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07:40 < Voyager_MP> Hi I need some help, got a very strange issue on a firewall 7.4
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07:41 < quinq> That sounds strange indeed
07:41 < Voyager_MP> the system claims to have an IP 
07:41 < Voyager_MP> but has not 
07:41 < Voyager_MP> arp -an does not show it 
07:41 < Voyager_MP> ifconfig does not 
07:42 < quinq> First, how do you think that “the system clais to have an IP”?
07:42 < quinq> And what does that mean?
07:43 < quinq> Do you mean having a local network interface configured with this IP?
07:43 < Voyager_MP> running mtr against the ip 
07:43 < quinq> Do you mean it has a route to this IP?
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07:44 < Voyager_MP>    route to: 5.9.38.77 destination: 0.0.0.0        mask: 0.0.0.0     gateway: 192.168.0.1   interface: em0  if address: 192.168.0.133 
07:44 < Voyager_MP> no it's going over the DFG
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07:44 < Voyager_MP> but the hopdistanz ist 1 
07:45 < Voyager_MP> running ssh against that 5.9.38.77, I end up on the same system 
07:45 < quinq> That's the DFG?
07:45 < Voyager_MP> 192.168.0.1
07:45 < quinq> Sorry, mistyped
07:45 < quinq> What's a DFG?
07:46 < Voyager_MP> default gateway 
07:46 < quinq> ok :)
07:46 < Voyager_MP> lets call it DG :D 
07:46 < quinq> So what's the issue?
07:47 < Voyager_MP> it's very strange, the system is a firewall running behind an isp router and connecting to a central iked firewall (5.9.38.77) 
07:47 < quinq> You won't have an entry in an ARP table because it's not on the same local link
07:47 < Voyager_MP> today it stopped doing that 
07:48 < quinq> You should have an entry for your local link gateway though
07:48 < Voyager_MP> I do 
07:49 < Voyager_MP> so you suggest the isp router is sending the package back 
07:49 < Voyager_MP> 08:39:40.797143 192.168.0.133.13675 > 5.9.38.77.22: . [bad tcp cksum eca9! -> 9bd4] ack 2779 win 256 <nop,nop,timestamp 3469633751 2793185259> [tos 0x10] (ttl 64, id 43135, len 52, bad ip cksum 0! -> e5b1) 08:39:40.797661 5.9.38.77.20117 > 192.168.0.133.22: . [tcp sum ok] ack 2779 win 256 <nop,nop,timestamp 3469633751 2793185259> [tos 0x10] (ttl 62, id 57241, len 52) 
07:52 < quinq> No I don't, I still don't understand what's the actual issue :)
07:53 < quinq> “bad tcp cksum” that's not good though
07:57 < Voyager_MP> it's a simple setup "fw onprem: 192.168.0.133" -> ISP Router 192.168.0.1 -> FW RZ: 5.9.38.77 (iked)
07:57 < Voyager_MP> iked is down 
08:00 < Voyager_MP> the ISP router has no route to 5.9.38.77, only it's DG. There is no arp entry as well 
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08:15 < Voyager_MP> if I ran mtr 5.9.38.77 the distanz is 1
08:16 < Voyager_MP> if thats so, I would expect to have an arp entry
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08:17 < Voyager_MP> it looks like a flow bug in iked to me 
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08:19 < Voyager_MP> no, it's the fucking ISP router, running curl against 5.9.38.77, I get the lancom router page. 
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09:16 < pardis> there would be no purpose to putting xz in base
09:16 < pardis> trying to compress base74.tgz with xz on a luna88k system would probably melt it
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09:39 < rnkn> not complaining, it was just a TIL situation
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10:03  * sonya installs gtar with all deps, including xz.. seems to be a better tool than bsd (system) tar.. anyway xz (and 7z-lzma) are quite memory consuming tools..
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10:07 < sonya> seninha, pax is good, but gtar has --exclude and other bells for a lazy cats :)
10:09 < sibiria> you can tune xz' memory use when compressing/decompressing
10:10 < sonya> sibiria, it depends on comp levels, afair.. in the end bz2 and gz wins quite often..
