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01:39 < emmanuelux> is there an option in wireguard to try reconnect if my isp is rebooting its box...
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01:49 < fro> i don't understand the question
01:49 < fro> but i don't think wg auto-reconnects
01:50 < fro> you should wait around for someone with more information to chime in
01:51 < fro> there's also #wireguard
01:53 < phy1729> man ifconfig   /wgpka
01:53 < vortexx> wireguard does autoreconnect
01:55 < vortexx> once the wg interface up it will continue to run the connection and if it loses connectivity to the other endpoint it will persist retrying until it works
01:56 < phy1729> Only if there's traffic to send
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02:00 < emmanuelux> keep alive is not enough
02:01 < emmanuelux> my isp reboot connection every 2 weeks or mounth, and I lost wg (handshake not shown)
02:01 < emmanuelux> I need just sh /etc/netstart wg0 so a crontab script could do it 
02:02 < emmanuelux> to ckeck handshake
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02:03 < phy1729> Try setting wgpka and then reboot the modem and see if it works. I suspect it's sufficient.
02:07 < emmanuelux> phy1729, i had wgpka 20 on both side
02:11 < emmanuelux> what can i saw when my ISP disconnect, IPV4 (and IPV6) on the interface disapear (normal) and wireguard do not try to get a handshake after IP apears again
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02:24 < oldlaptop> emmanuelux: if one side's IP changes, the link isn't going to work until it sends some traffic to the other side
02:25 < oldlaptop> and unless there's some kind of bug, rerunning /etc/netstart shouldn't really change much of anything - can you paste hostname.wg0 somewhere, perhaps?
02:26 < emmanuelux> it is on a rdomain maybe ?
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02:28 < oldlaptop> (I should add - don't include any of the keys if you paste hostname.wg0 somewhere...)
02:29 < emmanuelux> my hostname.wg0 : rdomain 30 / wgkey ....... / wgpeer ...... wgaip 0.0.0.0/0 wgpka 20 wgendpoint x.x.x.x x / inet 192.168.30.2/24 / !route -T30 add -inet default 192.168.30.1 / up
02:30 < oldlaptop> I'd venture a guess that !command is all that's actually needed to "reconnect" it.
02:32 < emmanuelux> i have mtu 1420 too
02:33 < emmanuelux> tested with ping -V30 -D -s 1392 192.168.30.1
02:34 < emmanuelux> it is my fault, other side wireguard has no keepalive
02:35 < emmanuelux> i remove it sometime ago dont know why
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02:35 < oldlaptop> That does make more sense.
02:35 < emmanuelux> yes sorry
02:35 < emmanuelux> side server with open port
02:35 < emmanuelux> (openbsd amsterdam)
02:35 < oldlaptop> The side whose address changes is the one that should generally need keepalive
02:36 < oldlaptop> (and not even that if it has application-layer stuff that'll be chatty enough anyway)
02:36 < emmanuelux> i remove keeaplive on the server that has fixed IP
02:37 < oldlaptop> That shouldn't matter :|
02:37 < emmanuelux> the server dont know the new client IP
02:37 < emmanuelux> so it is not the pb
02:38 < oldlaptop> The peer whose address changes is the one that needs to send traffic over the wireguard link, through wgpka or otherwise - the mere act of doing so informs the other end of the new IP
02:39 < oldlaptop> If you can descibe this network configuration in detail (with pastes of hostname.if files, etc), there'd be less guesswork involved.
02:41 < oldlaptop> Still on the level of generalized advice, consider setting the `debug` option on the wireguard interface (on either side) with ifconfig (you'll see lots of extra information in dmesg that might prove helpful)
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02:42 < emmanuelux> ok hostname.wgo server side : https://pastebin.com/SfcipBhe
02:43  * oldlaptop wonders why *each* side has this rdomain business
02:44 < emmanuelux> and client side : https://pastebin.com/54JikYfM
02:45 < emmanuelux> i could remove it but it is to separate more
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02:48 < oldlaptop> you want *each* side to be able to route Internet traffic through the other one? (if not, what's the purpose of giving each one a default gateway?)
