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07:34 < markand> that small spinner while fw_update is running is gucci
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07:41 < byteskeptical> anyone running current running into a crashing the latest firefox build? looks like a pledge or possibly w/x violation?
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08:10 < brocashelm> it was mentioned here the other day that even thunderbird was doing this
08:14 < byteskeptical> ah I must have missed that 
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08:18 < byteskeptical> brocashelm: was there a work-around that you know of, looking back through my irc messages but I think I may have missed that convo
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11:45 < Filystyn> guys is there way to chnae FUNC name in .so lib
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11:47 < Filystyn> want to avoid recompiling but will do if must...it's a legalc shitcode i know not very openbsd question but meaby someone did that. So basically i have FUNC -> gdk_init and want for example dgk_x11_init
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11:49 < inz> Since the length changes, you're probably out of luck. You could try some LD_PRELOAD trickery.
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11:51 < sonya> example how to change values in binaries is in $info gdb … but, as it's said before, length is important
11:51 < Filystyn> what do you mean by length. count of char func name ?
11:52 < sonya> yes
11:52 < Filystyn> oh mah  gotta write my own  shitty linker one day to understand why things like that matter o.O
11:53 < IcePic> recompile sounds lots easier
11:53 < Filystyn> Ok well i don't have binary source but have lib source I could just rename functions and recompile
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11:57 < Filystyn> ok thx for answers
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15:31 < orwell> Moin! I wasn't able to find out how i can set system wide environment variables like http_proxy. Do you have any idea?
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15:37 < thrig> login.conf can set the environment for some things
15:38 < orwell> ahhhh :setenv=xxx
15:38 < orwell> i remember
15:38 < orwell> thx
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16:15 < zyxer> Hi
16:22 < zyxer> I need some help with mounting an encrypted drive. I encrypted it like guide said.
16:23 < zyxer> I followed the bottom of this page: https://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq14.html
16:23 < zyxer> "Encrypting external disks"
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16:26 < zyxer> After reboot no mount
16:29 < zyxer> man bioctl only talks about how to encrypt
16:29 < zyxer> not how to decrypt and mount
16:30 < zyxer> it also mentions how to detach but not how to attach
16:31 < sibiria> you rebuild the array the same way you created it. that's how you attach
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16:33 < sibiria> e.g. bioctl -c C -l <label> softraid0, if using discipline "C"
16:33 < sibiria> then you'll get your new pseudodevice which you can mount as if it were regular storage
16:35 < joe9> Where can I find the details of the OpenBSD ABI? Is it the same as linux?
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16:41 < oldlaptop> No; for almost all purposes, you probably don't want to be concerned with ABI details at all
16:41 < joe9> I am doing some assembly programming
16:41 < oldlaptop> OpenBSD does not maintain ABI stability across releases, and also requires dynamically-linked binaries to make all system calls through libc.
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16:43 < joe9> where can I find the current ABI used?
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16:54 < joe9> Is there a place where I can find how the arguments (all arguments on the stack, return value in %rax, and such) are passed to the syscalls?
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16:58 < sibiria> the kernel source would be it
17:00 < martian67> joe9: the abi calling convention for AMD64 is the same system V one linux uses yes
17:01 < martian67> but due to changes in how syscalls work, its not as simple as that
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19:20 < joe9> martian67: thanks.
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19:37 < kzootech> Hello, world! I just setup a wireguard vpn for outbound traffic, after i did this i was having trouble with things like httpd and sshd not responding when sending traffic to the public ip because it was sending replies over the wireguard tunnel, i solved in in pf.conf with lines like "pass in on em0 proto tcp to port { ssh } reply-to aaa.bbb.ccc.1" where aaa.bbb.ccc.1 is the non vpn default route,
19:37 < kzootech> is this a good idea?