10:11 < sibiria> yes it depends on dictionary size. bz2 and gz only wins on "uses less memory"
10:11 < sibiria> they lose on compression ratio, ingestion per second, and overall performance
10:12 < sibiria> "lower memory consumption" in itself is almost always a counter-productive metric for data compression
10:13 < zwr> zstd would be nice but the official implementation is best described as a compression suite rather than a zstd compressor/decompressor
10:13 < sibiria> zwr: same for gz, xz etc.
10:14 < sibiria> they come with *cat and often *grep as well
10:14 < sonya> may be.. but overall perf (cpu + time + mem) for gz is ok.. bz2 is slow on comp, but better for text.. lzma is for binaries mostly and requirements are higher, imo..  brotly is a thing to dig (for me).. 
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10:15 < sibiria> bz2 compresses better than gz on practically every form of data
10:15 < sibiria> and xz repeats that over bz2
10:15 < sibiria> neither is specifically tuned for e.g. 7-bit ascii or so
10:16 < sibiria> give zstd a try, too. it's a fantastic piece of software
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10:16 < zwr> zstd basically obsoletes gzip
10:17 < sibiria> and bzip2
10:17 < sibiria> xz can compress a tiny, tiny bit better than zstd - but needs some 20x more time for it
10:17 < sonya> ok.. thanks.. will look into
10:17 < IcePic> yes, either you go fast in zstd and it packs better than gzip for the same runtime, or you set it to pack better like bzip2, and it does it lots faster 
10:18 < sibiria> in my opinion zstd wins every time. the insane compression speed outweighs the slightly larger data output compared to xz, and it only happens on xz' higher compression levels anyway
10:19 < sonya> is zstd mutli-threaded?
10:19 < IcePic> yes
10:19 < sibiria> and also has tunable dictionaries (size and dictionary set)
10:20 < sonya> that's great
10:20 < Voyager_MP> how do I find the package ModuleNotFoundError: No module named '_socket'
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12:12 < armin> zstd can be made pretty fast with the --fast= parameter, at the cost of compression ratio, which is extremely useful.
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12:14 < armin> probably the best thing facebook has ever done. :)
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12:17 < armin> but yea if compression time is important to you, definitely check out that --fast= thing, you can still dramatically tweak zstd and make it even more fast (if you can live with slightly worse compression).
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14:00 < ox1eef_> Pulled the latest snapshot. Everything mostly works. It's not until I run a particular piece of Ruby code that I get: msyscall XXXXX XXXXX error.
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14:01 < ox1eef_> I will try debug that later. 
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14:05 < meena> happy birthday to Unicode, turning 32 this year https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-ports&m=170307497916654
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14:30 < IcePic> ox1eef_: someone on the ports@ maillist had binaries where the main binary (ruby in your case) would pull in a new libc (which is fixed and works) but some older part/plugin/dependency would pull in an older libc version, and the OS would get upset when the second of them tries to state "all syscalls will come from here" when the first libc already did register this
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14:31 < armin> meena: the link you posted is for cloud-init, not unicode. :)
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14:32 < armin> meena: (and thx for your work on that!)
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14:45 < meena> armin: it is indeed for cloud-init, but my name is botched by encoding
14:51 < armin> meena: ah, AH! :)
14:52 < meena> to be fair, i haven't seen this particular botching in 12 years
14:53 < armin> meena: *now* I see what you mean. :)
14:53 < meena> where subversion commits from me to the ASF infra would generate these kinds of commit emails
14:54 < meena> (until they fixed it, because I kept complaining)
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14:56 < armin> meena: 2 kind of people with weird characters in the name: the first group will just see what breaks and the 2nd one will just circumvent that by using all ASCII characters. I can't say which party I would be if I had a non-ascii name.
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14:56 < armin> meena: but yea that one is interesting.
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14:58 < meena> c and ć are pronounced differently in my language. not something that Anglos seem too concerned, given that each letter of their alphabet has at least 6 different pronunciations
14:59 < meena> anyway! cloud-init. anyone got feedback on my port?
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15:26 < armin> meena: I don't understand why it requires to know a GH username.
15:29 < armin> But I should probably just look into cloud-init.
