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00:30 < aaronm04> joe9: I recommend installing yt-dlp in a virtualenv with the py3-pip package
00:31 < aaronm04> then you can easily update without messing up any system Python modules
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06:12 < Rand0m> Hi there, I'm trying to upgrade my openbsd and always get this issue "write failed, file system is full - No space left on the device" I passed screenshots on imgur https://imgur.com/gallery/sTcxHgl
06:13 < Rand0m> I wonder how to free space for upgrade to work
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06:13 < Rand0m> in saying that sometimes it does work
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06:15 < IcePic> 1. figure out which folder eats up tons of space ; 2. Clean out or move lots of data ; 3. Retry
06:16 < IcePic> but it looks like /usr is not a partition of its own, which makes / go full after install when it tries to relink the libs and kernel
06:16 < Rand0m> which partition?
06:16 < IcePic> the error on your screenshot says / went full
06:16 < IcePic> I'm basing my assumptions on your picture
06:17 < Rand0m> yes that what I get
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06:18 < Rand0m> IcePic, any specific folder(s) I can clean, or is there a way to detect those?
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06:20 < IcePic> Rand0m: did you let the installer choose a default partitioning scheme or did you make your own?
06:20 < Rand0m> everything is default
06:20 < beastie> how large is your disk?
06:22 < beastie> can you please run df in that system (or start a shell from the installation program) to see how large are your filesystems?
06:22 < Rand0m> hi beastie, the second screen shot https://imgur.com/gallery/sTcxHgl here
06:23 < dennis> maybe start with `du -sxhd 1 / | sort -h`, and check out what's taking space
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06:24 < dennis> that should show how much each folder in / is taking up, excluding all other mountpoints
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06:25 < beastie> you have a one gigabyte root partition, that probably is small.
06:26 < Rand0m> the upgrade worked many times before, just sometimes like this week it is failing
06:27 < Rand0m> https://imgur.com/gallery/eNkvp9O
06:27 < dennis> why do you have 794M in /dev?
06:27 < beastie> Rand0m: if you are upgrading your system from old ones... it is possible that the root filesystem has got not big enoug to hold the new data needed.
06:28 < dennis> Rand0m: run `du -sh /dev/* | sort -h`
06:28 < dennis> there should normally not be anything large in that directory
06:28 < Rand0m> sure one minute
06:29 < Rand0m> i have 30M for /dev/sd1 and 764M /dev/sd0
06:29 < beastie> but that is not going to be the problem, the df output you show clearly shows that you have filled the root filesystem (even for root access) completely.  Have you moved part of your system to some directory in the root filesystem?
06:30 < Rand0m> nope beastie, all my files are in the home directory
06:30 < beastie> hmmm... sd0 is freebsd naming for disks... not openbsd.
06:30 < dennis> why on earth does sd1 and sd0 take up space
06:31 < beastie> because they are files, not devices.
06:31 < dennis> I think you might have dd'ed wrongly at some point
06:31 < beastie> or misnamed the disks.
06:31 < Rand0m> can we clean them up
06:31 < zelest> 40.0K   /dev
06:31 < zelest> on my system :)
06:32 < Rand0m> what are sd0 and sd1?
06:32 < zelest> they don't exist :)
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06:32 < dennis> I *think* you might have tried to dd something to sd0c or sd1c at some point, and mistakenly dded to sd0 and sd1
06:32  * zelest nods
06:33 < dennis> /dev/sd0 and /dev/sd1 should not exit. AT LEAST not as files.
06:33 < Rand0m> okay that might be possible, so am I okay to remove them?
06:33 < beastie> sd[01] are the names used for scsi disks in freebsd, I'm afraid you have made some kind of mesh at some point.... and probably something similar happens in your root filesystem\
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06:34 < beastie> but that's not the issue.... the problem is in /, not in /dev
06:34 < dennis> beastie: /dev is a folder in /
06:34 < Rand0m> dennis spot on! removed them and worked
06:34 < dennis> Rand0m: cool :)
06:34 < Rand0m> might be a confusion between freebsd and openbsd when I was dd
06:35 < beastie> oh.... that's right... /dev is not mounted separately in openbsd, as there's no devfs in ther.
06:35 < Rand0m> thank you all for your help and time
06:35 < dennis> np. gl with the upgrade :)
06:35 < beastie> yes.... probably... I was making the same confusion considering /dev a separate mount point.
