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08:23 < natmeo> MonsoonSecrecy: you arent connecting via a dock or a port replicator are you
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11:20 < orwell> Moin! I'm trying to filter DDOS attacks to authoritative nameservers from spoofed IP's. With iptables, you can filter for strings in the packets payload. Is anything equivalent possible with OpenBSD? I'm only aware of relayd's capability to filter http traffic.
11:22 < orwell> How do you handle such kind of attacks with OpenBSD?
11:25 < IcePic> I think one can divert packets in pf to some process that would do the match
11:26 < IcePic> https://man.openbsd.org/divert.4#:~:text=Divert%20sockets%20are%20part%20of,only%20the%20superuser%20can%20do.
11:26 < sonya> table <spammers> persist   - from FAQ
11:26 < sonya> and smth to fill <spammers>
11:26 < IcePic> don't think anyone did an example for handling DDoS with it though
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11:27 < orwell> IcePic, thanks! That's really interesting.
11:27 < orwell> sonya, this won't work for spoofed IP's
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11:28 < IcePic> I'm sure they come in all flavours, but the last DDoS I got at work was some 40 gigabit of traffic. Our 10GE uplinks made it so that only 10 got in, then routers and fws lowered it to 4, and the 4 we got would consume resources so that the published services weren't visible on the outside, but the servers did recover as soon as the traffic stopped
11:29 < IcePic> at no point were we thinking of having each packet go via some program to see if it was nice or not. ;)
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11:29 < orwell> Then you were lucky your uplink ISP didn't blackhole you ;)
11:30 < IcePic> might be slightly easier for tcp services, one can enable synflood protections and so on, which might help while the DDoS runs, but should not be on at all times
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11:32 < orwell> Yeah, there are definitively different sort of attacks. I'm trying to protect against dictionary attacks on nameservers. There's a bunch of traffic like word.domain.com, then anotherword.domain.com. This isn't a lot of traffic but brings down the authoritative nameserver responsible for this domain.
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11:39 < IcePic> orwell: I guess it might be super hard to differentiate some resolver just asking lots of questions and some spammer box bogging you down
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11:43 < orwell> These attackers often use the same attack pattern. There are some ways to filter a big part of the attack. I guess these kind of attackers aren't very advanced.
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13:27 < orwell> I'm trying to write an application like the example in divert(4). My python example works, but my golang example doesn't recognizes any packets. Do you have any idea why?
13:27 < orwell> https://paste.dismail.de/?33443442409766f5#AKHfkVMLSfZGBkqc54Xw6Vg3xBTN9dCX9s7k1V97gfJj
13:28 < orwell> Could this be anyhow related to the changes how syscalls can be made?
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13:29 < IcePic> orwell: not of golang programs work in general on your system
13:29 < IcePic> not if ..
13:30 < orwell> a simple hello world example works
13:30 < sibiria> it better well do, taking up 41 mb just to print text
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13:36 < IcePic> orwell: examples I've seen tend to make the buf to write to have a fixed size, perhaps the underlying call needs/wants to know what size it can read
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13:39 < orwell> https://pkg.go.dev/syscall#Recvfrom Recvfrom() expects []byte without fixed size.
13:39 < IcePic> ok
13:40 < orwell> but you're right. That's difference between these two examples.
13:40 < IcePic> buf := make([]byte, 1024)
13:40 < IcePic>     for {
13:40 < IcePic>         // Read the data sent by the client
13:40 < IcePic>         n, from, err := syscall.Recvfrom(fd, buf, 0)
13:40 < IcePic> just that all examples I find look like that
13:40 < IcePic> or are functions that receive a buf[] but where some other part presumably knows the size
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13:41 < orwell> ha! You're right! That's it!
13:41 < orwell> Now it works like a charme.
13:42 < IcePic> now, build me a filter worthy of Mordor
13:42 < orwell> I totally mistook how the slices are defined in go.
13:43 < orwell> I'll try. I'm very curios how this will perform.
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13:44 < IcePic> yeah, it would be interesting if you could test something like iperf3 shooting udp first to a port that is not divert-filtered and measure the throughtput, then change iperf3 to a port matching the divert-traffic and measuring again
13:44 < IcePic> without doing matching in the golang filter, that is. 
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13:50 < orwell> A short latency test shows no delay. I can also test the throughput in a moment. Give me a few minutes.
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14:13 < orwell> hm, as soon I put a lot of traffic on it, the program fails with "invalid argument" while trying to make the sendto syscall. I have to debug this before I can make some performance tests.
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17:52 < PyR3X> for port Makfile how can I say that files extracted from distfiles need to be put in /var/lib/myprog? make fake won't work if I say like cp -R ${WRKDIST}/mydir /var/lib/mydir
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18:04 < thodg> PyR3X, you should use install and $DESTDIR or $prefix
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18:23 < PyR3X> like if I don't set PREFIX (default to /usr/local) and do ${INSTALL_DATA_DIR} ${PREFIX}/share/myprog and then cp -R ${WRKDIST}/mydir ${PREFIX}/share/myprog everything works
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18:24 < PyR3X> but if I set PREFIX to / and do the same but ${PREFIX}/usr/share/myprog it doesn't work in make fake
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18:32 < uwharrie> should it be WRKINST instead of PREFIX?
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18:34 < uwharrie> https://man.openbsd.org/bsd.port.mk#THE_FAKE_FRAMEWORK
18:37  * thrig rolls to disbelieve the fake framework
18:38 < PyR3X> I've read it about 100 times I'm missing something
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18:43 < PyR3X> when PREFIX is /usr/local it's fine but if PREFIX is / (so I can use /usr/share vs /usr/local/share) 'make fake' doesn't update the PLIST
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18:49 < sibiria> for /usr/share prefix should be /usr, not /
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19:00 < PyR3X> I think I need to do something with SUBST... I have a zip file with a bunch of files. Some need to go to /etc, /var/lib/, and /usr/share
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20:25 < thodg> PyR3X, if you got make fake to actually put the files, then you need to manually update the PLIST to add @example lines for your files/folders
20:29 < thodg> PKG_CREATE(1) @extra
20:29 < thodg> @sample
20:33 < vortexx> as an aside... /var/lib isn't usually used on OpenBSD, lib stuff goes to /usr/local/lib
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20:33 < vortexx> (but maybe the port can't be tweaked to use that dir)
20:33 < thrig> wacky Java stuff
20:33 < vortexx> yeah that would do it
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20:45 < PyR3X> thodg: vortexx: thanks -- yeah I will update paths to OpenBSDify everything assuming nothing breaks with the software but didn't see the @example/@extra stuff
20:46 < PyR3X> I was just trying to use the default layout first to make sure things worked correctly
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21:29 < vortexx> PyR3X: all good!
21:33 < PyR3X> what's the significance of the @ sign on like @mkdir @cp @ln etc?
21:35 < thrig> in a Makefile? less noise
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22:24 < MonsoonSecrecy> natmeo: no it's the laptop display
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