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15:32 < meena> armin: why the port requires it?
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15:32 < meena> i use my fork, instead the canonical upstream, because two pull requests are still outstanding, because everyone is on vacation
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15:58 < Zyxer> Hi
15:58 < Zyxer> There was security flaw in openSSH if I am not mistaken. How can I update it? 
15:59 < sibiria> syspatch
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16:00 < Zyxer> How can I see OpenSSH version?
16:01 < sibiria> ssh -V
16:01 < sibiria> if syspatch gives you nothing, there's no patch out for your release
16:01 < Zyxer> I am on 7.4
16:02 < Zyxer> syspatch gave some. But ssh is still on version 9.5, isn't that the version with the issue?
16:02 < Zyxer> Do I need to reboot to apply new ssh version? 
16:02 < sibiria> no, you can just restart sshd
16:03 < sibiria> open connections will remain on what they started before the patch
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16:04 < Zyxer> ssh -V still gives 9.5
16:05 < sibiria> because you're running 9.5 - with patches
16:05 < Zyxer> Maybe I need to go current to get latest ssh patch?
16:05 < sibiria> no
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16:05 < sibiria> run syspatch and relax, bro
16:05 < sibiria> rcctl restart sshd
16:05 < Zyxer> I did run syspatch, and then restarted sshd
16:05 < sibiria> then you're fine
16:06 < Zyxer> Even tho' it is on 9.5?
16:06 < sibiria> base system doesn't update entire openssh until next release, but patches are "backported"
16:07 < sibiria> in openbsd, the base system isn't made up of packages
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16:07 < Zyxer> Oh, ok. So the security patch in OpenBSD should be on ssh version 9.5 then ?
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16:07 < sibiria> it's on the same ssh version that 7.4 ships with
16:08 < sibiria> openbsd.org/errata74.html
16:08 < rak> Where is hw.battery.chargemode documented? I've checked sysctl(2) and acpithinkpad(4), but nothing. It was introduced in 7.4
16:10 < Zyxer> sibiria: Thanks for the info. Calm mode reactivated
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16:24 < xse> rak: https://man.openbsd.org/sysctl.2#HW_BATTERY~2
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16:25 < rak> xse: Oh, thanks! I should have thought of checking the -current man page to see if it had been since documented.
16:27 < metavoid> hmm I don't even have that updated man page, wonder if sysupgrade didn't fetch new manpages for me..
16:29 < metavoid> hmm, man 2 isn't even in man74.tgz
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16:32 < xse> mh, don't have that version of the manpage on 7.4
16:32 < metavoid> not in 7.3 as well
16:33 < metavoid> and its only documented in current manpage
16:33 < xse> https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-cvs&m=169730997126948 is like 2 days before 7.4 release announce or something, that might be normal then
16:34 < metavoid> hmm ok, so it was added too late
16:36 < metavoid> are syscall manpages perhaps delivered via base fileset and not man..
16:37 < thrig> pkglocate sysctl.2
16:38 < xse> src/lib/libc/sys/sysctl.2
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16:48 < metavoid> aah, sysctl(2) is provided by comp74.tgz
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17:29 < ox1eef_> IcePic: Thanks. Recompiling the Ruby C extensions that were compiled before upgrading to a new snapshot might help I guess. 
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17:35 < IcePic> ox1eef_: well, that is something one should do at times when libc changes
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22:11 < steeznson> hello! I was wondering how I would configure ports to use a non-standard install location? I want to have it in my homedir like ~/ports instead of inside /usr because that partition is too small. I guess I need to configure it in my /etc/mk.conf?
22:12 < thrig> mkdir /home/whoops; ... ln -s /home/woops /usr/local
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22:16 < steeznson> Sorry if I missed any answers - I had a wifi issue there and had to reconnect.
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22:16 < phy1729> You can set PORTSDIR in /etc/mk.conf
22:17 < steeznson> phy1729: ty
22:17 < phy1729> man bsd.port.mk
22:17 < uwharrie> PORTSDIR is for the source
22:17 < uwharrie> LOCALBASE is the install destination
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22:18 < steeznson> cool I'll read the man page and get those configured
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