06:35 < Rand0m> Thanks again guys... :)
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06:36 < dennis> beastie: yea :) linux has /dev as a separate mountpoint
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08:28 < kodcode> how can I avoid windows overlapping the lemonbar with cwm?
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08:41 < betabug> kodcode: man cwmrc -> look for "gap"
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08:59 < kodcode> betabug: Great, thank you.
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09:01 < Rustic> Hi there, is this channel a good place to ask about doas.conf?
09:01 < betabug> I guess so
09:01 < Rustic> The nopass is not working anymore for me
09:01 < betabug> kodcode: yw :-)
09:02 < zelest> What does your doas.conf line look like?
09:02 < Rustic> permit nopass username as root cmd reboot
09:02 < Rustic> this used to work, stopped I added keepenv and still always promoted a password
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09:03 < Rustic> tried chaning it to /sbin/reboot same thing
09:03 < zelest> From the man-page though: "The last matching rule determines the action taken."
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09:04 < zelest> Could that be the case?
09:04 < Rustic> no, when I change I add below
09:05 < Rustic> I only have 3 rules for shutdown reboot and halt plus the standard stuff
09:05 < sibiria> pro-life tip: stop abusing doas for convenience. use su -l
09:06 < sibiria> #stopprivilegeabuse
09:06 < sibiria> #justsayno
09:06 < zelest> pro-life tip: save 20% of you typing, use su -
09:06 < Rustic> any tips?
09:07 < zelest> Rustic, pastebin your entire conf somewhere.. it's easier to debug :)
09:07 < zelest> and what user/group are you trying?
09:08 < zelest> and where is your doas.conf located and what permissions does it have? :)
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09:08 < Rustic> wheel
09:08 < Rustic> okay will do that give me a second
09:09 < Rustic> https://pad.bsd.to/p/0CVDzO_9dt3Ftj5yh_yx
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09:11 < zelest> Rustic, see my first comment from the man-page. :)
09:13 < Rustic> doas.conf is located in /etc/doas.conf  -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  192 Sep 27 19:07 /etc/doas.conf
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09:15 < zelest> I assume his reboot worked.
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09:16 < Rustic> yep got it now, thank you
09:16 < zelest> :)
09:16 < dqk> what if i have the same problem but it's already the last rule? :)
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09:17 < zelest> pastebin :)
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09:22 < tetra_> What would be the best way to reach [vps] from PC? Should I use pair(4) or a pf rule? PC-192.168.10.10------192.168.10.1-cnmac1-[router]-wg0(rdomain1)-10.0.100.1-----------10.0.100.10-[vps]
09:23 < zelest> Not sure I follow, but I would use wg0 on your PC too?
09:23 < tetra_> I want to avoid running wireguard in my pc
09:24 < zelest> Ah, fair enough. A firewalled sshd then?
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09:24 < tetra_> I want to route IPv4 traffic via the vps without wireguard in my PC, wireguard tunnel is ipv6
09:25 < tetra_> do you mean tunnel option in sshd? didn't think about that
09:25 < tetra_> ideally I'd like to just use routes
09:26 < zelest> Ah, no, I thought you only wanted to reach your VPS :D
09:26 < tetra_> with [router]-wg0 is in rdomain0 I can ping 10.0.100.1 from my pc
09:26 < tetra_> s/with/when
09:26 < tetra_> I think I just need some pf rule
09:27 < zelest> If you plan to route traffic, make sure net.inet.ip.forwarding is set to 1
09:27 < tetra_> yes, it's set in router and vps, that's no problem
09:27 < zelest> Ah
09:28 < tetra_> my problem is communicating with 10.0.100.1 rdomain 1
09:28 < tetra_> from my pc
09:32 < dlg> you want all the PC traffic to go over wg to the vps?
09:32 < tetra_> I want to set 10.0.100.10 as the default route for ipv4 traffic
09:32 < tetra_> without running wireguard in my pc
09:33 < tetra_> well, for now I just want to ping 10.0.100.1 from PC and get replies to continue with my setup
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09:34 < dqk> zelest: it got scared from you i think, now it works fine
09:35 < zelest> lol
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10:02 < rnkn> is it very difficult to a perl installation into /var/www to run chrooted?
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10:41 < jfsimon1981> Hi,
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10:41 < jfsimon1981> I have openBSD able to work through a wireless LAN, but a windows machine has troubles with the router.
