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07:49 < quinq> .
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07:54 < quinq> Hey, wasn't there a nice tool to list system files not part of base install, for clean-up purposes?
07:54 < quinq> I can't remember its name
07:54 < IcePic> sysclean
07:54 < IcePic> in ports
07:55 < quinq> sysclean.
07:55 < quinq> haha yeah, thanks IcePic 
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09:01 < nedko> On my MIPS router, I'm replacing the systemd-debian firewall software with OpenBSD (already installed at 7.4) and I'm following the "OpenBSD PF - Building a Router" guide. There is one difference in my setup tho. the router has no wifi and i use AP device attached to one its downstream (intranet ports) and this is set with an virtual eth bridge on the stock vendor linux
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09:02 < nedko> i wonder if i should set it this way, with a virtual bridge, with openbsd
09:03 < nedko> i guess i can switch to two /24 subnets (as in example) no less
09:04 < nedko> or get another gigabit switch to put near the router and connect the AP to it
09:06 < nedko> to install openbsd on openbsd i first expanded the openbsd portion in MBR to almost full size of the flash storage, leaving some place for another fat partition where filesystem was created and where i've put the 7.4 installation files set
09:07 < nedko> when the additional partition was mounted by the installer, i got ~ truncated (to 8 chars?) names, so i used '!' and mounted by hand so to install
09:09 < nedko> s/install openbsd on openbsd/install openbsd on octeon/
09:13 < nedko> in future i'd like to deploy new versions of the firewall software with a tool that can be configured with the settings of the router, to result in /etc/ of the to be booted for first time image
09:14 < nedko> "ansible" but with output of an image file to be written on (flash) bootable "disk"
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09:16 < nedko> on the router i've chosen not to enable the openssh server, coz i have uart console access already anyway
09:17 < CosmicDJ> nedko: like site.tgz? https://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq4.html#site
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09:20 < nedko> CosmicDJ: that would be the /etc tweak part. the idea here is more than this tho - to have raw disk image as result
09:21 < nedko> like almost directly usable miniroot or install74.img (for mips-octeon in my case, but i want same for (arm32 or arm64) and (openbsd or linux)
09:23 < nedko> in perfect case it will be not almost but directly bootable armed and online as soon as it boots
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09:25 < nedko> i also want it for ladios, a linux distro, where i currently the best i have is to use shell scripts and chroot
09:27 < nedko> s/where i/where/
09:28 < nedko> where are the scripts used to create install74.img?
09:28 < nedko> are they public?
09:28 < IcePic> I think they are under src/distrib
09:30 < nedko> thanks
09:30 < IcePic> perhaps "man release" has something on it too
09:31 < nedko> will check, thanks again IcePic (and CosmicDJ too)
09:32 < IcePic> I would probably not disable ssh on a router (at least not on the inside), mostly because scp/sftp is a nice way to xfer lots of data if I ever need it
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09:33 < jfsimon1981_b> Good morning
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09:39 < il> Mornin'
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10:01 < jfsimon> I see many errara in the ARM cores, i'm working on a preliminary design for embedded electronics.
10:02 < jfsimon> I'm not familiar with the arm64, if anyone has seen reliability issues with OpenBSD on it, i'd be interested to know
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11:37 < rIMpossible> Hello
11:39 < jfsimon> Hi
11:42 < rIMpossible> Is anyone using 'unbound adblock' from geoghegan.ca? I have installed it on a fresh 7.4 install and get a segmentation fault (core dumped). I installed, as recommendation, ripgrep and mawk, too. How can I find out what caused the segmentation fault?
11:57 < byteskeptical> ktrace
12:01 < CNOT> maybe run the program with gdb and print the stacktrace when it segfaults? idk
12:01 < byteskeptical> rIMpossible: i would try without the extra packages first
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12:03 < byteskeptical> rIMpossible: while mawk and ripgrep do provide a performance boost in reality this script usually runs in the background and the difference between a extra seconds of run-time will probably never be noticed
12:03 < rIMpossible> byteskeptical: thank you
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12:15 < rIMpossible> byteskeptical: removing ripgrep and mawk worked. In OpenBSD 7.3, unbound-adblock worked with the both additions.
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12:29 < nedko> s/ttyS0/the uart console/
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16:47 < deltahotel> hi, what's the maximum length of bios password?
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16:49 < thrig> please state the nature of the OpenBSD emergency
16:52 < deltahotel> no emergency
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17:02 < thumbs> Surely, that would depend on the bios manufacturer?
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17:05 < thrig> stop calling me Shirley
17:06 < phy1729> They also already left
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17:14 < Zyxer> Damn, 12 hour shifts leave 0 minutes to initialise the old pre sysupgrade upgrade
17:15 < Zyxer> But after this shift, tomorrow morning, I shall try to compile on my old piece of shit. Preferably I will look up how to cross compile, so I can use my server to compile the macppc thing
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19:18 < tercaL> I'm planning to set two VPS' to be authoritative nameserver (primary/secondary) for my domains. Only PowerDNS will be running on both, nothing else. The hardware specs of the VPS' are pretty low, I'd like to ask; is there any default service under OpenBSD so that I can disable, to save some RAM? Or some unnecessary (for my case above) cronjobs running behind?
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19:20 < mischief> tercaL: have you actually looked at what runs on the system?
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19:24 < tercaL> mischief: smtpd, sndiod, slaacd are the ones I don't know if such setup would need them or not. Any other stuff like ssh, resolv, ntpd, unwind are ok to me.
