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12:34 < Maddie> Does anyone know is there is a reflector-like program for OpenBSD to find out what the fastest CDN is?
12:34 < Maddie> fastest non CDN mirror relative to my server is?*
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12:39 < armin>  Maddie: there's some stuff you can find on GitHub: https://gist.githubusercontent.com/wilkart/e898d96c32a31cefab8c137f3723f2c1/raw/ca2d12d8b00cede27db540b91faaed43c5b1f823/openbsd-fastestmirror
12:39 < armin> Maddie: Maybe a good start. :)
12:40 < Maddie> armin: Thank you!
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12:44 < Maddie> armin: lol why is it declareing a list but never useing it and why isn't it sorting the output? Did you make it? No to be rude but just to share my improvements.
12:44 < armin> Maddie: I did not make that, no. :)
12:44 < armin> Maddie: I should have added that I would not blindly use that. :)
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12:45 < Maddie> I read the code, it was only a couple of lines.
12:45 < armin> yea I expected you to play around with it.
12:45 < armin> :D
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12:46 < sibiria> i always recommend ftp.eu.openbsd.org to anyone in or nearby the european continent
12:50 < quinq> It's way up North though
12:50 < armin> Maddie: curl -s https://www.openbsd.org/ftp.html | grep "href=\"https" | grep "nofollow" | awk -F\" '{print $2}' | while read line; do echo "Mirror: $line"; curl --output /dev/null -w %{time_total} -s --connect-timeout 1 "$line"; echo; echo; sleep 0.1; done
12:50 < armin> Maddie: this here iterates over all these mirrors and prints the response time below each.
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12:51 < armin> Maddie: but yea you get the point. :D
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13:02 < armin> Maddie: that code there makes zero sense to me, considering the whole construct, I agree.
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13:19 < zyxer> Ok so I just hit a wall. How can I expand / partition, if that even is possible?
13:20 < zyxer> Apparently it is more than full and no space left
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13:21 < zyxer> Can I somehow shrink home partition and add it to /?
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13:22 < zyxer> It is a server and I rather not reinstall it and redo everything. I did default install with FDE. Does OpenBSD use some logical disk thing? Or am I gonna have to reinstall everything with a bigger root partition?
13:23 < zyxer> Or can I clone the disk to a bigger drive and expand the / partition during cloning?
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13:24 < Maddie> armin: Okay it still sucks but I wasn't supposed to put that much effort into it, wanted it to look nice though... https://emailaffinity.top/~mk/files/b.openbsd-fastestmirror
13:26 < Maddie> zyxer: I have no idea if OpenBSD's FS supports shrinking but you can most definitylu create a new FS on a different drive and copy the data to it.  Sorry I may not be of much help.
13:28 < Maddie> zyxer: All I could find is growing not shrinking https://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq14.html#GrowPartition
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13:30 < zyxer> Why/how is /dev eating 800+mb?
13:30 < armin> Maddie: looks quite nice, thx for sharing
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13:31 < zyxer> /dev/rsd3
13:31 < zyxer> Wat
13:32 < zyxer> I disconnected USB that was sd3 yesterday
13:32 < brynet> You probably messed up a df of=.. argument and created a regular file under /dev.
13:32 < brynet> dd*
13:33 < brynet> just rm it
13:33 < zyxer> Yes, I did. I forgot the c at the end 
13:34 < zyxer> I thought nothing of it. But thanks was gonna ask if safe to rm it. One step ahead of me
13:35 < zyxer> thanks. My confusion of how /on auto layout would eat 1GB with what I installed is solved. 
13:35 < brynet> OpenBSD doesn't have a special devfs for /dev, it's just a directory with device nodes. So if you make any mistakes, you have to clean it up.
13:36 < zyxer> 👌
13:37 < zyxer> I can't del a user that was failed to add fue to full /
13:42 < zyxer> deleted user from /etc/master.passwd manually
13:43 < sibiria> don't edit master.passwd :S
13:43 < sibiria> nor etc-passwd/group. always use the system tools for it
13:44 < zyxer> What system tools? Also I still failed to add user, spwd.db.tmp exist
13:45 < sibiria> useradd/del/mod, groupadd/del/mod
13:45 < zyxer> It broke as I mentioned
13:45 < sibiria> then unbreak it by cleaning up in /
13:45 < zyxer> I did user add but it broke midway due to full root
13:45 < zyxer> Then I cleaned up
13:45 < zyxer> And tried useradd 
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13:45 < zyxer> "User exists"
13:46 < zyxer> I tried userdel (or deluser) and it said user not exist
13:46 < zyxer> What do here?
13:47 < sibiria> you may need to unbreak with pwd_mkdb
13:47 < zyxer> How?