10:42 < jfsimon1981> Is it possible to use OpenBSD to forward (be the access point) ?
10:42 < jfsimon1981> Thanks
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10:49 < zyxer> Yes
10:50 < zyxer> jfsimon1981: I am unsure what your OpenBSD device is. You need to explain the setup more detailed, can't help you otherwise
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10:50 < zyxer> At the very least you need to setup a dhcp server with unbound
10:51 < zyxer> and probably change pf rules
10:51 < jfsimon1981> It's a laptop with wifi and ethernet, now i coneect in a hotel only in wifi.
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10:51 < zyxer> You mean OpenBSD laptop gets wifi and share wifi through ethernet to other device?
10:51 < jfsimon1981> So that i would like to share its wifi with the windows machine (since win can't work with the router they have here)
10:52 < jfsimon1981> I don't think the nat rule works for this, maybe rdr
10:52 < quinq> That's exactly what nat is for
10:52 < zyxer> You want interface ethernet to go through wifi? I can help you with that. Literally what I did with vanilla openbsd router
10:52 < quinq> [hotel]<- wifi ->[openbsd+NAT]<- ethernet ->[Windows]
10:52 < zyxer> Or well, route things through different interfaces
10:53 < zyxer> Yea
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13:04 < xse> i tried to replicate vm.conf(5)'s instance example as such: https://0x0.st/HVpl.conf
13:05 < xse> yet even as root i get connection refused without setting owner on the instance
13:05 < zelest> is vmd running? :)
13:05 < quinq> :)
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13:06 < xse> nah it doesn't run, but rcctl doesn't say it failed, it doesn't like the config as such, but still says config config OK with -n
13:07 < zelest> Huh?
13:07 < xse> either the example is not quite right or i'm doing something wrong, in any case i don't think the instance feature really does what i was looking for but i still wanted to try it out
13:07 < zelest> rcctl start -df vmd
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13:10 < CosmicDJ> can anyone please explain "Remember: It's time to start using "-D snap" with pkg_add" http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article;sid=20230927052519 
13:11 < IcePic> CosmicDJ: the snaps right now think of themselves of 7.4, but 7.4 is not out yet
13:11 < IcePic> so you pkg_add -Dsnap to force it to look in the snapshots-folders on the mirrors
13:11 < IcePic> think of themselves AS 7.4
13:12 < xse> zelest: yeah that stops early but still says OK https://i.imgur.com/9l5nOeK.png
13:12 < xse> it works very well if i remove the comment for "owner xse:xse" in the instance configuration
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13:13 < zelest> are you logged in as xse:xse though? not sure how anal it is about the group
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13:14 < xse> yes i am and all the qcow2 and folders are too, even if i wasn't i'm guessing it sould work as root
13:16 < zelest> hmms, I just tried adding user:group to my local machine and it works here(tm)
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13:17 < zelest> I don't use instance though
13:18 < xse> yeah i don't especially plan to use em i thought it would have been great to just make copies of vms to try things out but in retrospect it doesn't quite do that
13:19 < xse> might as well modify vm.conf every time i need one
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13:22 < xse> arf, got it! it wants "owner xse" on the parent instead of "owner xse:xse"
13:23 < xse> aw it makes sense, it's even documented that way, the parent can have owner user:group but the instance only wants group
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13:30 < neirac> I'm experiencing low volume on my usb audio card, I'm using headphones connected to it, if I press the button on my headphone that increases/decreases volume it sound louder but I need to keep the button pressed to maintain that level of volume, I already checked mixerctl but I'm already at 100% vol
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13:34 < neirac> well is odd I just connected the headphone not all the way into the socket and works now
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13:53 < PapaChub> I presume this has been discussed, but in order to protect against https://www.openssh.com/txt/release-9.3p2, is it sufficient to add `AllowAgentForwarding no` to `/etc/ssh/sshd_config` and restart?
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14:08 < Bradipo> PapaChub: The document it self suggests how to prevent it.
14:10 < brynet> https://www.openbsd.org/errata73.html#p010_ssh_agent
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14:28 < PapaChub> Trusting users to add `ssh-agent -P ''` is all fine and good, but will they actually remember to do so?  (I don't *distrust* them; like I don't expect anybody to go out of their way to bypass the restriction, but they shouldn't have to go out of their way to avoid it, either...)
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14:29 < Bradipo> Oh, I see what you mean.
14:29 < Bradipo> Maybe there's a configuration option to disable the PKCS#11 modules?
