in config.txt then rebooted
12:11 < Posterdati> sibiria: now in dmesg I've got iic0 and simplebus0 the latter is marked as "not configured"
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12:20 < renaud> cool, 7.4-beta still boots on Oracle cloud amd64
12:20 < renaud> arm64
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12:23 < sibiria> oh nice
12:23 < sibiria> they fixed it?
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12:24 < sibiria> i've actually been holding off on rebooting my 7.3 instance there, in fears it may suddenly no longer boot
12:24 < renaud> well, I was able to install -current 1 month ago or so
12:24 < sibiria> great
12:24 < renaud> and now, it seems it still works with -current of today
12:24 < renaud> but
12:25 < renaud> you need to disable viogpu at install, otherwise, the console will not be available
12:25 < renaud> I am not sure the console should be graphical on bsd.rd
12:25 < renaud> it's somewhat useless
12:27 < sibiria> did you migrate a pre-made install, or you got install kernel to boot thee?
12:27 < sibiria> there*
12:27 < sibiria> bsd.rd with their "Cloud Shell"
12:27 < sibiria> ?
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12:38 < renaud> the install kernel
12:38 < renaud> bsd.rd -c     ->  disable viogpu   ->  quit
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12:39 < renaud> I did "dd if=miniroot74.img of=/dev/sda" from an ubuntu minimal aarch64
12:40 < renaud> OpenBSD glorfindel.vcn02100929.oraclevcn.com 7.4 GENERIC#298 arm64
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12:41 < renaud> after the install, you can leave viogpu on, you won't have a console, but it boots
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12:42 < renaud> now, I should check if amd64 works too
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12:47 < renaud> amd64 seems stuck very early
12:48 < renaud> boot> 
12:48 < renaud> cannot open hd0a:/etc/random.seed: No such file or directory
12:48 < renaud> booting hd0a:/bsd: 3969732+1655808+3886664+0+708608 [109+444792+297347]=0xa766f0
12:48 < renaud> entry point at 0x1001000
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12:49 < renaud> ahh, it disn't boot bsd.rd
12:50 < renaud> booting hd0a:bsd.rd: open hd0a:bsd.rd: No such file or directory
12:50 < renaud> corrupt miniroot?
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12:58 < renaud> same on 2nd retry with a miniroot from another mirror
12:59 < sibiria> i've been wondering if they perhaps happen to have two different generations of their host setups running
13:00 < renaud> I saw some messages about "fixes" for Oracle cloud
13:00 < renaud> but I am also wondering if the -current miniroot is OK. THey don't seem to have bsd.rd
13:00 < renaud> for amd64
13:00 < babouille> I'd say the disk isn't called hd0 (PV driver?)
13:01 < renaud> it boots bsd from hd0
13:01 < renaud> but not bsd.rd
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13:09 < renaud> same miniroot on vmware also boots bsd, but goes to the installer
13:09 < renaud> strange as arm64 and amd64 on Oracle cloud had both the same problem
13:10 < renaud> by same, I mean, they both had the storage issue, not that incomplete boot
13:11 < renaud> even "boot bsd -c" doesn't go further
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13:17 < vortexx> renaud: do you have to input the tty com0 stuff on this instance?
13:17 < renaud> ahh, good one
13:17 < renaud> maybe I need to
13:17 < renaud> let me retry
13:17 < sibiria> give the cloud shell console a try
13:18 < sibiria> i never managed to get anywhere with it on -release/-stable, since it just kept crashing on bsd.rd
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13:19 < renaud> let me try with a "set tty com0"
13:20 < vortexx> don't forget to ajust the tty speed with stty com0 115200 or whatever the speed is 
13:24 < renaud> vortexx: that was it
13:24 < renaud> no need to disable viogpu
13:24 < sibiria> does bsd.rd survive boot then?
13:24 < sibiria> doesn't crash as soon as kernel starts enumerating vio*?
13:25 < sibiria> the bsd.rd in -current that is
13:25 < renaud> actullay, it boots the installer with bsd, not bsd.rd
13:25 < renaud> I am at (I)nstall, (U)pgrade, (A)utoinstall or (S)hell? without issues
13:26 < sibiria> nice
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13:27 < renaud> https://arnor.org/OpenBSD/oracle_cloud.txt
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13:29 < renaud> slower to install than on arm64
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13:32 < renaud> relinking takes ages
13:32 < sibiria> my amd64 instance is pretty snappy
13:33 < renaud> doesn't boot after install
13:33 < renaud> I am in the UEFI shell
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13:41 < renaud> I had set whole disk MBR instead of GPT
13:45 < vortexx> renaud: glad it worked for you!
