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06:03 < tercaL> good morning
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07:06 < msamsing> Hello. I am trying to install OpenBSD from USB but it is extremely slow and during installation of file sets it even stalls. I have no problems using the same USB stick and port with FreeBSD. Any idea why and what I can do?
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08:13 < rnkn> what's the correct way to set environment variables for rc.d scripts?
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08:16 < CosmicDJ> rnkn: rc.conf.local? http://man.openbsd.org/rc.conf.local.8
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08:31 < rnkn> CosmicDJ: hmm, I actually think login.conf setenv is more the ticket
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09:31 < rnkn> oh man, login.conf can't escape literal colons, that sucks
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09:49 < rnkn> should there be anything wrong with specifying env vars in a login.conf.d like this? https://0x0.st/HGj_.txt
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09:55 < rnkn> okay, to answer my own question, yes there's something wrong, they need to be comma separated
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10:06 < rnkn> should rc daemons be kept in the foreground?
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10:07 < IcePic> rnkn: in bsd they traditionally don't
10:07 < rnkn> IcePic: cool ty!
10:07 < IcePic> as opposed to say systemd which grabs their stdout 
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11:11 < mesaoptimizer_> I'm trying to build the tarsnap port and I'm getting the following error: https://paste.dismail.de/?0c3462c630cc7589#AQQWDHNJCp2CbR6Cm7KkEdiMjfMjUmt39m43Yd1H3BJP (the paste also has relevant details for my attempt to get building ports working)
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11:15 < mesaoptimizer_> oh yeah, I've also done a `chown -R mesa /usr/ports` before doing the `make` and `make install`. That isn't the issue here
11:15 < op2> don't chown by yourself, there's make fix-permissions that will do the right thing for you
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11:18 < op2> also, I'd go with `make package' before trying to install/update.  don't know why it complains that the package is unsigned 
11:19 < op2> wild guess: maybe you're lacking keepenv in your permit nopass mesa ?
11:20 < Mellowlink> sisters! when it's our turn? https://www.phoronix.com/news/FreeBSD-Considers-Rust-Base
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11:23 < mesaoptimizer_> op2: you are correct, I needed keepenv in the "permit nopass mesa" line
11:24 < mesaoptimizer_> also I had no idea that `make fix-permissions` existed, mainly because the FAQ page (https://www.openbsd.org/faq/ports/ports.html) had no mention of this
11:25 < oldlaptop> "More information about the ports system may be found in...ports(2)...bsd.port.mk(5)"
11:25 < oldlaptop> Or rather ports(7).
11:26 < oldlaptop> ("Ports as a system call" is a deeply unsettling concept)
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11:27 < oldlaptop> Also, "Details on how to configure privilege separation are in the bsd.port.mk(5) man page."
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11:27 < mesaoptimizer_> I see, it sure seems like I must slowly make my way through the man pages. Maybe after I've done a first pass of _Absolute OpenBSD_.
11:27 < oldlaptop> one generally does well to follow references when reading the FAQs
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11:28 < mesaoptimizer_> oldlaptop: oh. I'm a dummy, I did read that exact PORTS_PRIVSEP section but not carefully enough, which is why I got into the habit of manually setting perms (this is my second ports setup)
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13:12 < Voyager_MP> If I configure a 7.4 vm biocrypt on proxmox, with a serial console, I always get asked for the boot password in vnc, not in com0. Why is that ? 
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13:13 < sibiria> maybe the host (proxmox) isn't providing a serial port that the bootloader can detect
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13:14 < uwharrie> have you config'd the kernel to default to a serial console?
13:15 < Voyager_MP> in boot.conf ?
13:16 < uwharrie> yes
13:16 < Voyager_MP>  /etc/boot.conf                                                               <
13:16 < Voyager_MP> stty com0 115200
13:16 < Voyager_MP> set tty com0
13:16 < sibiria> the bootloader doesn't know of /etc if you're using FDE
13:17 < Voyager_MP> I have solve this on an other vm, years ago, but I can't remember how 
13:18 < sibiria> i think your host (proxmox) or the config of the VM (not openbsd) isn't providing a serial port
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13:19 < Voyager_MP> the serial can be used after the password is insert, but only then 
13:20 < sibiria> at that point / and /etc and so on exists, and the kernel is running. it's a bit different from the capabilities of the bootloader
13:21 < sibiria> do you get anything at all over serial when you start the vm?
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13:21 < sibiria> the bootloader's output
13:21 < Voyager_MP> yes, the complete boot 
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13:21 < Voyager_MP> but not the bootloader 
13:21 < sibiria> when i say start the vm i mean "cold" booting it. not after you've provided it with the password[3~
13:22 < sibiria> the -bootloader's- output. not the kernel's
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15:44 < harpia> What's the appropriate place to set the umask for a daemon? (for the administrator)
15:44 < harpia> login.conf? rc.d script?
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15:46 < rIMpossible> harpia: IMHO login.conf(5). rc.d scripts only, if you know, what you are doing...
15:47 < AmyMalik> <joke>in the registry</joke>
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17:44 < pardis> login.conf will only work if there is a daemon_user
17:44 < pardis> so it depends
17:45 < pardis> if you have a daemon that starts as root and then drops privileges, the rc.d script is your only option (unless you want to set the umask for all root logins and daemons)
17:46 < pardis> on the other hand, if you do have a daemon_user and you're setting the umask for a packaged daemon, then setting it in login.conf will avoid the need to maintain your own custom version of the packaged rc.d script
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17:46 < pardis> if you have a daemon_user and you are talking about a custom rc.d script that you have to maintain yourself anyway, then you can choose whichever you prefer
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18:21 < damarusama> what would be the easiest board like the raspberry pi to install openBSD on?
18:21 < damarusama> I'm reading trough the install process, and I was thinking to get a bananaPI
18:22 < IcePic> I would certainly look for boards that appear on the arm64.html page
18:22 < uwharrie> what's wrong with a raspberry pi if that's what you want?
18:23 < damarusama> I'm more curious to check out other board, bananapi has also 2 network card, which can be interesting in my small cluster
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18:26 < damarusama> and yes the bananapi is listed there... 
18:26 < damarusama> Most other machines load their firmware from the boot media and require additional steps to create bootable install media. 
18:27 < damarusama> that's the part that worries me, since when I check the arm64 installation instruction I'm unclear how I can figure out which device needs what to be done to be able to boot
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18:27 < mischief> save yourself some trouble and use an x86 machine
18:29 < uwharrie> my experience is that you're expected to know those things yourself or be willing to experiment and ask questions on the arm list if you hit a snag
18:31 < damarusama> right, looking into mini x86 machine can be fun too
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18:37 < damarusama> yeah I can see how a cheap lenovo thinkcenter could save me a lot of money and headache
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