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00:10 < nature> Is there a way to redirect only certain subdomain with httpd or relayd?
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00:12 < nature> For instance I am running example.com and www.example.com on server1 but I want requests to demo.example.com to server1 to be forwarded to server2?
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00:27 < hussein1> how can it be the case that i receive pings from a local 10. ip (that i intend to be the gateway) but when i do route add default <ip> it says "Network is unreachable"?
00:29 < nature> Does a setup like this seem reasonable? https://serverfault.com/questions/856807/openbsd-how-to-use-relayd-and-httpd-for-redirecting-subdomain-requests
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01:23 < nature> Can relayd and httpd listen on the same port?
01:24 < thrig> what would that accomplish?
01:26 < nature> Hmmm, I was thinking something like relayd picks up the traffic that it matches and the rest "defaults" to httpd?
01:26 < thrig> how would that work?
01:27 < nature> also when I relay traffic (layer 7) is there any way to keep the original source ip address?
01:27 < nature> no idea... currently I do a default forward to 127.0.0.1 and when there is a match on the Host header I redirect to my other server
01:28 < nature> My issue with this now is that httpd logs the following: "example.com 127.0.0.1 - - [28/Sep/2023:03:25:09 +0200] "GET / HTTP/1.1" 200 2395"
01:28 < nature> Ideally I would like it to log the actual requesting ip address
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01:35 < nature> I tried the "transparent" keyword in from of the "forward to" clause, but it doesn't seem to work
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01:39 < xse> never bothered with transparent relayd can log stuff out https://0x0.st/HVJq.log
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01:44 < nature> Where does the relayd log ends up? I didn't see any mention of log files in the man page
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01:49 < xse> it doesn't log much by default you have to specify what gets logged - /var/log/daemon
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01:54 < nature> Trying something like this: "pass request quick header log Host value demo.example.com" but it doesn't log the header :/
01:55 < nature> Also how did you get httpd to log in /var/log/daemon ?
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01:58 < nature> Oh I figured out my second question: "log syslog" in httpd.conf
02:00 < xse> things like 'match header log "User-Agent"' 'match url log'
02:01 < xse> on top of the global 'state changes' and 'connection' stuff
02:03 < nature> Oh yeah perfect thanks! So basically I have to add an additional "match ... log" line for everything I wanna log
02:04 < nature> Do you use a special syslog.conf to agregate those logs somewhere else than /var/log/daemon ?
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02:08 < xse> not really i don't need to, i do a syslog.conf debug everything into buffer and syslogd socket flag + "syslogc -cf buffer" which is more akin to a tail -f *log
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02:09 < xzvvv32> sibiria: avemestr thanks will follow jsg's commits
02:10 < xse> the only time i need them is when i'm looking for something specific i'm triggering at the same time so that way i'm sure if i don't see anything something is wrong
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03:45 < jrmu> I tried to install OpenBSD on a HP Chromebook 11 G5 Setzer, it seems to have coreboot + seabios installed, but it cannot detect the BSD bootloader properly. Anyone have suggestions for how to help? I can get into the UEFI Interactive Shell v2.2
03:46 < zyxer> You need to use the seabios boot
03:46 < zyxer> When it gets to grub press c or b 
03:46 < zyxer> and then in seabios you can choose openBSD
03:46 < jrmu> I don't know if I have grub installed
03:46 < jrmu> there's only openbsd on here, no linux
03:47 < zyxer> Grub is a boot loader that ppl usually bundle with coreboot things
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03:47 < zyxer> You can run grub without linux
03:47 < jrmu> hm, if it was bundled, I must have wiped it out I think
03:47 < jrmu> at least it's not one of the options available currently it seems
03:47 < zyxer> You can't it is in the firmware
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03:48 < zyxer> But get into sea BIOS
03:48 < zyxer> Did you get an ISO file for the USB ?
