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00:08 < ssm_> Bradipo: sorry should have specified, I get the vala warnings when I make a call
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01:23 < alepzi> i just read "Note: I'm using the OpenBSD convention to identify the host's main interface by putting it into the 'egress' group using ifconfig, e.g.:" is that accurate?
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01:28 < pardis> no idea if the author is doing that or not, really
01:29 < alepzi> no i mean is that openbsd convention? 
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01:29 < mischief> yes, it
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01:29 < mischief> is usually the interface associated with the default route
01:30 < alepzi> ah
01:30 < alepzi> are there any other naming conventions for network interfaces? like maybe for the lan or?
01:31 < mischief> no, but it's not something that you'd run into that often anyway
01:31 < alepzi> what isn't?
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03:50 < kn> 'egress' is an automatically created and populated interface group that, by definition, contains all interfaces holding a default route.  regardless of openbsd, i'd say "ingress" and "egress" are pretty conventional terms on its own
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03:56 < kn> ifconfig(8) documents more groups, e.g. 'wlan', otherwise there's exactly one rule/convention: 'name unit', e.g. "em2", "iwx0"
03:58 < kn> ssm_: thanks for the log, i made a note to look into dino/audio 
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04:44 < mischief> ah, yes, i did recall that if you have multiple nics of one driver, like rge(4), ifconfig rge will show all of them. but they are not an interface group, it's just a feature of ifconfig.
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06:52 < tercaL> Good morning
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07:04 < kn> mischief: yes, only for clonable drivers, e.g. lo(4) or vether(4) and not rge(4).  then again, 'pfctl -s Interfaces' does list "iwx" for me and 'on iwx' rules load same as 'on iwx0', but do not work for me
07:08 < kn> seems like ifconfig and pf don't quite agree on interface groups for non-clonable interfaces?
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09:24 < Filystyn> i need to vent this out. Not very openbsd problem but it does not fit anywhere. I wanted to log stuff from discord server on other irc community channel. What could go wrong I am not going to implement protocol I will stick to libs. Found some C lib for discord. And was off to go. What a hell it turned out it was. Not the lib it self it was poorly documented but usable. The real hell was discord 
09:24 < Filystyn> *security*. tokens shitty documentation and catastrophic advices over internet. I spent so much time on such a simple shit I was yesterday 2 am completly furious when it was finally working. But the biggest star of the show was since you must add your bot in discord panel you must also give it a link with permissions what bot can do. And I was seeing people speak but I don't see the message. I passed 
09:24 < Filystyn> all permissions I made the bot admin and I still don't see the messages. So like - must be bug in my code. But discord tells me - you have no auth so seems problem on their side. BELIVE IT - there is special option to enable context - to see the fucking message people send. And it is not in the box where you pick administrator or other permissions. This is so purely sick I have no words. They even call 
09:25 < Filystyn> their servers guilds, like if it was some f... game
09:26 < Filystyn> The famous sierra adventure game type
09:26 < Filystyn> that would be
09:31  * nologin passes Filystyn a cup of single-malt tea and remembers that there was a times of forums (with forms accepting a POST command) and rss feeds per thread/forum_part/whole_forum..
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09:41 < mesaoptimizer> Filystyn: Originally discord was intended to be for game communities only, that's where the "guild" nomenclature comes in
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12:05 < mqlnv> Where should I send email if I want to ask a port maintainer to compile with an additional flag? Ports mailing list, maintainer directly, or misc mailing list?
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12:12 < sibiria> if it were me i'd reach out to the maintainer first of all
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12:43 < mqlnv> sibiria: Directly? I hope they don't mind...
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12:50 < sibiria> seems a bit snobbish and lofty to get upset about people reaching out to them by e-mail?
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16:19 < jak3b> join #voidlinux
16:20 < avemestr> Why?
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16:20 < thrig> to a void
16:20 < jak3b> sorry!, typo 
16:21 < phy1729> It's the premiere OS for the spouses of OpenBSD users.
16:21 < jak3b> lol
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16:25 < jak3b> Anybody here using an Athlon X4 cpu?
16:28 < sibiria> i did in the past. openbsd ran fine on it
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16:28 < kn> mqlnv: just mail ports@ and Cc maintainers if any
16:28 < GnarledHorn> phy1729: lol
16:29 < jak3b> yea it always ran great for me to until the amd microcode was introduced
16:29 < jak3b> now the system locks up after 5 to 20 minutes
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16:30 < jak3b> cant escape to console or use the keyboard at all
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16:40 < rynn> I really enjoyed Void Linux when I used it, but I always had issues getting UEFI to play nicely with it for some reason.