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19:39 < pardis> you could maybe omit the 'proto tcp to port ssh' and just have all inbound traffic on em0 reply-to that gateway
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19:40 < pardis> then you don't need to add a new port every time you install a new service
19:40 < pardis> but that's what reply-to is for, yes, no reason not to do it that way if that's the routing policy you want
19:40 < kzootech> i do want that part of it so i dont accidentally expose things i didnt intend
19:41 < pardis> well, you can do the reply-to with a match rule and then separately pass the ports you want
19:41 < pardis> might make your ruleset a bit neater
19:41 < pardis> but it's up to your preference, of course
19:41 < kzootech> i first tried with using rtable 1 and route -T 1 add default aaa.bbb.ccc.1 but it didnt seem to work for me
19:42 < kzootech> ah yeah, i might do that
19:42 < pardis> what does "didn't work" mean here?
19:42 < pardis> did you put em0 into rdomain 1?
19:42 < kzootech> no, would em0 have to be in rdomain 1?
19:42 < pardis> and did you configure sshd and httpd to listen in rdomain 1?
19:42 < pardis> you'd either need em0 in rdomain 1 or a pf rule to shift inbound traffic on em0 to rdomain 1
19:42 < kzootech> because i think that might not be ideal as i might want to turn the vpn on and off on a whim
19:43 < pardis> probably simplest to use reply-to for your use case
19:43 < kzootech> it seemed like adding em0 to rdomain 1 was going to be more of a headache when i switch the vpn off
19:44 < pardis> yes, you could get around that with pf.conf rules to change rdomains but at that point reply-to is far simpler anyway
19:44 < kzootech> cool, well ill probably change it to a match rule for all inbound to make it a bit cleaner
19:44 < kzootech> i juist wasnt sure if i was doing the "right" thing to make this work
19:44 < pardis> it's certainly not the wrong thing, whether it's the right thing depends on exactly how you want this to work
19:44 < pardis> and it sounds like it is the right thing to me
19:45 < kzootech> yeah i think its how i want it to work
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19:54 < kzootech> oh reply-to is not supported with a match it seems
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20:10 < pardis> oh okay, my bad then
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20:13 < orwell> How do I escape a : in login.conf? I'm trying to set http_proxy=http://proxy.domain.com but : seems to mean end of line.
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20:14 < metavoid> you can probably skip http://
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20:15 < orwell> If I export http_proxy I can't skip "http://". But anyway I have to esacape : because I have to specifiy the specific port too.
20:15 < quinq> \c      The string is replaced by the value of c.  This allows quoting an initial space or the \ character itself.
20:16 < quinq> Maybe \: works
20:16 < orwell> I already tried \ but it doesn't work.
20:16 < quinq> ok
20:17 < orwell> The exact line I'm trying is :setenv=http_proxy=http://proxy.domain.com:8080:\
20:18 < orwell> getcap -f /etc/login.conf -s setenv default
20:18 < orwell> outputs just: http_proxy=http
20:19 < quinq> Have you tried just quoting it?
20:20 < orwell> yes, it outputs: http_proxy="http
20:20 < quinq> meh
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20:27 < xse> orwell: \C
20:27 < byteskeptical> anyone know the current size requirements for compiling firefox specifically for /usr?
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20:30 < orwell> xse: Now I'm one step further...
20:30 < orwell> :setenv=http_proxy=http\C://proxy.domain.com\C:8080:\
20:30 < orwell> This outputs: http_proxy=http:
20:30 < xse> not escaped but represented by it https://man.openbsd.org/man3/cgetent.3#cgetnum()_and_cgetstr()_syntax_and_semantics
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20:31 < xse> like you replace the : entirely
20:31 < orwell> ahhhhhh
20:31 < orwell> this works!
20:31 < orwell> thx
20:31 < quinq> \c, \C    (:)                  colon
20:31 < quinq> nice
20:31 < quinq> gg xse 
20:32 < orwell> that was a hard one :D
20:35 < orwell> http_proxy in login.conf works for pkg_add but not for e.g. curl :/
20:36 < orwell> nvm works for root but not for $USER. I have to check login class memberships
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20:48 < sonya> orwell, there's another way.. put all required vsriables in ~/.profile (or similar for console) and in ~/.xsession for X… for several users it works.. login.conf works for login class (userinfo to look at)
20:48 < sonya> ^variables
20:48 < thrig> and then worry about cron jobs, etc
20:49 < orwell> sonya, this doesn't seem to be the best practice to me
20:49 < sonya> crontab is a place for variables - so..