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02:51 < emmanuelux> yes some traffic yes
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06:58 < XFXF-100> Good morning! Does anyone has an idea, why all of the sudden WiFi on an iPhone 7, provided by OpenBSD 7.4 stopped working? Can ping (IPv4/6) e.g. google.de, but can't connect to HTTP; WiFI on Macintosh works flawlessly; no changes in config; IP is handed out via dhcpd, already tried to give out a different IP; no blocking for this specific (local) IP; happy about ideas / suggestions :-(
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07:21 < darwin> i installed php-gd and gd.ini says it's gd.so.  Doing 'find / -iname gd.so' didn't find this
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07:22 < sonya> XFXF-100, hello, how's iked?
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07:23 < sonya> darwin, $ pkg_info -L php-gd | grep \.so
07:23 < sonya> XFXF-100, if you can `ping`, then assume dns works and all the rest
07:25 < darwin> i see.  It's there.  After adding it, apache2 crashed though
07:26 < XFXF-100> sonya iked works again :-)
07:26 < sonya> XFXF-100, !!!
07:26 < XFXF-100> sonya now this problem :-(
07:27 < sonya> XFXF-100, only thing i can suggest is to start wireless without auth and add auth later if it works
07:27 < sonya> but if you can ping
07:27 < sonya> already
07:27 < sonya> it means that all works, imo
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07:28 < XFXF-100> sonya O.K., will try out without enc
07:28 < XFXF-100> sonya in the middle of resetting the phone :-(
07:28 < sonya> good luck!
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14:20 < Maddie> Does anyone have experience with useing acme.sh & relayd? Relayd simply doesn't want to load my certificates and I'm unable to figure out the issue, I've tried a couple of things by now.  Maby relayd needs RSA certs? The certs I have are, I belive, ECC.
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14:24 < sibiria> might be that it doesn't know how to wrangle EC privkey. have you tried a dual rsa+ecdsa cert?
14:25 < sibiria> inspect your cert: openssl x509 -in <cert> -noout -text
14:27 < Maddie> Weird, it just gives an error.
14:27 < sibiria> the openssl invocation?
14:27 < sibiria> are ownership and perms correct?
14:27 < Maddie> https://emailaffinity.top/~mk/files/_o.a
14:28 < Maddie> Oh the error: https://emailaffinity.top/~mk/files/_p.a
14:28 < sibiria> i suppose you shouldn't share your private key, but, oh well :D
14:28 < sibiria> (perhaps pw-protected)
14:28 < sibiria> though doesn't look like it
14:28 < sibiria> time to make a new one!
14:29 < sibiria> inspect the CERTIFICATE
14:29 < sibiria> not the privkey
14:29 < Maddie> Worst case someone can MITM but thats dev box cert, I wouldn't share the real one lol.
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14:30 < sibiria> "openssl ec" to inspect EC key - though i'm sure the key is correct
14:31 < sibiria> e.g. openssl ec -check -in <key>
14:32 < Maddie> I discovered that the certificate was in the wrong location, so I've moved it and tried restarting but its giveing a new error.
14:33 < Maddie> Well thank your for your help, I'll try to debug this new issue, it seems to want an RSA key.
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14:36 < eea> welp, 1/4 of the way thru the 7.4 fleet upgrade. first couple hosts experienced 0 problems
14:36 < eea> blast fax kudos all around, another awesome release
14:36 < Maddie> eea: Sounds intresting.  Are you sshing into multiple servers and upgradeing whilist hopeing for the best or useing some kind of automation?
14:37 < eea> Maddie: sysupgrade FTW
14:37 < Maddie> eea: Yes but it sounds like you have multiple servers?
14:37 < eea> yea, up to 10 now
14:38 < eea> no automation, config mgmt is done with rdist
14:38 < Maddie> eea: So I'd asume you want to automate configs of those servers?
14:38 < Maddie> Never heard of rdist.
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14:39 < eea> too much of a lazy control freak to setup ansible or similar
14:39 < Maddie> eea: No idea what your use case is but its almost always worth it.