14:29 < Bradipo> But maybe there isn't and it's a new option?
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15:21 < aaronm04> If I wanted to change the uuid of a logged out user, is it enough to change it in /etc/passwd, chown -R on the homedir, and chown the mailbox for the user?
15:21 < aaronm04> uid* not uuid
15:22 < thrig> maybe. what about crontab, files in /tmp, ...
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15:23 < aaronm04> No cron stuff for this user
15:23 < aaronm04> Assume a fresh reboot
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15:59 < kodcode> with cwm, when cycling with M-Tab, can I "lock" a certain window (my lemonbar) and skip over it when cycling through all windows?
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16:03 < uwharrie> kodcode: see https://man.openbsd.org/cwmrc#ignore
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17:19 < Bradipo> I just got bit by the disabling of ~C in SSH.
17:19 < Bradipo> $ commandline disabled
17:21 < betabug> kodcode: yeah, in the default setup the console out put window is set up like that IIRC
17:23 < Bradipo> Supposedly there's an option to enable the command line again, but I don't see it.
17:24 < Bradipo> Oh, found it... EnableEscapeCommandline
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18:03 < kodcode> uwharrie: Thank you!
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18:29 < coreystephanphd> xit
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18:37 < coreystephanphd> [typo -- carry on]
18:38 < quinq> Hummm, is it not possible to have a VM with more than 1 vcpu?
18:39 < uwharrie> quinq: depends on the hypervisor
18:40 < il> completely unrelated question, but probably not a bad place to ask it: Do you put the <year> in the licenses and what do you put for <owner> (alias/nick, email, or full name)?
18:40 < quinq> Well, vmm(4) :p
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18:41 < quinq> il, yes and full name + email 
18:43 < uwharrie> quinq: vmm only supports a single CPU per VM
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18:44 < quinq> ok, thanks for confirming uwharrie 
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19:19 < morpho> sorry if that sounds super niave but i've enjoyed developing software since I was like 12... ten years later I'm thinking maybe I could get a job in it? Whats best way to get foot in door?
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19:23 < quinq> Participate in collaborative projects, make friends, ask them if they're looking for collegues in $job
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19:27 < morpho> so its just who you know? I have a linked in with my personal projects but don't associate much with computer people outside of IRC
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19:28 < Lucas6023> you can also apply to junior positions
19:28 < Lucas6023> without much thought
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19:29 < morpho> that would be great. I am worried because my personal experince is just OBSD/c99, make, very distant from most companies software stacks
19:29 < quinq> morpho, IRC is fine
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19:30 < quinq> Yeah morpho, it's not easy to find an interesting job
19:30 < quinq> But they exist
19:30 < uwharrie> if you're hoping to get bites at random, you'll need to SEO your resume/CV and massage your non-dev experience to sound relevant to dev based job
19:31 < morpho> i'm a cleaner at the moment
19:32 < morpho> have you ever seen 'good will hunting' ?
19:32 < quinq> Yeah, nice fiction
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19:34 < morpho> could I cold reach companies for internships/junior roles... there is some really interesting fintech stuff in my city. Honestly I'd rather program japanese toilets that clean any more haha
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19:36 < quinq> Sounds good yeah, make contacts
19:36 < uwharrie> Could also look into continuing education. I've worked places that helped design classes and then hired students.
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19:40 < thrig> networking, I guess. go to harvard or something
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19:54 < avemestr> morpho: Being proficient in C is always a great skill. O
19:55 < avemestr> I'd think in this IoT age there's some embedded C jobs around as well.
19:55 < avemestr> And far from the cesspool of the modern web!
19:56 < morpho> thanks guys
19:57 < Lucas6023> or learn some basic sysadmin, create 2 different things in AWS, call yourself a devops, and enjoy the money
19:57 < Lucas6023> been doing that with a good degree of success for the last 5 years
19:57 < Lucas6023> enjoy the money to engage in more free time, use your free time to develop things that you like
19:58 < morpho> that sounds perfect
19:58 < Lucas6023> I'm not super sure about folding the thing that you like with your job
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19:58 < Lucas6023> not saying that you shouldn't like your job, neither
19:58 < morpho> I'm a trained fashion designer actually, i thought about getting into tech to pay for that
19:59 < mason> morpho: Get stuff up on github so you can show off a portfolio.
19:59 < mason> You can include a link to it in your resume.