03:48 < jrmu> I first used MrChromebox, then I installed install73.img
03:49 < jrmu> the installation completed successfully
03:49 < zyxer> Oh
03:49 < jrmu> of the 3 devices in the boot menu, I see debian, eMMC Device, and UEFI Shell
03:49 < zyxer> The issue is you need to choose MBR in the installer 
03:49 < zyxer> maybe
03:49 < zyxer> I couldn't boot when I chose GPT partition table
03:49 < zyxer> I had to pick MBR during install
03:49 < jrmu> both debian and eMMC Device show these errors: "Booting from 'debian' failed; verify it contains a 64-bit UEFI OS
03:50 < zyxer> I think you need MBR partition scheme on that
03:51 < zyxer> that = coreboot+seaBIOS thing
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03:53 < jrmu> hm, what should I do then?
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03:56 < fro> reinstall?
03:56 < fro> install linux and forget about it?
03:58 < jrmu> well I doubt it's something wrong with the first installation, I just wiped the entire partition and made OpenBSD the main partition
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03:58 < jrmu> it should have automatically installed the BSD bootloader and set it as active
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04:01 < fro> okay well
04:01 < fro> clearly it didn't
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04:29 < jrmu> OK I got it working; the cause was I needed to create GPT partition tables instead of MBR tables, thanks zyxer 
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04:29 < jrmu> \o/ openbsd on the chromebook
04:32 < zyxer> Wait, I just want to double check: You made no mistake when you wrote it worked with GPT and not MBR?
04:32 < jrmu> yeah correct, it worked with GPT but not MBR
04:33 < jrmu> coreboot I think had a hard time detecting non-GPT partition tables
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04:33 < jrmu> now it's working but alas the trackpad and keyboard don't work well
04:33 < zyxer> Ok that is good to know. I have never heard about such a case, usually MBR is "fool proof" . 
04:33 < zyxer> Good to know. 
04:33 < jrmu> but it works with external keyboard and external mouse
04:33 < zyxer> Don't work well how?
04:33 < zyxer> Trackpad may need drivers 
04:33 < jrmu> well the laptop's keyboard has a lot of lag
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04:33 < zyxer> Oh
04:33 < jrmu> it'll duplicate the same keypress like 10 times
04:33 < jrmu> it works with usb keyboard
04:34 < jrmu> kind of a nuisance of course, so I'm going to try fw_update
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04:43 < jrmu> Can anyone point to the man pages I need to check to fix the trackpad and built-in keyboard?
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04:48 < lennox> I read something about it before let me see if I can find the link
04:48 < lennox> was for the keyboard I tried on my chromebook and didnt get it going
04:48 < lennox> http://openbsd-archive.7691.n7.nabble.com/Keyboard-repeats-characters-way-to-often-td351465.html
04:49 < jrmu> thanks lennox , will take a look soon
04:49 < lennox> https://www.reddit.com/r/openbsd/comments/gsx74q/installing_67_on_dell_chromebook_11_repeating/
04:49 < lennox> links dead I guess I tried it was dead for me
04:50 < jrmu> yeah I had the same issue with repeating keys, and nabble.com's url didn't load for me, but I'll bet it's in the mailing list archives
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04:51 < jrmu> https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=153731430730029&w=2
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04:55 < jrmu> hm the proposed solution did not work for me
04:55 < jrmu> $ doas sysctl kern.timecounter.hardware=acpihpet0
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06:59 < pardis> zyxer: jrmu: MBR is required for BIOS booting, GPT is required for UEFI booting
06:59 < pardis> this is a limitation of the OpenBSD bootloader
06:59 < pardis> you don't need to know about this because the installer will pick the right one by default, unless you're doing an advanced configuration manually
07:01 < zyxer> Oh, I see. So other systems can use MBR on UEFI, just OpenBSD bootloader has issues with that?
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08:03 < elmatador> good morning everyone, I'm looking for a way to ensure hardware compatibility with openbsd (beyond the fact that the system "sees" it, will it work under intensive load ? ), a simple benchmark or perf test should do it i believe, do you know of any tools that allow such things ? (especially cpu, ram, nic). Thanks for your time !