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13:46 < renaud> it's not yet installed on amd64 :)
13:49 < renaud> now it's vooting with a GPT install instead of the MBR one
13:49 < renaud> s/vooting/booting/
13:52 < renaud> OpenBSD glorfindel.vcn02100929.oraclevcn.com 7.4 GENERIC.MP#1370 amd64
13:53 < sibiria> cool. great progress. as soon as 7.4 is out i can (finally) migrate my 7.3 setup
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13:54 < renaud> but you only have 1Gb free on amd64
13:54 < sibiria> mine is a mail server, 1 gb has been sufficient all along for it
13:55 < sibiria> but ideally i'd like to run it on aarch64 instead
13:55 < renaud> yes, you would get 6Gb ram instead
13:55 < sibiria> or 2, to leave some room for more instances :)
13:55 < renaud> you can only have 4 free arm64 CPUs
13:56 < renaud> so if you make multiple instances, it makes sense to use 1CPU and 6Gb ram per instance
13:56 < renaud> unless you need a bigger one
13:57 < sibiria> yeah the 4 cores and 24 gb of ram can be split in any way
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14:01 < renaud> but I have no idea if you can keep your IP if you switch to arm64
14:01 < renaud> BTW, how did you do to unblock port 25?
14:01 < sibiria> they're "elastic", but there's indeed no mention if they can jump across different host parks
14:02 < sibiria> renaud: i upgraded to paid tenancy
14:02 < sibiria> it's the only way
14:02 < renaud> I am in paid tenancy too
14:02 < renaud> but port 25 is still blocked
14:02 < sibiria> ah - then just ask support to unblock it
14:02 < sibiria> you will need to
14:02 < sibiria> same goes for requesting a reverse on an IP
14:02 < renaud> you don't need to set up your own DNS to set up the reverse?
14:02 < sibiria> (at least i have not seen a UI dialog for setting reverse on the IPs yet)
14:03 < sibiria> i just asked the support to set it and they did
14:03 < sibiria> they are in control of the PTR records after all
14:03 < sibiria> their IPs
14:04 < renaud> yes, it's normal that they do it themselves, but in their doc, it's stated that you need your own DNS for the delegation if I remember well
14:04 < sibiria> if it's a new change i'm not aware of it. when i set mine up, 11 months ago, the documentation referred to support
14:04 < renaud> now I need to find how to contact support :D
14:05 < sibiria> the floating life buoy modal on your right ;)
14:05 < renaud> they should have put it into the menus :D
14:10 < renaud> OK, now you need to open an SR in https://support.oracle.com
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14:13 < sibiria> you can "quick-access" it directly from the cloud page
14:13 < thyssentishman> Hey! I'm working on a port of shiboken (Python bindings for QT) and I'm running into the following error from `make port-lib-depends-check`
14:14 < thyssentishman> Before I turn to the ports mailing list, perhaps someone here knows what the problem could be?
14:14 < renaud> sibiria: yes, that's where I got there :)
14:14 < thyssentishman> `Missing lib: clang.8 (/usr/local/bin/shiboken6) (NOT REACHABLE)`
14:15 < thyssentishman> From what I've seen on the port for other platforms, it seems that clang is a runtime dependency, which is what I believe is causing this error
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14:16 < thyssentishman> I'm using lang/clang in MODULES and tried adding devel/llvm/13 to LIB_DEPENDS, but I'm still getting the error
14:20 < renaud> sibiria: do you have machines in multiple countries?
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14:21 < sibiria> renaud: only in stockholm
14:22 < renaud> it seems that's another limit, you cannot use multiple regions by default
14:23 < sibiria> seems acceptable to ask for limit increase
14:23 < sibiria> we're effectively paying $0.00/month after all :)
14:23 < renaud> :D
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14:34 < GnarledHorn> I am installing 
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14:34 < GnarledHorn> (sorry - accidental send)
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15:12 < Posterdati> please help, was gfortran removed from packages? Thanks!
15:16 < fro> do you see it when you search for it?
15:16 < fro> i don't see it
15:17 < lts> Isn't it the g95 package?
15:17 < Posterdati> sure it is, thanks!
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15:45 < avemestr> zyxer: On Hetzner you have to ask for KVM + ask them to attach an USB with OpenBSD install image if you have a dedicated/bare-metal server. On their cloudy offering you can simply attach install73 from their WebUI and use a web-based console to install.
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17:09 < aaronm04> is $(...) command substitution undocumented for hostname.if(5)?
17:09 < aaronm04> it works, but can I rely on it in the future?
17:13 < phy1729> I don't see that it's documented that unmatched lines take a trip through eval, so think it's undocumented
17:14 < phy1729> !command is documented as arbitrary shell commands, so I think it's fair game there
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17:24 < aaronm04> Ah I see. Thanks!