20:49 < sonya> not the best
20:50 < sonya> if requirements are global - may be it's worth to set 'em in /etc/rc.local..
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20:52 < orwell> why not login.conf? There seemed to be a reason to add a setenv parameter.
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20:53 < sonya> orwell, login.conf is a tricky thing.. it's best to call $login after each changes made to it.. and it's for login class definition.. 
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20:54 < sonya> if you need to set smth globally/(in general) - imo, it's best to do it dumb simple
20:55 < sonya> and /etc/rc.{local,securelevel} - are the places for a dumb simple things..
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20:57 < orwell> I don't get how you would export an environment variable in rc.local for all users
20:58 < sonya> orwell, ok' check it up.. thought that export should work.. my fault if it is not..
20:59 < sonya> report be in a minutes
20:59 < thrig> various things will reset the environment
20:59 < orwell> I set http_proxy in login.conf but I just can see the environment variable if I use doas. e.g. doas -u $USER env. Any idea what's wrong and why I don't see http_proxy without doas?
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21:05 < sonya> orwell, my fault, was wrong
21:06 < sonya> user's shell start from their default
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21:08 < sonya> orwell, doas creates a new env.. sudo allowed more flexibleway to set envs
21:11 < orwell> doas only creates a new environment if keepenv is not set. The noticed behaviour seems to be with or without keepenv. Simply suggesting a different application is not helpful. doas is not the cause of the problem.
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21:14 < sonya> orwell, then may be setenv in doas.conf
21:16 < orwell> You have not understood the problem. With doas it works, but without http_proxy is missing.
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21:18 < sonya> may be, looking at $man doas.conf and it says that setenv is processed after the def env has been created… sorry if i mislead or saying smth wrong..
21:19 < sonya> it's a friday here.. hmm…
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21:49 < orwell> Aha, it's ssh! If I login via ssh the environment set in login.class isn't recognized. Any idea where to dig deeper?
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21:58 < orwell> https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=135527081125704&w=2
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22:09 < magnahelix> orwell: think it's possible to explicitly set env variables in ~/.ssh/config when connecting to a host.
22:09 < orwell> Yeah it's possible, but that's an ugly workaround IMHO
22:10 < orwell> sshd should recognize setenv in login.conf
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22:12 < magnahelix> Yeah, I hear what you're saying. It's never quite right needing to explicitly pass ENV variables that should already be set...
22:13 < magnahelix> Guess my own use cases are simple enough that it has not been an issue yet. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
22:14 < orwell> I must be missing something obvious. It can't be that I'm the first person in 11 years to want to set up a system-wide proxy.
22:14 < orwell> I always think it's more of a mistake on my side than a bug in OpenBSD.
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22:38 < codermattie> orwell: proxy ? you mean jump box?
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22:41 < orwell> codermattie, no i mean http_proxy
22:41 < orwell> context: https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=135527081125704&w=2
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22:45 < codermattie> some systems have a /etc/profile thing for various shells
22:45 < xse> i'm not sure how that would be usually done, even per application i doubt every software using http will understand the environment variable, maybe mitm would be "global" but need to trust certs for https
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22:46 < codermattie> orwell: if you want it foolproof I would use a firewall rule
22:49 < metavoid> xse: There is really only mitm if you try intercept the TLS traffic.
22:52 < xse> yeah can't think of something else
22:53 < metavoid> squid for instance just tunnels your tls traffic without intercepting
22:55 < metavoid> http_proxy / https_proxy has been standard since a long time so its good change that most "generic" applications supports it
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22:56 < codermattie> I think burpsuite can act as a logging proxy
22:56 < metavoid> then your client needs to trust its cert
22:56 < codermattie> but Im not sure, its been a while since I tried to snoop a app
22:56 < metavoid> if you mean intercepting proxy
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