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01:27 < ke5c2fin> How can I get ECMP working with eBGP routes?
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03:03 < TommyC> Is the openbsd.org site a bit slow to load today for anybody else?
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03:05 < mybalzitch> near instant for me, but I'm one ISP and an exchange from the server
03:06 < TommyC> mybalzitch: what about the manual page subdomain (man.openbsd.org)?
03:06 < mybalzitch> that is definitely slow
03:06 < mybalzitch> and hosted elsewhere
03:06 < mybalzitch> oh won't even load for me
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03:07 < avemestr> https://man.egoslike.us/ is a temporary substitute for man.openbsd.org.
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03:08 < TommyC> Thanks, had to ask because I'm in SK and for some reason the government is charging abursdly high fees to corporations outside of the SK and had hoped openbsd didn't get caught in that scuffle.
03:08 < avemestr> Obviously, the same content is available in the man pages on your system. man.openbsd.org will be available again as soon as possible.
03:11 < TommyC> Unfortunately I don't have access to an openbsd machine at the moment.
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03:58 < experemental> thats not a problem
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05:25 < remiliascarlet> ox1eef_: The point of Linux is that you take individual pieces together to form a usable operating system. The point of Linux distributions is that some random guy somewhere on this planet decides for you what those pieces are, because too many people are too lazy to do it themselves. This is different from the BSD's where the point is that a dedicated team builds an OS (almost) entirely from top
05:26 < remiliascarlet> to bottom.
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06:12 < TheBlueWizard> I notice the link "man pages" seems to be dead on OpenBSD main page
06:13 < phy1729> University is down for maintenance longer than expected
06:13 < TheBlueWizard> Ah I see
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06:15 < zyxer> RIP 
06:15 < zyxer> Happy new year!
06:15 < zyxer> :D
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09:13 < avemestr> zyxer: Thank you, you too.
09:14 < zyxer> :D
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13:17 < ox1eef_> remiliascarlet: That's a nonsensical argument. The percentage of people who can piece together the Linux kernel, and the rest of the ecosystem is small. Distros make it accessible to the average joe and jane. Anyway, I don't like Linux, fragmentation being one reason, and that's why I use BSD.
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13:22 < dqk> it makes so much sense you just wrote the same thing down
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13:24 < ox1eef_> I don't think the average joe and jane is lazy. I think they lack the expertise, but you can interpet it however you want.
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13:25 < remiliascarlet> ox1eef_: Getting a kernel together isn't even that hard if you know what specific hardware you have. What I meant is things like what bootloader, init system, display manager (that login screen), display server, window manager, desktop environment (if applicable), pre-installed programs, and so on are available. This is different from the BSD's, where you get a much more unified experience.
13:27 < remiliascarlet> But out of the Linux distro's, the one distro I like is CRUX, simply because it's minimal, and it's basically like having your own LFS distro without having to go through the LFS handbook.
13:28 < remiliascarlet> I am aware that to a lot of people this can be frustrating, because it comes with almost nothing out of the box.
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14:04 < ox1eef_> Never tried it, but reading the crux handbook, it looks inspired by BSD and seems better than most distros out there nowadays.
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14:10 < dqk> not that surprising to see another crux user on this channel
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14:23 < remiliascarlet> ox1eef_: I had the exact same impression when I started using CRUX after having used OpenBSD for a while.
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23:02 < codermattie> Im having a hard time finding the java runtime
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23:04 < brynet> codermattie: there hasn't been a seperate runtime package in years, install the JDK w/ pkg_add jdk
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23:06 < codermattie> putting it into PATH would be a big step towards finding it :)
23:07 < brynet> setting the path to the runtime has always been manual on Unix.
23:08 < brynet> as you also need to configure e.g: JAVA_HOME
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