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18:16 < kopsicv> Can i (safely make changes to a partition table that holds partitions that are mounted and in use?
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18:16 < kopsicv> My laptop drive wasn't fully utilized by the auto-partitioning on installation.
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18:17 < kopsicv> I don't want to fight with resizing my home partition, but i'd like to at least create a new partition to get access to it.
18:18 < kn> kopsicv: yes
18:21 < kopsicv> so, with `sd0` being the drive and `sd1` being the encrypted virtual drive, i should be able to do something like $(echo -n 'a i\n\n\next2fs\nw\nq\n' | disklabel -E sd1`
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18:22 < thrig> printf is more portable than whatever echo you might be using
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18:25 < kopsicv_> Ah, i hopefully didn't miss a response to my question. I lost connection
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19:37 < rIMpossible> my home fs has an unexpected inconsistency due to 2 times core dump
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19:38 < rIMpossible> booting single user fsck -p brings nothing on /home
19:38 < rIMpossible> 70604831 DUP I=17652041
19:38 < rIMpossible> /dev/rsd0l: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck_ffs MANUALLY
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19:39 < rIMpossible> I did so. But it comes again
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19:39 < rIMpossible> I've no deep knowledge on how to recover this :(
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19:39 < avemestr> Run without -p?
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19:40 < rIMpossible> avemestr: ... in progress
19:41 < avemestr> Well, that's progress!
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19:42 < rIMpossible> avemestr: Sorry, was kinda panicking after a hard day.
19:42 < rIMpossible> avemestr: Thank you 
19:44 < avemestr> It'll most likely ask you some questions at some point on how to proceed when it encounters error, unfortunately. So not sure it can salvage all files, but unless you have something important opened at the time of crash, it should be safe to reply with "y" to the questions.
19:45 < avemestr> If it's a client machine, it's often the gazillion temporary files that internet browsers like to create that is unsalvagable.
19:49 < rIMpossible> avemestr: A few files got lost, but that's not a problem, at all
19:49 < rIMpossible> avemestr: yes, temp files
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19:58 < Bradipo> rIMpossible: Looking through /home/lost+found ?
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20:11 < rIMpossible> Bradipo: there was only one recent file from the repair, the others have been cache files from firefox
20:11 < rIMpossible> So everything fine
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21:32 < Bradipo> Is there a way in the SSH shell to list current forwards (e.g. local, remote, dynamic?
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21:32 < Bradipo> And ~# doesn't do it.
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21:58 < kn> Bradipo: ~# does list them, but only they're in use.  run nc(1) over your -L/-R ports to see
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21:59 < harpia> Disk encryption question. Can you add a passfile to an encrypted volume after the installation? Can it be done online? (with the disk mounted and in use)
22:01 < Bradipo> I suppose fstat would be the best option at this point.
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22:02 < Bradipo> harpia: Depends on how good you are at juggling filesystems.
22:04 < kn> harpia: bioctl(8) [-k keydisk] or [-p passfile]?  the decision of keydisk vs. passphrase at volume creation time is permanent, so you can't switch between them offline or online.
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22:06 < kn> [-p passfile] is a regular passphrase, think 'cat passfile | bioctl -s ...'.  neither keydisks nor passphrases can be added, there is only ever one.  only passphrases can be changed, offline or online.
22:08 < harpia> Hmm, I'll have to reinstall then. I wanted to use a keydisk, but only used it on Linux before (with cryptsetup).
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22:11 < kn> you can dump/backup the volume's contents, recreate it with a keydisk and restore its data if you know what you're doing, otherwise reinstall, yes.
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22:13 < kn> installer has initial keydisk support, but it expects a keydisk to be present, i.e. won't set one up for you.  iirc, this landed after 7.4 release
22:14 < harpia> where is this documented? the keydisk creation.
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22:18 < kn> good question...
22:20 < kn> https://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq14.html#softraidFDE is the best we have, bioctl(8) doesn't tell you what a keydisk should look like, it's all just vaguely assumed
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22:23 < harpia> Ah, I must have missed that part of the page. Thanks. I'll give it a try.
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