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00:01 < jca> PyR3X: I don't think you can
00:01 < kn> PyR3X: pkg_create(1)   All fields correspond to useradd(8) parameters. --> and -g takes a single group, so looks like you can't
00:02 < PyR3X> hmm I'm creating a user 'blah' and I want to add him to the dialer group maybe i'll just skip creating the 'blah' group and add him not using it anyway
00:03 < kn> you could always '@exec usermod -G dialer blah'
00:03 < PyR3X> oh I like that didn't think of that -- thanks
00:04 < kn> better to @exec-add, just read the manual ;)
00:04 < PyR3X> thanks
00:05 < kn> net/dhcpcd and net/nfsen already use usermod, so that seems fine
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03:28 < heraclius> The SD card reader on my Thinkpad T480 is not working (won't assign the card a device file, nothing in dmesg on insert). Is this hardware unsupported by OpenBSD at the moment, or is the problem on my end?
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03:35 < thrig> is there anything in the BIOS about it being disabled or whatnot
03:37 < heraclius> Nothing that I could see, no. At least not obvious "SD" card related settings.
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03:44 < thrig> or security settings to disable local I/O or USB?
03:47 < heraclius> it's all open. all of the IO (USB, network, etc.) works aside from the SD reader
03:47 < thrig> bummer?
03:47 < heraclius> i suspect that the card reader is just broken, but i thought i'd check if it was a software support issue
03:47 < heraclius> yeah
03:48 < thrig> or live boot a linux to cross check
03:48 < heraclius> good idea
03:52 < Hooloovoo> how is the SD reader hooked up to the computer? I've had thinkpads with both pcie and USB
03:58 < oldlaptop> The PCIe ones in my X61, T420, and W520 all Just Work, Right Out Of The Box (TM)
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03:59 < heraclius> i'm not actually sure. it doesn't show up when i run usbdevs or pcidump
03:59 < oldlaptop> Maybe look carefully through dmesg with special attention to "not configured" lines
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03:59 < oldlaptop> IIRC newer ones should just be umass(4)
04:03 < oldlaptop> Yay, that works too :)
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04:03 < oldlaptop> That is going through the VPS that hosts my IRC client, which *shouldn't* be adding any detectable latency according to my pings
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04:04 < heraclius> i think I just found it--it's /dev/sd1. the device node is always there, and it doesn't announce anything on dmesg when i plug a card in. but when a card is in, disklabel reports it as an SD card and i can mount it.
04:06 < heraclius> thanks oldlaptop--the reference to disklabel in the see also in umass(4) connected some dots in my brain  
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11:39 < edea> Hi guys! Is someone familiar with mandoc? I want to generate a cv from mandoc in pdf.
11:39 < edea>        Everything so far seems pretty good but i want to find a way to remove the headers and footers
11:39 < edea>        of the output
11:50 < militantorc> try if you can get ghost to do that
11:50 < militantorc> ghostscript
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11:56 < edea> ok i will try that
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11:56 < militantorc> edea, its a very general tool for pdf manipulation
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12:06 < edea> yeah.. if i omit  the .Dd .Os .Dd the output is a misformatted postscript file 
12:10 < edea> as far as i understand i need to provide only the .Dd then the output is valid. But in the headers I get LOCAL UNTITLTED LOCAL that's what i want to get rid of
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12:32 < sonya_> edea: i'm not experienced in pdf, but may be $ mutool show -b file.pdf (mutool is part of mupdf)
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12:41 < sonya> no.. mutool show -b is a bad advice, sorry.. mutool create (with options) could help..
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13:22 < oldlaptop> edea: You almost certainly want a more general ("real") roff implementation for stuff that isn't manual pages.
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13:27 < oldlaptop> mandoc is very deliberately and specifically meant for typesetting manual pages, not anything else
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13:33 < edea> ls
13:35 < oldlaptop> Oh, drat.
13:36 < oldlaptop> edea: You almost certainly want a more general/"real" roff implementation for something that isn't manual pages.
13:36 < oldlaptop> mandoc is very deliberately not meant for anything else
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13:37 < edea> ok oldlaptop i will go with markdown and lowdown for now
13:37 < edea> thanks guys
13:37  * oldlaptop would suggest (La)TeX if you're switching typesetters entirely
13:38 < oldlaptop> there certainly *are* options if you are determined to write roff
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13:39 < oldlaptop> groff is IIRC what you'll see schwarze@ use for things like https://www.openbsd.org/papers/eurobsdcon2018-mandoc.pdf
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13:39 < oldlaptop> https://www.openbsd.org/papers/eurobsdcon2018-mandoc.roff "These slides use the mm and gpresent groff macros."
