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03:58 < rnkn> what's a good web framework with fastcgi support? I was thinking mojolicious (because perl is part in base) but doesn't seems to have fcgi
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04:00 < thrig> you could run mojo under plack
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04:02 < rnkn> like httpd -> plack -> mojo ?
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04:04 < thrig> PLACK_ENV=deployment PERL5LIB=/var/www/lib/perl5 MOJO_REVERSE_PROXY=1 bin/plackup bin/mojolitescripthere -s FCGI -l run/foo.sock
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04:07 < rnkn> that's good to go off, thanks
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05:13 < Windshield> HELO
05:13 < Windshield> MY computer...
05:13 < Windshield> It
05:13 < Windshield> well it crashes when it blanks the screen
05:13 < Windshield> I tried diabling it iwth xscreensaer-config
05:13 < Windshield> but it doesn't stop blanking
05:13 < Windshield> ...
05:14 < Windshield> and crashing
05:14 < Windshield> when I say "crashed"
05:14 < Windshield> agh
05:14 < Windshield> I mean it goes blank,
05:14 < Windshield> the monitor powers down (which it did properly before)
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05:15 < Windshield> but the system becomes non-responsive
05:15 < Windshield> no response from numlock, Ctrl-At-F2 etc.
05:17 < Windshield> I have to reboot to keep working
05:23 < Windshield> ANy ideas on what to do to fix it?
05:23 < Windshield> What's odd
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05:23 < Windshield> Is it doesn't do it for simple applications
05:24 < Windshield> only an AI I run on here
05:24 < Windshield> I have plenty of these around the place which work normally without a  problem
05:24 < Windshield> I can't figure it out
05:24 < Windshield> All are on openbsd
05:24 < Windshield> either 7.2 or 7.3
05:25 < Windshield> all amd64
05:26 < avemestr> What do you mean by "an AI I run on here"?
05:26 < Windshield> in house project
05:26 < avemestr> But it only happens when you run that particular software?
05:27 < Windshield> mm
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05:30 < zyxer> xset 
05:31 < zyxer> xset s off && xset -dpms && xset s noblank
05:32 < zyxer> Windshield: I need to add that line to my .xsession to prevent screen blanking thingy issue 
05:33 < Windshield> ok
05:33 < Windshield> I've applied that
05:33 < Windshield> I will try it in a bit and let you know how I go
05:33 < Windshield> thankyou everyone
05:34 < Windshield> bye
05:35 < zyxer> You need to logout and then login or reboot for it to apply
05:35 < zyxer> Windshield:
05:37 < Windshield> ok
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09:33 < orwell> Moin! Is the visidata port broken and I should message ports@ or do I try to use visidata the wrong way? https://paste.dismail.de/?938470111f633f56#2mMxsLbTwkwLc1ihLDuL8LYsCb2SoemUQKqgfujaNGc1
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14:30 < tetra_> man.openbsd.org is down
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14:36 < sibiria> will we survive make our time?
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14:43 < oldlaptop> tetra_: man.bsd.lv is a few versions behind these days, but is another man.cgi instance that has openbsd manpages
14:43 < oldlaptop> (and, more interestingly, a whole bunch of others)
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14:46 < tetra_> thanks! 
14:48 < martian67> oldlaptop: openbsd had that for a while, but due to its insane google juice it got annoying because you'd search for something openbsd and get a freebsd manpage on openbsd.org :)
14:51 < oldlaptop> Too bad about that. The completely different systems are one thing, but the POSIX ones would be handy sometimes
14:52 < oldlaptop> then again https://openports.pl/path/books/man-pages-posix
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14:52 < martian67> yeah it had the posix ones too iirc
14:53 < oldlaptop> my loose recollection is that it was more or less the same selection man.bsd.lv has now
14:53 < oldlaptop> maybe a bit less comprehensive on old versions of completely different systems
14:54 < oldlaptop> ooh, cvsweb is borken too
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14:55 < martian67> seems like the cgi server took a shit
14:55 < martian67> or something
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16:37 < MaddieKalan> What does routing domain mean in the context of pf? Its not really defined in pf.conf(5)
16:37 < phy1729> see man rdomain
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16:47 < MaddieKalan> phy1729: Thank you, I will.
16:48 < thrig> it was the domain of seaman, so probably the vikings?
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17:11 < ssm_> the only domain of seaman I know of is my mom's basement
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17:13 < thrig> In the town, where I was born, lived a man, who coded C ...
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17:17 < oldlaptop> wow, that's a missed opportunity right there
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19:52 < leo-unglaub> hey, whats the best way to get a random number from arc4random()? just using arc4random() * -1 does not work, because it would overflow
19:54 < leo-unglaub> * negative random number i mean ...
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19:58 < zyxer> Can't you just make a random number and then change it to negative? If you need random from a negative to possitive value then make random number and then another that is 1 or 0, if 0 you let the first be and if one you change the first to negative  
19:59 < thrig> arc4random_uniform(0x7FFFFFFF) * -1  or maybe  arc4random() | 0x80000000
20:00 < leo-unglaub> thrig: thats a great idea, thanks :) that prevents an overflow
20:01 < thrig> maybe you need to worry about 0 or non-twos-complement maffs
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20:02 < quinq> Why do you want a “negative” number though?