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17:25 < coreystephanphd> Small Q -- any tip for increasing responsiveness of LibreOffice on -current? I have smt=1 and user in staff. LibreOffice's sluggishness in OpenBSD relative to FreeBSD and GNU/Linux has been bugging me for months, but, weirdly, it only just now occured to me to ask if there is a standard 'Oh, do this" answer out there.
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17:29 < avemestr> coreystephanphd: My first guess would be to bump resource limits for the staff group in /etc/login.conf and add your user to that group. But the first guess it not always right.
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17:33 < coreystephanphd> avemestr: Yeah, I have done that, too. Pardon me for not mentioning.
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17:38 < coreystephanphd> I suspect that LO is held back from the scheduler. But there might be more to it and/or something else that I am missing.
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17:39 < coreystephanphd> It is an odd thing, really. Even Web browsers are just fine -- maybe a tad less responsive than on other OSes. But LibreOffice has been a sore point for me on 2 separate machines.
17:39 < coreystephanphd> Everything loads as expected, appears as expected, etc., but there is a delay after almost every command. Scrolling, for example, is almost painful in LO Writer.
17:41 < coreystephanphd> Even for a, say, 40 page document with only 3-4 languages that only uses 50-60 mb of RAM.
17:41 < Bradipo> Yeah, I've noticed the same about LibreOffice, especially as regards fonts.
17:41 < avemestr> Time to learn LaTeX! J/k, somebody with more insight might chime in.
17:42 < Bradipo> Haha, well, I just use TeX for most of those kinds of things.
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17:45 < coreystephanphd> I am working on a manuscript of a scholarly monograph, so a different kind of thing, but, sadly, Michael Lucas's (in)famous answers in the "Writing Tools" section of his FAQ holds equally true here: https://mwl.io/faq  
17:45 < coreystephanphd> TLDR -- I *can* use LibreOffice and export, since my formatting is not quite as contrived as Lucas's, but there is no chance in heck that a TeX workflow would even be understood by my editor.
17:48 < coreystephanphd> Anyway, thanks, avemestr and Bradipo , and I suppose that Bradipo and I ought to be pinged if anyone knows of a trick to speed up LibreOffice.
17:49 < Bradipo> I don't actually use LibreOffice, but I know others who do and I noticed the slowness.
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18:03 < coreystephanphd> There does not seem to be anything in misc@ (or ports@) about this, either. Hmmm.
18:04 < coreystephanphd> Lots of "Gah, Firefox/LibreOffice crashes..." with the usual "user --> staff, then up" response. But this is a different thing, of course. General sluggishness. Stutters.
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18:24 < zyxer> Libreoffice sluggishness and stutter was what I had when my RAM was broken
18:25 < zyxer> I did memtest long after and realised it was miracle computer even ran since I had bad RAM
18:25 < zyxer> One stick had bad sectors. OpenBSD never crashed, but some weird shenanigans went on
18:25 < zyxer> And I lost work
18:26 < coreystephanphd> zyxer: Coincidence, I think, without hitting the cause. I have had this on 2 separate machines, both perfectly fine otherwise, and others are reporting the same.
18:26 < zyxer> Oh, ok
18:26 < coreystephanphd> (but...that stinks, man)
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18:27 < coreystephanphd> The issue is something about LibreOffice in OpenBSD, specifically.
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18:47 < topcat001> I wonder if the build is fully optimised. Probably not something so silly/simple.
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19:00 < zyxer> Hi. How can I try to use xbox one controller without OpenBSD crashing?
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19:01 < zyxer> I plugged it in but randomly when I run the software to test the controller it just reezes
19:01 < zyxer> freezes*
19:02 < zyxer> Wait, this is impossible to help with I can't even remember what software to test I used. I'll be back later when I can find that. My bad
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19:17 < nature> Hi all, I have an annoying issue with ipv6 on my dualstack setup. To make it short, I have two machine, a laptop and a server, my laptop connects to my server with a wireguard tunnel, the server is dual stack v4/v6 and provides an ipv6 address (publicly routable) to my laptop through the wg tunnel. the server has 2 /64 v6 subnets, one for the vio0 interface and one for the wg0 interface. Now to my issue: reachability of ipv6 addresses
19:17 < nature> is inconsistent from my laptop but not from my server. example, from the laptop I can "ping6 2a00:1450:400e:80f::200e" but I can't "ping6 2a00:1450:400e:811::200e", on my server both commands work.
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19:19 < nature> I am supposing it's a routing issue, but I am not sure how to investigate that.
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19:20 < phy1729> What's the output of sysctl net.inet6.ip6.forwarding
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19:20 < nature> net.inet6.ip6.forwarding=1
19:20 < nature> On both machine
19:21 < nature> On my laptop, my wg config has "wgaip ::/0" so all ipv6 traffic should go to the tunnel
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19:22 < phy1729> I'd confirm with tcpdump on the wireguard interface and then start looking at pf. https://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/logging.html describes how to log rules and see the logs with tcpdump
19:23 < nature> Thanks, I'll try it this way
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19:29 < nature> Ok so icmp6 request is seen by the server on it's wg0 iface
19:29 < nature> Will check if stuff gets stuck in pf now
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19:30 < nature> Doesn't seem like it, the icmp6 request is also seen on the vio0 iface (which is internet facing)
19:31 < nature> The source ip of the icmp6 is also correct, but it's strange that no response comes...