19:26 < thrig> you could maybe wire up email to elsewhere with msmtp or something
19:26 < codermattie> tercaL: the servers should be on seperate machines, geographically seperated
19:26 < tercaL> codermattie: Yeah, I've read the RFC standards, it has even been suggested to be 1 primary and 2 secondary, total of 3 servers in different geos.
19:27 < tercaL> thrig: Hmm..
19:28 < thrig> or disable all the email and do monitoring by some other means (maybe you then need to run a monitoring client or something)
19:28 < mischief> how low is 'pretty low'?
19:29 < mischief> my firewall running tor and unbound and some other random crap is barely eating 150M of real memory
19:29 < mischief> Memory: Real: 152M/3275M act/tot Free: 4452M Cache: 1720M Swap: 0K/8236M
19:29 < tercaL> 512 MB of RAM, single CPU core
19:32 < mischief> i think you're unlikely to run into any memory problems on a headless server with a default install
19:32 < mischief> maybe relinking eats more than that though
19:32 < ssm_> my general-purpose vps (mail, znc, gotwebd, httpd, dovecot) is using 109M
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22:10 < tercaL> pkg_add ImageMagick-6.9.12.88p0 gives me, after fetching few libraries; "Can't install ImageMagick-6.9.12.88p0: can't resolve djvulibre-3.5.28p1,libheif-1.16.2p0" and then; "Couldn't install ImageMagick-6.9.12.88p0 djvulibre-3.5.28p1 libheif-1.16.2p0." This is a fresh OpenBSD 7.4 release. My installurl is pointed to cdn.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD. Any idea?
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22:12 < tercaL> Any other php packages were installed fine.
22:12 < tercaL> But pecl80-imagick-3.7.0p1 and ImageMagick fail.
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22:25 < xse> tercaL: try a non-cdn mirror, i'm using ftp.fr.openbsd.org which seem to have those
22:26 < tercaL> xse: Just tried ftp.eu.openbsd.org, same result. Will try ftp.fr now.
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22:28 < tercaL> xse: Nope, same thing. Here's what actually happens; https://i.ibb.co/G0wbGf5/terminal-sshot.png
22:30 < quinq> cdn stands for content disappearing network
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22:32 < quinq> Error in djvulibre-3.5.28p1: @tag gtk-update-icon-cache definition not found
22:32 < quinq> That doesn't seem to be a package access issue, but the package itself
22:33  * tercaL feels like the problem is bigger.. *sighs.
22:34 < xse> i'm not sure then, i tried installing imagemagick, went without issue on 7.4 stable https://0x0.st/HJgF.txt
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22:36 < oldlaptop> tercaL: What architecture is that?
22:36 < tercaL> oldlaptop: amd64
22:37 < quinq> Maybe it's missing a dependency on gtk-update-icon-cache
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22:37 < oldlaptop> I would expect xse's to fail also if it's really a problem with the package
22:38 < oldlaptop> (unless my inference that that's an openbsd.amsterdam VM is incorrect)
22:38 < quinq> Not necessarily, if you read what I said just above
22:39 < quinq> xse would already have that package installed, which would let djvulibre install sucessfuly
22:39 < oldlaptop> what you just said above doesn't make very much sense, AIUI that is not a package name
22:39 < quinq> Yeah, I don't know what exact package provides it, but you get the idea, no?
22:41 < quinq> Actually that's (almost) the package name https://openports.pl/search?file=bin%2Fgtk-update-icon-cache
22:42 < quinq> tercaL, can you try installing that package, and then ImageMagick?
22:42 < tercaL> quinq: Sure, trying it now.
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22:44 < oldlaptop> https://man.openbsd.org/pkg_create.1#@tag reads as though it should not care whether the package with the matching definition is installed (which is of course a different thing from whether it actually does)
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22:44 < tercaL> quinq: it installs fine it seems: https://ibb.co/6rpDj9H
22:44 < oldlaptop> https://cvsweb.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/ports/x11/gtk%2b4/pkg/PLIST-guic?rev=1.5&content-type=text/x-cvsweb-markup does indeed have the matching definition
22:45 < quinq> Well, that one yes tercaL, but does it solve the ImageMagick install issue? ^^
22:46 < tercaL> quinq: Solved! Thanks a lot.
22:46 < quinq> Cool! You're welcome
22:46 < oldlaptop> That's a bug somewhere, then
22:46 < xse> weird one, might need to be reported yeah
22:47 < oldlaptop> whether in pkg_add or in one or more of the package definitions I don't know
22:49 < xse> indeed it was already there in my case "can't delete gtk4-update-icon-cache-4.12.3 without deleting neovim-0.9.1p0"
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22:49 < oldlaptop> (It certainly doesn't seem likely that it could be that something is "missing a dependency" on gtk4-update-icon-cache, given that the first picture-of-a-log shows pkg_add trying to install gtk4-update-icon-cache to satisfy a dependency)
22:51 < oldlaptop> It appears to be *in* at least the first (djvulibre's) dependency tree too - the picture-of-a-log doesn't show us the whole log, however.
22:52 < oldlaptop> ("n-cache-4.12.13")
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23:03 < vortexx> tercaL: I had problems upgrading imagmagick on 7.4, I ended up deleting all packages and reinstalling them
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23:03 < vortexx> (I didn't have ImageMagick as a selected package, it was being pulled in by many other packages)
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23:14 < tercaL> vortexx: In an another box, happened to me too, but this one being completely new, fresh setup, nothing was installed at all. Tried to install it as the first package.
23:15 < tercaL> Thank you guys. Much love <3
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