13:48 < sibiria> try pwd_mkdb -u <the user stuck in limbo>
13:48 < sibiria> read the man-page
13:48 < zyxer> Is this counting as bug? I had accidentally written a dd to rsd3 and forgot the c, that filled up root without me noticing, and then I did useradd and all borked
13:48 < sibiria> it's not a bug
13:49 < sibiria> an understandable caveat at best
13:49 < zyxer> oh, pwd_mkdb is a command/program
13:50 < zyxer> I can't, spwd.db.tmp exists
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13:52 < zyxer> I meant bugg that if / is full adduser doesn't cleanup or fix. Tmp file was left and user left in master.passwd but no group or anything else. After cleanup userdel and adduser not work. 
13:52 < sibiria> remove the temporary files, try anew
13:53 < zyxer> I tried but forgot doas ok. 
13:54 < sibiria> what?
13:54 < sibiria> just su to root...
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13:54 < zyxer> it works, thanks
13:55 < zyxer> I tried to rm the tmp as normal user at first
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14:14 < Maddie> Does OpenBSD have uWSGI in the repo? I've checked, it looks like it supports OpenBSD, but its not available in the repo? I must be missing something.
14:16 < Maddie> Ight... https://uwsgi-docs.readthedocs.io/en/latest/WSGIquickstart.html
14:16 < Maddie> Weird how asking makes the solution apear from thin air.
14:17 < zyxer> Yes. 
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17:41 < ssm_> It's true, I'll spend hours on a problem, ask in IRC, and then seconds later I find the solution myself
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18:01 < thrig> worse is when you struggle and then someone looks at the code for five seconds and points out the error
18:11 < quinq> I don't know, that's still kind of a relief :D
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18:25 < beastie> thrig that's one of the best ways of error discovering, just show your code to a colleague, and you (yes, you) will discover the bug yourself, as soon as you start explaining what your code does.
18:26 < beastie> but if you just show your code, then the other will probably look at the correct place and will get the bug, and the price!!
18:27 < beastie> I got this hint back from a course on code debugging given to me in 1990
18:29 < quinq> aka rubber duck debugging
18:29 < beastie> but today's programmers normally are self teaching, and use google to (or worse, stackoverflow) to find the solutions to their coding, and end struggling with the code until someone comes around and gives the thing to chatGPT
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18:30 < beastie> quinq: I'm talking about the nineties, but that method is actually one I use as a last resource.
18:30 < quinq> That's an atemporal method
18:30 < quinq> Explaining the problem is half the solution
18:30 < beastie> writing the unit tests is the other half.
18:31 < quinq> :]
18:31 < quinq> Though writing unit tests for your own code isn't necessarily the best way
18:31 < beastie> i do it.
18:31 < beastie> mostly when I prepare to maintain my own code.
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18:32 < quinq> And unit test don't really spawn architectural bugs
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18:32 < quinq> But yeah, that's still useful most of the time
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18:35 < ox1eef_> Speaking of unit tests, when you want to test pf.conf and ensure it works as you'd expect, is there anything special to help with that ?
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18:35 < quinq> tcpdump
18:35 < thrig> load it, and have an automatic rollback after 30 seconds or so
18:36 < thrig> otherwise, test programs (e.g. nmap, or custom) that confirm something or the other
18:36 < ox1eef_> Alright. Thanks. Sounds like a shell script will be the way to go.
18:37 < thrig> maybe some test virts so you're not dooking around in production
18:37 < thrig> ... but then there's those issues that only appear in production
18:38 < ox1eef_> It is for my personal laptop. Kind of a sanity test to make sure rules I don't really test often are actually in effect.
18:38 < sibiria> "constantly break things" was a piece of hyped advice by some "famous" developer evangelist
18:39 < thrig> ... and then you end up doing tcpdump in production and writing some script to replay that production traffic in test ...
18:40 < ox1eef_> I had a weird situation where pf did not seem to be working at all. I normally disallow most traffic on re0 and only allow it on tun0, but that wasn't working. 'sysupgrade -s' fixed it, but still very weird. I want to catch that kind of situation early.
18:42 < thrig> logging, test packets
18:42 < ox1eef_> Roger.
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18:57 < Vuokko> Hi!
18:58 < Vuokko> Can anyone suggest KNF linter/code formatter?
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18:59 < Vuokko> I know it won't do everything but it would make my code readable when copypasting something
19:04 < thrig> or you could whack it with clang-format
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20:01 < ox1eef_> I've used crusty in the past for C code. You can usually configure it to follow whatever convention you're aiming for. But it often breaks between releases, and that's the main problem I had with it.
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