19:34 < nature> It's as if one of those two ipv6 address doesn't know how to reach out my ipv6 while the other does
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20:49 < ssm_> two hard freezes in one day, way
20:49 < ssm_> s/way/wee
20:49 < thrig> when hell freezes over!
20:50 < ssm_> seems no matter what hardware I run openbsd on it just seems to periodically require a hard reset due to freezing if I'm running an X session
20:51 < ssm_> how's wayland support, speaking of
20:51 < thrig> being worked on, I guess?
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20:51 < yj2> ssm_: curious what environment you're running in X
20:52 < ssm_> yj2: jwm
20:52 < ssm_> I think maybe picom is causing the freezing
20:52 < ssm_> can't escape to a tty or anything
20:53 < yj2> have you tried turning off picom for a stretch/
20:53 < ssm_> I'm going to now
20:53 < ssm_> I did for a while, and I think it was reliable
20:53 < ssm_> the screen tearing is jarring though
20:54 < ssm_> using modesetting(4), only supported driver, so I can't enable tearfree
20:55 < ssm_> apparently there's a hack for modesetting to allow enabling tearfree, but I can't find it
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21:13 < zyxer> I know how to enable tear free
21:13 < zyxer> ssm_: Wait let me find it. Xorg arguments are different thing in openBSD and linux, I already solved it
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21:14 < zyxer> What GPU you on?
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21:14 < gry> is it possible to configure it in httpd to allow cors, if so, how
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21:17 < ssm_> zyxer: inteldrm0 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 "Intel Xe Graphics" rev 0x01
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21:29 < nature> So I did some more testing, basically doing "ping6 2a00:1450:400e:811::200e" from my laptop doesn't receive any reply, although I get to see the packet going out on the internet from my server: "2a03:6000:9e13:100::2 > 2a00:1450:400e:811::200e: icmp6: echo request" on interface vio0 which is internet facing, but then I never see the icmp6 reply...
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21:30 < zyxer> ssm_: You need to find driver and identifier name and mod my xorg config. I am not sure but that grafix driver should have tearfree option, no?
21:31 < nature> When I do "ping6 -I 2a03:6000:9e13:100::1 2a00:1450:400e:811::200e" from the server itself, there I see the request and reply, which looks almost the same as before: "2a03:6000:9e13:100::1 > 2a00:1450:400e:811::200e: icmp6: echo request" and "2a00:1450:400e:811::200e > 2a03:6000:9e13:100::1: icmp6: echo reply"
21:31 < zyxer> https://clbin.com/J0viS
21:32 < zyxer> ssm_
21:32 < nature> So I really have no idea why 2a00:1450:400e:811::200e is unable to send back a reply, especially when the whole 2a03:6000:9e13:100::/64 subnet is routed to my server
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21:32 < ssm_> zyxer: the driver is modesetting(4), it doesn't support tearfree
21:32 < ssm_> intel(4) doesn't work on this gpu
21:33 < zyxer> Oh, sorry
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21:33 < zyxer> You enable ping response in pf?
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21:35 < sibiria> state will be kept by default. maybe something differs for icmp6
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21:37 < sibiria> nature: do you see the echo reply coming back with tcpdump?
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21:58 < nature> No I don't see the replies at all when the ping is initiated from my laptop
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21:59 < nature> Do you think pf could be responsible? To me it looks more like the reply just never comes back, because I did the tcpdump on the internet facing interface on my server, so I guess it's like the "edge" and everything should show there
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22:02 < nature> (gonna afk some more, but going to look at the log when I come back)
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22:03 < zyxer> Why didn't I give cwm a chance earlier? It is really nice. Some good window managing. 
22:05 < sibiria> nature: if you don't see it coming back, then pf (on the originating machine) shouldn't be responsible
22:05 < sibiria> tcpdump listens directly on the interface *before* the inbound traffic reaches PF
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22:06 < topcat001> ssm_: which backend are you using for picom
22:07 < topcat001> It is quite possible that the Xe driver is not totally stable yet; even on Linux there are some issues
22:07 < ssm_> topcat001: whatever the default is (non-legacy)
22:07 < ssm_> there's no experimental flag anymore
22:07 < topcat001> no, I mean glx or xrender?
22:08 < ssm_> xrender
22:08 < topcat001> try glx
22:09 < ssm_> okie dokie
22:11 < topcat001> hope it fares better :)
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