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20:00 < morpho> Lucas6023: it seems most 'passion' jobs pay very little when they also consume all of your time
20:00 < quinq> Working for microsoft?
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20:01 < morpho> mason I have some stuff on github :) just a Vulkan powered gltf viewer at the moment
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20:03 < mason> The more the merrier.
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20:04 < mason> It'd also be useful to see some patch submissions to random projects, as a big part of software engineering is being able to grok a new codebase and contribute to it meaningfully, ideally with a style so consistent with the upstream that no one can identify the patch based on variation in style.
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20:07 < morpho> uwharrie: like a learn to code bootcamp that also behaves as a recruiter post-graduation?
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20:11 < uwharrie> morpho: Kind of, yes. The company was building several massive new data centers so they designed a class at the nearby community college around pretty much exactly what they were looking for from sys admin and ops type people. Applicants without relevant experience but a stable job history and high grades in that class had good chances of getting a contract to hire
20:13 < mason> Contracts are very worker-unfriendly.
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20:13 < mason> but I veer offtopic here, so I'll stop
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20:21 < morpho> uwharrie: that is interesting... a few of my colleagues have done those tech-bootcamps but I ask them about it and its just like, how to use wpasupplicant, basic unix utils, diagnosing network errors.
20:21 < thrig> gotta start somewhere
20:21 < morpho> 100%, and I guess its different living with unix as opposed to working for money
20:22 < quinq> Living the bearded life
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20:53 < avemestr> If I do "pf -f /etc/pf.conf" to reload the reload I get: "pfctl: Current pool size exceeds requested table-entries limit 200000". Then I do "pfctl -F Tables" and get: "3 tables deleted".
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20:53 < avemestr> Seems slightly weird it thinks there 200000+ table-entries, yet only deletes three when asked to delete?
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20:54 < avemestr> Also, after doing "pfctl -F Tables" I'm able to do "pf -f /etc/pf.conf" and it reloads the rules.
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21:00 < jrmu> I tried running openbsd on the HP chromebook 11 G5 setzer, it seems to work properly except the keyboard has very high latency and duplicates keypresses. Is there any workaround?
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21:02 < thrig> did fw_update work
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21:05 < jrmu> hm I'll give that a shot
21:05 < jrmu> I need to attach an external keyboard to use it, the latency made it impossible to use the installer
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21:20 < thrig> otherwise, dmesg and a bug report? is this -current or ?
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21:24 < jrmu> 7.3 stable
21:24 < jrmu> Installing right now, let's see how it behaves soon
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21:45 < bountyht> remiliascarlet: SOrry to hear about your invidious issues, I have no problems using Clipious on Android or public Invidious intances online
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21:45 < jrmu> OK so I installed openbsd on disk sd0 but the bootloader (MrChromebox-4.16 04/09/2022) is not detecting it it seems
21:45 < jrmu> Openbsd 7.3 stable
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21:48 < jrmu> I dropped into the UEFI Interactive Shell, it's stil using the same old entries for Debian
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22:07 < xzvvv32> Would openbsd be able to do 3d/2d acceleration on an intel arc a380?
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22:08 < xzvvv32> hardware decode isnt in 6.1 lts so i doubt that
22:12 < morpho> xzvvv32: i think that would depend on the API used?
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22:14 < morpho> Vulkan / OpenGL
22:15 < sibiria> there's no video hardware decoding, but 2d/3d acceleration works on some GPUs
22:19 < xzvvv32> Where would i track the work on porting the linux drm stack?
22:19 < xzvvv32> Oh so video decode doesnt work on any gpu? thats fine i guess
22:20 < avemestr> xzvvv32: Follow jsg (Jonathan Gray) on openbsd-cvs.
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22:21 < ssm_> jsg do be casually holding up the entire openbsd graphics stack though
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22:39 < sibiria> xzvvv32: correct. there's no vdpau/vaapi for openbsd
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22:40 < morpho> its a feature right?
22:41 < morpho> i hate it when I view DRM content by accident
22:41 < morpho> just propraganda everywhere
22:42 < sibiria> it's just a case of not enough people working on openbsd
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22:55 < remiliascarlet> bountyht: Which instance? On my end, every single instance I tried gives me "The media could not be loaded, either because the server or network failed or because the format is not supported." whenever I have the "動画視聴にプロキシを経由" (proxy videos) option enabled, but it doesn't happen if I disable it.
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