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08:09 < CosmicDJ> I'd use https://github.com/ColinIanKing/stress-ng for CPU/RAM and iperf3 for NIC testing
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08:11 < elmatador> Great, I'll be looking into that thank you.
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13:14 < eea> i like fio for testing local and network shares
13:17 < sibiria> i like bananas
13:17 < zelest> you monkey!
13:17 < zyxer> If liking bananas make me a monkey then I am an ape
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13:18 < eea> ape together... strong
13:18 < eea> openbsd ftw!
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13:18 < zyxer> Alone we weak like a twig
13:19 < zelest> lol
13:19 < zyxer> Ok so I found out today that grub actually can boot BSD
13:19 < zyxer> *BSD
13:20 < zyxer> **BSD
13:20 < sibiria> it can boot anything
13:20 < sibiria> it's just a kludgy cursed thing to configure sometimes
13:20 < sibiria> like everything GNU...
13:20 < zyxer> Yea, but all I found before when I did the google was "grub cannot booty the BSD to thick and good"
13:21 < sibiria> yes, cannot booty too thicc and good
13:21 < zyxer> So I thought I had to reflash my librebooted thonkpads, and got a wrong BIOS version for one and soft bricked it
13:21 < zyxer> Now I need external flashing tools to save it
13:22 < zyxer> But I fixed it on my other (although I have to manually fix the settings at each reboot since the grub is flashed onto the BIOS chip)
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13:23 < eea> ...kludgy
13:23 < zyxer> Well, I guess exception is OpenBSD, it can be booted easily from SeaBIOS
13:23 < zyxer> Also easiest to install on macppc
13:23 < zyxer> It really just werks, even better than the portably praised NetBSD
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13:24 < zyxer> Like, the NetBSD ISO doesn't have the packages to allow you to partition iMac properly to be able to install and boot
13:24 < zyxer> I need to boot another OS or insert the drive into another PC and partition it 
13:25 < zyxer> Step 1: Get into OpenFirmware and do a setting
13:25 < zyxer> Just to be able to boot NetBSD
13:25 < zyxer> Open just, it just werks
13:26 < zyxer> And yes, I know the portability thing on net is refering to that it is easiest to port to other hardware, it tries to be hardware independent
13:26 < zyxer> But it gave the impression it is already properly ported to at least supported systems
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14:55 < oldlaptop> zyxer: actually using grub's kopenbsd directive isn't a very good idea; neither openbsd downstream nor (as far as I can tell) grub upstream care about it
14:56 < oldlaptop> libreboot seems to pay *some* attention, but not enough to (say) unbreak boot-time entropy (when last I looked anyway)
14:57 < oldlaptop> if you *can* practically load boot(8), you really want to
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16:15 < jrmu> I think my malfunctioning keyboard is related to this error: pckbc: command timeout
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16:32 < jrmu> I'm trying to get my trackpad and keyboard to function properly. The keyboard works great when the BSD bootloader is first started (I can type boot /bsd properly), but as soon as BSD itself loads up properly, the keypresses begin to duplicate. As for the trackpad, it currently does not detect any movements at all. Running xev shows absolutely no events, and synclient shows 'Couldn't find synaptics 
16:32 < jrmu> properties. No synaptics driver loaded?' Where should I go to make changes?
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16:38 < jrmu> If it helps: dmesg: https://paste.ircnow.org/0xqbg5avg1qfgtmbspuv usbdevs -v: https://paste.ircnow.org/4d27cti7gpa3whinkluf
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16:51 < thrig> bugs or some other mailing list might get more traction
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16:52 < coreystephanphd> zyxer: RE: GRUB booting OpenBSD -- I would assume that the easiest way to dual boot from 1 disk is simply to make 2 blank partitions, do the installations, and boot from the BIOS -- unless I am missing something obvious
16:52 < coreystephanphd> I never quite have understood why folks make *such* a big deal about wanting a bootloader to handle multiple OSes when every modern-ish BIOS has a 'choose disk' quick menu
16:53 < coreystephanphd> (again -- might be missing something)
16:55 < jrmu> yeah will probably send it to bugs@ soon
16:55 < lts> "The Marvin Attack is a return of a 25 year old vulnerability that allows performing RSA decryption and signing operations as an attacker with the ability to observe only the time of the decryption operation performed with the private key." https://people.redhat.com/~hkario/marvin/
16:55 < lts> This should be fun..
