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00:41 < cjs> solene: What a time to be in the OpenBSD world! I had to revert from -current to -stable because of the WIP syscall changes (breaking ports), but being able to tell people at 7.5-release that KDE Plasma is available for easy installation will be fantastic.
00:42 < ox1eef_> I've been lucky then. I didn't come across any broken ports so far. 
00:42 < phy1729> Also you got lucky. Downgrading isn't supported
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00:47 < cjs> phy1729: *fresh installation, sorry
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01:06 < sibiria> solene: is that from your setup?
01:06 < sibiria> the sway-wayland screenshot
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01:06 < sibiria> ah yes it is, your username visible
01:07 < sibiria> how is it performing?
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01:43 < mqlnv> solene: Is it possible to run native wayland Firefox in Sway?
01:44 < Ellenor> Well, is it?
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03:39 < Intrepid> Happy new year all
03:41 < Intrepid> I'm looking to make an encrypted USB stick in OpenBSD that is accessible through a Windows or Mac based computer.. Is there any option?
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03:51 < rahl> dayid: cheers. That makes sense. I guess you're talking specifically about if I edit the packaged rc.d script. Do you have any automation in place, e.g. to run something right after pkg_add -u/sysupdate?
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04:21 < SNAX_74> How do you wake OpenBSD up when it goes to sleep ?
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04:22 < thrig> bring out yer dead!
04:28 < SNAX_74> thrig, Do you know ?
04:33 < visl> i usually gently shake it. if that doesn't work i squirt it with some cold water
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04:33 < visl> could also just press a key on the keyboard.
04:34 < SNAX_74> visl, I am on a thinkpad I noticed the power button blinks and I can't wake it up
04:35 < bradd> my windows box blinks on sleep.. to wake it, i tap the power button.. don't know if that would work for u??
04:35 < SNAX_74> I have to hold down the power button and it hard reboots with filesystem errors that runs fsck to correct these errors
04:36 < bradd> one small tap won't wake it?
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04:37 < SNAX_74> bradd, Nope
04:37 < bradd> :( thats all i got then
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04:39 < visl> i googled for you, out of curiosity. unplug it from everything and try the tap. there's also a long thread of people complaining about this on X1 6th gen that i didn't read
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04:41 < visl> but yea, a search makes me think it's a thinkpad issue, and also has a whole bunch of things you can try. (another from the freebsd forums is plug it into the docking station and press the docking station's power button)
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04:48 < SNAX_74> visl, probably still experimental
04:52 < visl> well it's a search full of non-openbsd users complaining about the same won't wake from sleep problem
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04:57 < myappie> whats everyones favorite openbsd song lyrics?
05:00 < mason> myappie: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=DjVqn0CzOfI
05:02 < mason> or, a better link: https://www.openbsd.org/lyrics.html#30
05:03 < mason> myappie: For context, I first heard it as the intro to the old BSD Talk podcast.
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05:09 < mischief> myappie: skate or die, but replace skate with openbsd
05:09 < myappie> hehe
05:09 < myappie> cheers mason, mischief 
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05:14 < mischief> this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-03q9VE0sOk
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05:39 < myappie> mason: i'm making this ensemble of AI musicians. apart from them being trained on my own compositions, i'd love for them to spread the word about openbsd
05:39 < myappie> hang on a sec
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05:42 < myappie> i post the result on misc@ later
05:42 < myappie> * i'll
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08:03 < fettuccine> Anyone here using chicken scheme? I get compilation errors while building various eggs. Currently trying to build the parley egg on openbsd 7.4 and it depends on stty egg which fails to build.
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08:04 < fettuccine> error: /home/me/.cache/chicken-install/stty/stty.c:2818:34: error: use of undeclared identifier 'B460800'
08:04 < fettuccine> av2[1]=C_unsigned_long_to_num(&a,B460800);
08:08 < mischief> what if you just commented that out
08:09 < IcePic> that is a constant for serial speed
08:10 < fettuccine> i've got like a dozen errors about other assignments like this one. would use a pastebin if that
08:10 < fettuccine> if that would help
08:10 < IcePic> linux has headers that defines those, https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/latest/source/include/uapi/asm-generic/termbits.h#L112
08:11 < IcePic> I think lots of that code needs to be adapted for however obsd sets serial speeds
08:11 < fettuccine> damn
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08:11 < fettuccine> ill try racket then lol. thx for the insight
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08:14 < IcePic> fettuccine: perhaps you could see if you can build chicken-scheme without serial support?
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08:14 < fettuccine> IcePic: the cli tool would still work, right?