13:41 < oldlaptop> incidentally covers schwarze@'s... dislike for markdown, for whatever that's worth to you
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13:59 < avemestr> There doesn't seem to be a video of that talk, but a similar one from BSDCan a few months prior is available: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N26pBxJPMxs
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15:27 < sonya> a bit offtopic, i'm missing smth obvious, but why tcc can $ tcc -run prog.c  and failed with $ tcc prog.c && chmod +x ./a.out && ./a.out  ? 
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15:28 < quinq> Maybe for lack of appropriate crt
15:29 < sonya> yes
15:29 < sonya> have this: tcc: warning: 2 relocations to ro-section .text  
15:30 < sonya> ./a.out: cannot execute [Invalid argument]
15:30 < sonya> but darn $ tcc -run works and laugh loud :)
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16:23 < amnesiac> Hi guys. Could openbsd act as wireguard server and client at the same time with different wg options ?
16:23 < amnesiac> I saw official documentatoin about rdomains and test in the same server
16:24 < amnesiac> i mean in the same rdomain and to be client connected to one endpoint and at the same time act as listener
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16:35 < vortexx> amnesiac: it'd help if you could explain the topology of what you want to achieve, you can always run multiple wg interfaces to achieve what you need
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16:40 < amnesiac> vortexx, one wg interface for vpn outside as client, two others for dns querises for clouds as server listeners
16:41 < amnesiac> nothing special
16:41 < sibiria> of course it works
16:41 < oldlaptop> "wg server" and "wg client" aren't particularly sensible terms as far as wireguard is concerned (it's fundamentally a peer-to-peer sort of thing)
16:41 < sibiria> each tunnel manifests as an interface and can be treated as if they were physical such
16:41 < oldlaptop> nor does "connected" necessarily mean anything
16:42 < thrig> I never did figure out what "left" and "right" meant for openvpn
16:42 < sibiria> nor for ipsec, i presume. same type of silly
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16:44 < oldlaptop> The closest thing conceptually might be calling a node for whom no other nodes has a static wgendpoint configured a "client", and a node for whom all other nodes have a static endpoint a "server"
16:44 < thrig> a node without a cause?
16:44 < sibiria> "here" and "there" would've been better terms. but it's nice that wg forfeits this and behaves as if it was just another interface, just another local network
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16:45 < oldlaptop> they'll still behave the same way, though, a wg node will accept correctly-authenticated traffic from any address and update the corresponding wgendpoint as appropriate
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16:51 < emmanuelux> hello I have some "ndp info overwritten for fe80:4::xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx by xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx on hvn3, it comes from a laptop, is that indicate that this laptop has a malware or something wrong ? what rule can I add to pf to see what is it ?
16:52 < thrig> or it's ipv6 link local noise
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16:54 < mischief> i have a lot of junk like this in my dmesg often
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17:48 < sibiria> does anyone know what systqmp is?
17:49 < sibiria> among system processes
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17:53 < lts> sibiria: task_add(9) apparently
17:53 < lts> "The kernel provides two system taskqs: systq, which executes while holding the kernel lock, and systqmp, which does not hold the kernel lock during execution."
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17:55 < sibiria> running into a weird problem where it starts eating all CPU and eventually hard-freezes the machine
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18:00 < sibiria> (on arm64)
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18:02 < kn> emmanuelux: it means some network device reachable reachable over your hvn3 link has changed their MAC and/or IPv6 link-local address.  This is not about your own machine
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18:03 < thrig> such may be rotated to make it somewhat more difficult to track devices
18:04 < kn> ^ like phones, randomizing their MACs across wifis, i've seen those 'ndo info overwritten' a lot for apple devices (according to MAC lookup)
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18:12 < thrig> ... people who put lladdr random into their hostname.* files ...
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18:16 < Posterdati> hi
18:16 < Posterdati> who's Crystal Kolipe?
18:17 < avemestr> Someone with mad web design skillz!
18:18 < Posterdati> ahahah
18:18 < Posterdati> yes!
18:19 < Posterdati> strangely enough is not here!
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18:23 < Posterdati> avemestr: the girl in the site?
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18:43 < mischief> kn: isn't ipv6 address rotation pretty common? why does it warrant a dmesg?
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18:44 < mischief> here, you can see all the lovely dmesg spam on my firewall :-) https://0x0.st/HG7p.txt
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18:48 < kn> mischief: IPv4/ARP has been doing it for years/decades, afaict bluhm adjusted IPv6/NDP to behave similar.  other systems may have it behind a knob or debug log, we just always log it, check the commit message
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19:03 < mp322> reminder: BSDCan 2024 CFP closes Feb 12th https://www.bsdcan.org/2024/papers.php
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19:09 < sibiria> whenever i see my Arm64 VM's systqmp act up and go into 100% cpu use, i can fend it off by executing something. either immediately on the console or indirectly by something that will spawn a new process (e.g. connecting to smtp/pop3 server)
19:10 < sibiria> but i'm unsure how to dig deeper into it
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