16:55 < lts> Not seeing LibreSSL there though
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17:07 < IcePic> coreystephanphd: took a LONG while before PCs could boot from any other device than first disk on first controller
17:08 < thrig> ... and some would sometimes randomly boot off the second disk, which had a leftover linux bootloader on it ...
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17:22 < phy1729> Clearly naddy@ should use zsh  kdump -t <tab> works just fine
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17:31 < coreystephanphd> thrig: IcePic: I know that proprietary OSes do not play nicely still, of course, but I did not know that history. Alright, then.
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17:46 < zyxer> coreyst: My BIOS has no boot option on one laptop. Unless it is well hidden there is no boot menu. I have to get into BIOS and change boot order. 
17:47 < zyxer> On the other laptop, it is librebooted and SeaBIOS cannot boot most BSDs
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17:51 < vortexx> zyxer: even if you press F12 ? (a lot of laptops use that for the boot menu)
17:51 < vortexx> how do you boot off USB then?
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18:29 < jrmu> upgrading to snapshots fixed my wifi \o/ although the keyboard and trackpad are still malfunctional
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18:31 < nature> Awesome, which computer is this on?
18:33 < jrmu> HP Chromebook 11 G5 Setzer
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18:40 < zyxer> vortexx: I go into BIOS as set USB to first boot device.
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18:54 < nature> I setup relayd to forward tls traffic to localhost but without tls and I am getting some handshake errors: "TLS handshake error: handshake failed: error:1400442E:SSL routines:CONNECT_CR_SRVR_HELLO:tlsv1 alert protocol version"
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18:56 < nature> I've been doing something similar to https://wiki.ircnow.org/index.php?n=Relayd.Acceleration?from=Openbsd.Relayd#toc-4
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19:06 < coreystephanphd> zyxer: Oh, I did not know that about SeaBIOS. Well, obviously libreboot > convenience of boot device picking, every time
19:08 < zyxer> It can be made better but issue is that I would need to reflash it with proper rom (e.g. ROM with SeaBIOS in text mode instead of frame buffer)
19:08 < zyxer> And I already made mistake and soft bricked another device. Now I need to do external flashing to save it which is a big hassle
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19:14 < nature> I think I might've stumbled into a bug in relayd :/
19:15 < nature> So doing something like that: https://0x0.st/HVx4.txt
19:16 < nature> Doesn't work as expected, I would expect traffic to localhost to be forwarded without tls and traffic to aries to be forwarded with tls
19:16 < nature> But that is not the case, all the traffic to localhost AND to aries is forwarded WITH TLS
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19:28 < nature> Am I not understanding something with relayd.conf relays or does this warrant the use of sendbug(1)?
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19:59 < dayid> So my daily(8)/security(8) keeps warning me about: "Checking configuration files: Plus sign in /etc/hosts.lpd file." The first day I thought it was just because it was a new/change. But it keeps reminding me (as if it's a problem). Yet, direct from lpd(8): "A plus "+" may be used as a wildcard to grant access to all hosts" --- any thoughts?
20:00 < dayid> I get that security checks for "insecurities" in the lpd, but I'm not understanding/yet-agreeing that allowing all hosts (since the machine is already secured for lpd via PF/LAN etc) why it's still telling me that
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20:02 < dayid> from /usr/libexec/security: "323 # hosts.lpd should not have + signs." --- Seems strange to want that, but then essentially recommmend it elsewhere :/
20:03 < avemestr> Where is it recommended?