08:15 < IcePic> oh, it's in ports already
08:15 < fettuccine> yeah
08:15 < fettuccine> i got it from pkg_add
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08:15 < IcePic> I thought you got the error building chicken yourself. my bad
08:15 < fettuccine> no problem
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08:20 < IcePic> fettuccine: I have an idea
08:20 < IcePic> bsd will define serial speeds up to 230400 using those B names
08:21 < fettuccine> alr
08:21 < IcePic> so change https://github.com/fadein/chicken-stty/blob/master/stty.scm to only go up to that speed and just remove the rest
08:21 < fettuccine> alr i'll give it a look thx
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08:23 < IcePic> obsd list is visible at https://cvsweb.egoslike.us/src/sys/sys/termios.h?rev=1.14&content-type=text/x-cvsweb-markup
08:23 < fettuccine> nice
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08:35 < solene> sibiria: with sway, I had issues with the keyboard layout malfunctioning a few times, like stuck ctrl or weird keymap loaded out of nowhere, otherwise it's work correctly
08:35 < solene> mqlnv: Firefox can't run natively in wayland at the moment
08:36 < solene> cjs: indeed! I already know a few people who will return to OpenBSD once Plasma is there ^_^
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09:05 < fettuccine> IcePic: yay it works! thx a lot. I think imma try sending the dev a patch abt it but I'll read up on stty first to know what im doing. just a headsup i got a blackout soon so might not receive messages (new to irc ik i need a bouncer or somth)
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09:09 < fettuccine> solene: are you the owner of dataswamp.org? i read a couple of your articles you're rlly cool
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10:19 < solene> fettuccine: I'm not the owner, but I publish my website there
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10:21 < fettuccine> solene: o coolio
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10:28 < solene> thanks fettuccine
10:30 < fettuccine> np
10:32 < tercaL> https://www.tumfatig.net/2024/running-openbsd-on-omnios-using-bhyve/?utm_source=bsdweekly
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15:04 < myappie> mischief, mason: aware of any more openbsd soundbites?
15:04 < myappie> i got two poems so far, one male and one female
15:05 < myappie> i think it's ok. just feels like it's lacking an intro of sorts
15:07 < myappie> lol you're gonna love this :)
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17:08 < xi> Hi, when I compile a common lisp program with asdf:make the resulting binary can't run:
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17:08 < xi> failed to allocate 1048576 bytes at 0x20000000
17:08 < xi> (hint: Try "ulimit -a"; maybe you should increase memory limits.)
17:08 < avemestr> xi: "man login.conf"
17:09 < avemestr> xi: A common way: Add the user in question to the staff group and increase the limits for the staff group in /etc/login.conf.
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17:10 < xi> I'm the only user on this laptop so it should be fine to modify the defaults
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17:11 < xi> but datasize-max is set to 1024M and this is just over 1M
17:12 < xi> I don't understand
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17:15 < xi> I'm in the staff group now and datasize-max was already set to infinity and it does the same thing (yes I relogged in)
17:16 < quinq> You also need to increase the effective size limit
17:16 < quinq> with ulimit
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17:17 < quinq> Ask your shell about it
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17:22 < xi> seems plenty data(kbytes)         134217728 stack(kbytes)        4096 lockedmem(kbytes)    87381 memory(kbytes)       16087584
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17:25 < xi> file(blocks)         unlimited
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18:15 < falsifian> xi: re "this is just over 1M": 1048576 is the size of the allocation that failed, on top of whatever was already in use. Straw that broke the camel's back.
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18:55 < myappie> mason, mischief: thanks again for the inspiration
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18:55 < myappie> the poems suck and the voices are AI, I just had to see how it'd turn out
18:56  * myappie uploads openbsd tv commercial to tiktok
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20:46 < SNAX_74> Does anyone know why gcc is renamed egcc in openbsd ?
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20:46 < sibiria> because we switched to clang/llvm
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20:46 < SNAX_74> sibiria, I understand
20:47 < thrig> external, as opposed to when there was always gcc in base
20:47 < sibiria> "gcc" and "g++" remains in use by so many Makefiles etc. that it was best to just let it stay and point to the actual compiler suite
20:48 < SNAX_74> thrig, That makes sense
20:48 < sibiria> and it's not an openbsd thing, really. it looks the same in many other places
20:48 < SNAX_74> not in FreeBSD
20:49 < phy1729> some arches are still gcc only
20:50 < SNAX_74> and of course GNU/Linux which will always use GCC no matter what
20:50 < SNAX_74> its the foundation
20:50 < thrig> no? alpine linux is more or less gnu free, if you want
20:50 < myappie> Hey guys, what y'all think
20:50 < phy1729> That's irrelevant to OpenBSD
20:50 < myappie> https://www.tiktok.com/@openbsd_fan_club/video/7319975721156250912
20:51 < uwharrie> you can build linux without gcc
20:51 < SNAX_74> thrig, I need to do some research on alpine linux
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20:52 < SNAX_74> thrig, So many distros of linux I never heard of that one before today
20:54 < myappie> The two coolest beats are supposed to come at the end. Hope y'all liked the anti-Linux lyrics though :)
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21:03 < ludovicus> lol
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21:34 < runelind> anyone using OpenBSD with 6rd - I'm about to :( 
21:36 < runelind> was reading https://gist.github.com/afresh1/791343380b4410687d51fdd94f20bd42 - I'm going to be using Quantum Fiber which I don't believe uses PPPoE anymore.
21:38 < runelind> should be using IPoE 
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