20:02 < quinq> Most likely you want to substract a positive number
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20:10 < sibiria> leo-unglaub: not sufficient to just cast it to a signed type and let the MSB decide?
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20:10 < sibiria> e.g.  uint32_t x = arc4random(); int32_t y = x;
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20:22 < armin> i honestly don't like that firmware.openbsd.org has no https
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20:23 < sibiria> thankfully signatures are checked
20:23 < sibiria> but it is indeed edgy!
20:23 < armin> yea.
20:23 < xse> i guess it doesn't matter at all
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20:24 < xse> like would there be a single benefit using https ?
20:24 < sibiria> snoops can see what firmware and for what platform you download
20:24 < sibiria> the query is plain-text
20:25 < xse> i mean that's also the case with https nope ? it's not like https obfuscate the size of what you download by adding lots of random bits
20:25 < sibiria> you can deduce some of it
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20:27 < armin> well it will simply show a large red warning in a well configured browser because the website doesn't have https, of course you could argue that an experienced person will know what's up. :)
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20:29 < armin> i mean i also don't like man.openbsd.org having no AAAA record or firmware. being behind fastly, but i understand i'm being nitpicky here.
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20:29 < xse> yeah i'd guess a motivated individual could deduce all of it
20:30 < xse> there's https://openports.pl/search?path=firmware and https://openbsd.app/?search=firmware&current=on that would do, on top of being https you'd get more informations
20:31 < thrig> my w3m is well configured and well never show red anything
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20:32 < armin> xse: https://uno.m2m.pm/pkg.txt <- i'm currently "working on" (lol that sounds way too professional) on this thing here, absolutely not beautiful, but works quite well for doing "pkg search foo"
20:33 < armin> xse: maybe i'll drop the sudo's at some point and make this usable for people other than myself.
20:36 < armin> xse: i would probably have to re-write it in ksh before someone even remotely considers it anyways, but hey. :)
20:36 < thrig> yeah bash deps are kinda... ehhn... no
20:37 < armin> thrig: i'm even hardcoding sudo and using 1 space as indentation, i mean i do a lot of things 99% of humans would want to shoot me for.
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20:39 < armin> thrig: i'm also the author of this thing here: https://codeberg.org/armin/vpm - nowadays it's even in the void base repository. when i started writing it people told me "this will NEVER be accepted."...
20:39 < phy1729> armin: why not just pkg() { local subcommand=$1; shift; pkg_$subcommand "$@"; }   ?
20:39 < xse> sweet :p
20:39 < armin> phy1729: sure would do a lot of what i'm doing, too, i was actually considering something like that but realized that would lack "pkg install" and "pkg search"
20:40 < armin> phy1729: in fact i was considering what to do with "unknown" arguments, yes.
20:41 < armin> phy1729: maybe it's a bit pathetic even, but when i saw the pkg_* utilities all i wanted was a "pkg" utility that accepts install/search/remove etc.
20:42 < armin> phy1729: i'm also known for installing coreutils on *BSD just so i have ls with "--group-directories-first" and i can not lie.
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20:46 < xse> not sure what kind of tool i'd use, maybe something along the lines of "some kind of big library is gonna get updated make sure all the things that rely on that have been rebuilt" or smth
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20:51 < armin> well the CORRECT way would be to implement an option in ls that resembles GNU ls --group-directories-first
20:51 < armin> an alternative would be to use exa.
20:51 < armin> another alternative would be to just live with that.
20:52 < Exa> I think you mean eza
20:52 < armin> do i? i just checked and pkg_add still knows only exa.
20:52 < phy1729> it should be pretty easy, just need to change the cmp function passed to qsort I'd assume
20:53 < armin> phy1729: i would love to see that, i'm not experienced enough to get that rolling, but i would sure test anything i can get my hands upon.
20:54 < armin> phy1729: and yes i would probably be able to implement with the help of some experienced c-coder.
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20:54 < xse> always kinda doable in shell script like using -F + grep + sort, twice
20:55 < armin> xse: i'm living with weird workarounds since 10 years now, i would love to change that. :)
20:55 < armin> i mean it's not a dealbreaker or something, but meh, it's itching me a bit, i admit it.
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21:01  * xse loves those workarounds
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21:08 < phy1729> armin: https://gist.github.com/phy1729/ef6e12af2dc1d507397891615c1a4b86  or something like that
21:09 < armin> phy1729: oh nais!
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21:22 < armin> phy1729: https://paste.debian.net/plain/1292925 <- in the first example i would have expected the ZURK directory to be listed before Makefile though, the 2nd example looks perfect.
21:27 < armin> phy1729: (sorry for nitpitcking!)
21:27 < phy1729> I don't actually want the feature, so debugging is left as an exercise to the reader
21:27 < armin> phy1729: ok :)
21:27 < armin> thank you, will tweak that.
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