14:40 < eea> these servers all run some hosting stuff, nothing crazy and not for a business
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14:41 < eea> in my day job, with 10s of thousands of servers, automation is requires
14:41 < eea> required too
14:42 < Maddie> Its up to you.  I personally like automation for all my servers, even thinking about starting to automate my PCs. 
14:44 < eea> also, the configs of openbsd hosts rarely change
14:45 < eea> unless a release inlcudes some syntax changes
14:45 < eea> syntax or grammar
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14:58 < armin> I personally like Ansible even though I consider it much too bloated.
14:59 < armin> And I'd say most playbooks could have been a simple shellscript instead, too.
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14:59 < renaud> it all depends on how much servers you have
15:00 < renaud> for small amounts, I prefer using cssh
15:00 < eea> and how fluid their configs are
15:00 < armin> renaud: dunno, I'd start writing a playbook at more than 3 I guess.
15:01 < armin> renaud: But meh, Ansible is much too complex for what it's actually doing.
15:01 < renaud> well, it also depends on how much differences there are between them
15:01 < armin> yup
15:02 < renaud> At some point (ansible was not even a project), I wrote my own script do do what ansible does, but it was faster than ansible
15:02 < eea> yea, my use case has only openbsd base daemons and 2 types of configs, primary or secondary
15:02 < renaud> ansible is really slow
15:02 < eea> so keeping static configs makes life easy, even with 10 hosts
15:02 < renaud> and for less than 10 hosts, it's faster to use cssh
15:02 < eea> ^
15:03 < renaud> if you have over 10, it also depends on your screen estate :)
15:03 < armin> It also doesn't make use of things present in the operating system. Own SSH implementation, own gzip/tar implementation (doesn't thread, that will be SLOW if you try to archive some 30GB database dump), and so on.
15:04 < sibiria> agent-less ansible is just ssh, really
15:04 < armin> So the behaviour could always entirely differ from what you seen in your terminal with vanilla SSH. That's just bollocks.
15:04 < sibiria> but cssh is leaner for sure
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15:04 < armin> sibiria: no, it's Paramico.
15:05 < sibiria> no. agent-less ansible does not need python on the client side
15:05 < armin> (or paramiKo or something)
15:05 < sibiria> it just invokes ssh and executes stuff right off the bat
15:05 < renaud> but agent-less ansible is also more secure
15:05 < armin> sibiria: how does that work? I've never seen Ansible being able to use /usr/bin/ssh.
15:05 < sibiria> armin: runs ssh with command/argument
15:06 < sibiria> paramiko only required on client side if you want to use all the advanced stuff of ansible
15:06 < armin> Well Ansible is agentless by design, what do you mean?
15:07 < sibiria> normally ansible will connect to your endpoints using ssh and from there Do Stuff(tm) with python/paramiko on the remote end
15:07 < armin> It by default uses Paramiko even, so how exactly do you get it to do not?
15:08 < renaud> yes, it's not a real agent like other implementations
15:09 < sibiria> armin: the "raw" module is what you use
15:09 < sibiria> it has no python requirement for the remote
15:09 < sibiria> it *only* runs stuff via ssh
15:09 < sibiria> this is the agent-less mode
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15:10 < armin> Well there *is* no Ansible-agent.
15:11 < armin> And I think what you mean is using ansible.builtin.ssh - ansible.builtin.raw executes raw commands, that has nothing to do with SSH (even though you could abuse it for that).
15:11 < sibiria> i mean precisely what i said
15:11 < armin> No idea what you're talking then. :)
15:12 < sibiria> no dependencies on the remote end, besides ssh which by all rational means should not be considered a dependency these days
15:12 < sibiria> no need for python, no need for paramiko, no need for anything belonging to ansible's toolkit
15:12 < renaud> even windows has an ssh client nowadays :)
15:12 < armin> Well, I've never had to install anything on the servers I manage via Ansible+SSH.
15:12 < armin> No idea what you do there, but seems strange.
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15:13 < sibiria> not strange at all. ansible's modules are almost all written in python
15:13 < sibiria> a lot of them require python also on the remote end, not just the ansible end where the playbook is invoked from
15:13 < armin> sibiria: correct, but there's no need to install any of them to manage a host using Ansible+SSH.