20:03 < dayid> direct in lpd(8)
20:04 < uwharrie> I don't get any kind of endorsement for its use, just that it's possible
20:04 < avemestr> 'A plus "+" may be used as a wildcard to grant access to all hosts'. MAY BE USED.
20:05 < avemestr> You may also do a lot of other stuff that is not recommended on the system.
20:05 < dayid> Yeah, I'm obviously aware of how to read, but neither of that answers why it's a thing for security to nag.
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20:06 < dayid> As I certainly doubt that security(8) doesn't do this for no reason, nor do I doubt that there's random/unnecessary information in lpd(8).
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20:08 < uwharrie> Probably because it's a bad idea to expose lpd to the entire world and the check isn't sophisticated enough to analyze other mechanisms
20:09 < thrig> and if someone did want a + for some reason they'd either fiddle with or disable the security script
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20:11 < phy1729> it's been in security since 1992 https://github.com/weiss/original-bsd/commit/353a346c7c34656c7be166b15b965d3a2d9b08d3
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20:14 < dayid> Yeah, so way predating a bunch of other stuff. I just hate fidding with security vs giving it a flag or config to bypass that bit -- just because I hate to fork from mainline when unnecessary.
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20:20 < uwharrie> it rejects a lone +, but appears to allow +@domain
20:21 < uwharrie> hmm, for YP domains
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20:24 < dayid> it complaints about _any_ +, but likewise it seems a bit unwieldy to add _all_ hosts; not unrealistic, just not preferred to manage another thing
20:24 < uwharrie> ah, can also use netgroup(5)
20:24 < dayid> especially when access to the service/network/port etc is already being handled elsewhere (which sure, security doesn't know about)
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20:26 < thrig> 1992 was pretty early in the firewall era
20:28 < uwharrie> the check is `nag /^\+/ && !/^\+@/` so it looks like the accepted method is to define the DNS domains allowed and call them out instead
20:39 < dayid> yeah, frankly surprised this is my first noticing of this, seems like anyone still using lpd would've addressed this somehow vs just mod'ing or disabling the security check
20:40 < dayid> thrig: absolutely
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21:39 < nature> Is this normal behavior in relayd, when I have the following relay: https://0x0.st/HVx4.txt
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21:40 < nature> tls is used both for locahost and aries. But I expected tls would be used only for aries
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21:42 < uwharrie> difficult to say with a snippet of the config file and no logging or packet dump
21:43 < nature> I mean I am sure that tls is used for both forward statement, I made some tests.
21:43 < nature> I just expected the forwards to only use tls where I tell it to
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21:51 < nature> So is there no way to use only tls on specific forward statements in a relay block like this?
21:52 < uwharrie> difficult to say with a snippet of the config file and no logging or packet dump
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21:53 < nature> So is a packet dump really gonna help you answer that question?
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21:55 < nature> That's what I get when trying to forward a connection to the <localhost> table:
21:56 < nature> "Sep 28 23:54:34 server1 relayd[61730]: relay https4, session 194 (2 active), 0, 46.23.92.148 -> 127.0.0.1:8080, TLS handshake error: handshake failed: error:1400442E:SSL routines:CONNECT_CR_SRVR_HELLO:tlsv1 alert protocol version, [Host: www.blazebone.com] [/] GET: Undefined error: 0"
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21:57 < nature> But this happens simply because the local httpd is not expecting any tls connection, hence my "forward to <localhost>" clause having no "with tls"
21:58 < nature> so using a "forward with tls" only once in a relay block seems to affect all the other "forward to" statements in that block
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21:58 < nature> Is this wanted/normal behavior of relayd?
22:00 < nature> I could also encrypt traffic to locahost, but this would complexify my setup and what is the point of encrypting traffic staying on localhost?
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22:23 < nature> Well maybe I could have all the traffic inside of my lan unencrypted...
22:23 < nature> How bad of an idea is that?
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22:25 < thrig> a lan might use wireguard
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