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08:38 < zyxer> Good Morning!
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10:31 < naraic> hey, i'm looking for some help with some ssh client configuration, i hope this is a good place for that... i just want to expand the provided ssh argument hostname into a `LocalForward` target address in the ssh config, but it doesn't seem to be recognised... i'm using %n for it. i tried with ssh -vvv but i dunno if i should expect the logs there
10:31 < naraic> to show the substituted token or not, but it's still showing the %n in the logs...
10:31 < naraic> like...
10:31 < naraic> `$ ssh some-host`
10:31 < naraic> and in my ssh_config
10:31 < naraic> ```
10:31 < naraic> Match Host some-*
10:31 < naraic>   Hostname jumpA
10:31 < naraic>   LocalForward 1234 %n.targetB:1234
10:31 < naraic> ```
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10:35 < naraic> oh, and the error i get is:
10:35 < naraic> channel 3: open failed: administratively prohibited: open failed
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10:41 < naraic> ah, from sshd logs i can see that it's trying to connect to a host with %n in the name, so it's definitely not substituting the token... the version is OpenSSH_9.0p1
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11:45 < bountyht> There are pills with 20 mg worth of stuff but it is usually 2 melatonin 18 somewthing els2
11:45 < bountyht> Sorry, wrong window
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11:47 < brocashelm> InsomniaBSD
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13:22 < tercaL> Trying to implement PowerDNS to be authoritative server for my domains under OpenBSD. pdns has a "guardian" mode, basically it's a process that restarts the pdns process if it crashes, which is an important fact for DNS purpose. However it's been said that; "auto-restart is disliked in OpenBSD land, becuase it "hides issues" and that, OpenBSD won't auto-restart it for you", adding; "It's the general policy of OpenBSD to not do restarting." So, any clue on 
13:22 < tercaL> that matter, does anyone here use powerdns on OpenBSD with guardian mode enabled?
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13:28 < IcePic> tercaL: it has very little to do with powerdns specifically
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13:28 < IcePic> it is more a choice between "if someone tries to hack me, will I let this person get 1,10 or a million attempts"
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13:29 < IcePic> then you weigh that against "how important is it to keep the dns up 24/7"
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13:30 < IcePic> people I know who run serious DNS servers tend to run different daemons on the different DNS servers so that no single kind of bug should take down the whole service.
13:30 < tercaL> I see...
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13:31 < tercaL> IcePic: Perfectly legit idea.
13:31 < IcePic> in this case, a crashing daemon might be left dead until you can analyse the root cause, since the others would probably be able to take the load until you can decide if you want to restart it or not
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13:32 < IcePic> of course, each of the published ips might in turn be lots of anycasted or carp/vrrp'd boxes, so they would probably not be single machines running a single program, but still..
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13:33 < IcePic> one of the operators of the I-root DNS server talked at one of my openbsd conferences, at the time, they anycasted their single ip to something like 41 locations around the world.
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13:40 < tercaL> Truly remarkable information, thanks a lot IcePic.
13:41 < tercaL> Oh, any link to that conference?
13:41 < tercaL> I'd love to watch/listen.
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13:57 < Voyager_MP> is there a simple way of removing all packages ?
13:57 < Voyager_MP> like rm -rf /usr/local/*
13:58 < ssm_> Voyager_MP: pkg_delete -X
13:58 < Bradipo> I usually do: pkg_info | awk '{ print $1 }' | xargs pkg_delete -v
13:58 < Voyager_MP> thx
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14:01 < Bradipo> Didn't know about pkg_delete -X, but pipeline is more in the tradition of Unix. ;-)
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14:01 < Bradipo> -X is more in the tradition of ls(1).
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14:02 < ssm_> Bradipo: would xargs rerun pkg_delete for every package? you could lose logs on groups/users you might want to delete in the stdout flood
14:03 < ssm_> I mean you could just redirect output to a file I guess
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14:03 < ssm_> or you just use -J
14:03 < Bradipo> I'm not sure how to answer that.  Does "pkg_delete -X" do something more or less than "pkg_delete -v <allpackages>"?
14:03 < ssm_> s/-J/xargs -J/
14:04 < Bradipo> Why is -J necessary?
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14:04 < ssm_> well, all the deletion messages (you should run /usr/sbin/userdel foo) will be accumulated at the end instead of scattered all over the log
14:04 < ssm_> since it would run as one pkg_delete command
14:05 < Bradipo> Well, "xargs pkg_delete -v" will only invoke pkg_delete more than once if there are too many arguments, but you have a point.
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14:05 < Bradipo> In this case, pkg_delete -X may be better if one follows all the suggestions that are output.