15:13 < armin> sibiria: Ansible does that for you.
15:13 < eea> and paramiko is just the python flavor of sshv2, unless i have totally misunderstood its documentation.
15:14 < armin> eea: It's still not /usr/bin/ssh, it's an own implementation, so the behaviour could theoretically differ.
15:17 < sibiria> eea: that's what it is. full-python sshv2 
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15:44 < eea> sweet, 100% upgraded fleet now
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16:13 < A1ice> guys I have a questions, I'm try to install packages with ports tree, but system said build XXX need installed X11, how can I force build and install it, I dont wanna install x11 and I'm sure no X11 dependency of my packages
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16:16 < thrig> a) install x11 or b) ???
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16:18 < A1ice> I'm using a router, I can't stand a X11 on this system, and openbsd mirror do not have this architecture's pre-compiled packages
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16:19 < thrig> a) install x11 b) install x11 somewhere else and compile there c) ???
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16:23 < martian67> A1ice: its an unsupported config for building ports
16:24 < sibiria> A1ice: it's easiest to just accept this stupid caveat and accept losing ~250mb for storing Xenocara on the system
16:24 < martian67> some extra binaries on your system isnt going to make any difference
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16:24 < thrig> if you want to do the ??? bit then you'll need to figure things out manualy and probably won't get much help
16:24 < sibiria> it'll save you some hassle down the road during upgrades, too
16:24 < phy1729> Why are you using ports rather than packages?
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20:10 < Bradipo> One of my network interfaces (ure0) shows: media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT full-duplex,rxpause,txpause)
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20:10 < Bradipo> I'm wondering what rxpause and txpause in the ifconfig output mean.
20:11 < Bradipo> man ifconfig doesn't say anything about it.
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20:15 < eea> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethernet_flow_control#Pause_frame
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20:26 < Bradipo> eea: Does that mean that my NIC received such a frame from somewhere?
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20:26 < eea> Bradipo: no, it means your NIC supports that ethernet protocol "feature"
20:26 < Bradipo> Well, why doesn't it show it all the time?
20:26 < Bradipo> I'm plugged into a switch and it doesn't show it now.
20:26 < eea> something is turning it off and on?
20:27 < eea> no clue what would or why 
20:27 < Bradipo> That doesn't make sense.
20:27 < Bradipo> If it simply means that the NIC supports it, then why wouldn't it be shown all the time?
20:28 < Bradipo> It shows up when I plug the cable into a specific device.
20:28 < Bradipo> Which to me suggests perhaps that that device is sending pause frames.
20:28 < eea> that i can not answer... only pointing out that these are ethernet things not specific to ifconfig
20:28 < Bradipo> Right, so ifconfig(8) doesn't document it.  But it displays it.
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20:33 < ssm_> Bradipo: check manpage for your network interface maybe?
20:33 < ssm_> just throwing ideas at the pufferfish
20:33 < Bradipo> Yeah, thanks. :-)
20:34 < Bradipo> man em has nothing about "pause"
20:35 < ssm_> Bradipo: looking around, I think the manpage you may want is ifmedia(4)
20:35 < Bradipo> I see, I was looking for pause, not PAUSE
20:36 < Bradipo> IFM_ETH_RXPAUSE says it means it's enabled...
20:36 < Bradipo> I wonder who enabled it, I certainly didn't.
20:37 < eea> the card likely did, during heavy traffic...
20:37 < Bradipo> Or as I said, the "remote" peer sent a frame that enabled it?
20:38 < eea> yep
20:40 < Bradipo> Maybe I can disable with -mediaopt
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21:06 < ssm_> Bradipo: run `ifconfig [interface] media` to get a list of medias your interface supports
21:07 < ssm_> it'll be one of the supported media strings
21:07 < Bradipo> Right, but rxpause and txpause are not in the output of "ifconfig <if> media"
21:07 < ssm_> you can then put it in your /etc/hostname.interface (you can put it before 'up') to retain your media settings between sessions
21:14 < Bradipo> Yeah, well, I won't be messing with media options on ure0...
21:14 < Bradipo> It caused a panic.
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