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14:06 < ssm_> I'm thinking of xargs -I I think
14:06 < ssm_> which is like find -exec \;
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14:07 < Bradipo> I think that would be worse.
14:07 < ssm_> useful for openssl commands :)
14:07 < Voyager_MP> Error Reading Anchor / (DIOCGETRULES): Device busy     
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14:08 < Voyager_MP> I get this since 7.4 
14:08 < Bradipo> If your goal is to read the output at the end of the pkg_delete command, then find -exec \; isn't what you want.
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14:08 < Voyager_MP> but I don't use anchor's 
14:08 < Bradipo> Voyager_MP: When do you get that error?
14:08 < Voyager_MP> pftop -v label 
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14:13 < Voyager_MP> after round about 10 min running pftop 
14:14 < Bradipo> So it doesn't fail at first, just after the passage of time?
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14:15 < Voyager_MP> yes
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14:17 < Bradipo> Do you have any services that might take advantage of anchors?  e.g. authpf or something else?
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14:20 < Voyager_MP> no
14:21 < Voyager_MP> I just setup vxlan on this machine 
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14:22 < Bradipo> Well, whether or not you actually have any anchors defined, there may be a "root" anchor, and perhaps that's what the / in  your output means.
14:23 < Bradipo> pfctl(8) says: To print the main ruleset recursively, specify only `*' as the anchor name:
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14:23 < Bradipo> pfctl -a '*' -sr
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14:24 < Bradipo> Sounds like pftop however may need an update or something.
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14:24 < Bradipo> Clearly something has changed with pf and perhaps the kernel and pftop may be doing something that it shouldn't now.
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19:50 < ssm_> https://0x0.st/HtnR.log Think my suspicions about picom causing X to hang were correct
19:51 < ssm_> it recovered after a few minutes, which is why I have this log
19:53 < ssm_> maybe if I used xrender backend and ran picom with xrender-sync-fence this wouldn't happen?
19:55 < Bradipo> What is xrender-sync-fence?
19:55 < ssm_> Bradipo: picom arg, Use X Sync fence to sync clients' draw calls, to make sure all draw calls are finished before picom starts drawing. Needed on nvidia-drivers with GLX backend for some users.
19:56 < Bradipo> Oh, never used picom.  I do have  one laptop with nvidia in it I think.
19:56 < ssm_> if you read the dmesg, before the flood of errors the last log is `Asynchronous wait on fence :picom[53168]:11db60 timed out (hint:0xffffffff8203fd50s)
19:56 < Bradipo> Yeah, I saw that.
19:56 < ssm_> just a hunch
19:57 < ssm_> although it says to use it with glx backend?
19:59 < ssm_> whatever I'm gonna use it with xrender and see what happens
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22:37 < Filystyn> hi, do we have R julia or marple on openbsd ?
22:39 < brocashelm> is there anything i could use to display cpu sensors on xfce panel?
22:39 < brocashelm> or does i3 support this instead?
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22:47 < dostoyevsky2> Filystyn: R can be installed via ports https://www.ports.to/path/math/R.html ...  Maxima doesn't support OpenBSD, but you could use https://www.ports.to/path/math/maxima.html which is opensource.... Julia has no port, but you should be able to build it from source, but you'd need to adjust the shell commands a bit
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22:48 < Filystyn> thankyou
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22:50 < typicat> brocashelm, CPU Graph
22:51 < dostoyevsky2> Filystyn: is sympy similar to Maple?  https://www.sympy.org/en/index.html (that would be a package you can install for python)
22:51 < typicat> comes in with the xfce-extras package
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22:52 < Filystyn> dosto i honestly need a scripting language for commands that do some math 
22:52 < Filystyn> and so the arrays would be supported
22:53 < dostoyevsky2> Filystyn: sympy should have you covered
22:53 < Filystyn> sympy is python ?
22:53 < brocashelm> typical: yeah, i got the cpu graph plugin, but it doesn't show me the variable of the temp
22:53 < brocashelm> i meant stuff like xfce4-sensors-plugin if a similar one existed
22:54 < brocashelm> is it impossible to change it from linux to openbsd on getting the temp?
22:54 < brocashelm> same as with htop (which tells temps on linux, but not openbsd)
22:54 < brocashelm> i otherwise have to run sysctl hw.sensors each time
22:54 < dostoyevsky2> Filystyn: Yeah, and it integrates with numpy: https://docs.sympy.org/latest/modules/numeric-computation.html  (So you'd have sympy for symbolic math and numpy for vector/matrix data types)
22:55 < typicat> ah sorry, i didnt read properly
22:56 < Filystyn> ok thank you for help ;-)
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