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07:52 < __gilles> hey
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08:21 < tercaL> hi
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10:16 < amnesiac> Hi guys why wg-quick loads config from /dev/fd/<last number> ? and it's statick among few systems.
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10:36 < babz> that's just a reference to the last file descriptor opened by the program
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14:03 < moviuro> Hi all, should my home router (openbsd) have a fe80::1 IPv6 address on each of its interfaces? If so, how should I add it? `inet6 fe80::1 64` in hostname.if(5)?
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14:32 < IcePic> moviuro: those get added automatically if you have ipv6 enabled, and would be like fe80::..mac-addr-with-ff-fe-in-the-middle
14:33 < IcePic> or some other random combo with ff:fe in the middle
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14:45 < moviuro> IcePic: I have that! I was worried that I'd need to type the addr on clients... but `ping -6 _gateway` works on my client (linux). is there an OpenBSD equivalent? its own gateway/uplink is at fe80::ba0:bab ATM
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15:11 < IcePic> moviuro: ping6 fe80::ba0:bab%<name of interface>
15:12 < IcePic> since all v6 ifs have fe80 ips, you need to state which interface the packet should go out on when the destination is another fe80::
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16:35 < Bradipo> Which of the timezones in /usr/share/zoneinfo are used for TZ settings in India?
16:37 < sibiria> several, probably. they have 3 TZs or so
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16:40 < sibiria> ..or maybe they used to
16:41 < IcePic> google says: India uses only one time zone (even though it spans two geographical time zones) across the whole nation and all its territories, called Indian Standard Time (IST), which equates to UTC+05:30
16:41 < sibiria> in the past they had atleast calcutta time and bombay time, since those are at roughly opposite ends of the country
16:42 < sibiria> longitudinally
16:42 < __gilles> o/
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16:43 < Bradipo> Oh, well, I know that IST is India's TZ... I meant which file.
16:44 < Bradipo> I think I found it in /usr/share/zoneinfo/Asia
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16:49 < thrig> never get into a land war in /usr/share/zoneinfo/Asia?
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16:50 < sibiria> circular symlinks
16:50 < IcePic> I looked in /usr/share/zoneinfo/Indian/  but could not see if it was small or big indians
16:51 < Bradipo> You mean big or little indians?
16:52 < IcePic> yeah
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17:31 < jf> Asia/Kolkata is IST
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19:09 < r3kv> Can anyone point me to any reading/explain to me the risks involved with using ports?
19:10 < r3kv> I've read the porting guide, so i know what is expected of port maintainers, but what controls are iin place to enforce these guidelines?
19:11 < uwharrie> r3kv: not sure exactly what you're expecting specific to OpenBSD ports for the first question. For the second, there are code reviews in place to ensure standards/conventions/best practices are followed
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19:15 < Bradipo> r3kv: The porting guide is for folks who are creating and maintaining ports.
19:15 < Bradipo> The question, "what are the risks?" seems largely irrelevant.
19:16 < r3kv> uwharrie: i'm admin on a net-facing server that we require the upmost level of security from. We currently use no programs that aren't in base or written/vetted by our programmers. I'm trying to get a feel for how paranoid we really have to be when it comes to installing software from ports; do we continue with this attitude or start relaxing and what risks might be involved
19:16 < Bradipo> Do you mean, "what are the risks of installing packages that introduce potential vulnerabilities?"
19:16 < Bradipo> r3kv: ports is used for building packages... are you really going to be building your own packages?
19:17 < uwharrie> if you're searching for indemntity, I doubt you'll find it in ports
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19:17 < Bradipo> If you are going to build your own ports for security reasons (e.g. you don't trust the binary packages), I suppose that's one thing.
19:17 < Bradipo> Is that what you're asking though?
19:18 < Bradipo> Or are you asking, what are the risks in allowing pkg_add to download a file from cdn.openbsd.org?
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19:21 < Bradipo> There definitely are some risks using any software that is "public" facing.  Make  your security team review each individual package, and make sure that you block access to public repositories and then only allow your OpenBSD machines access to a private repository that has the "vetted" packages on it.
19:22 < thrig> my security team is telling me they're getting too old for this ...
19:22 < phy1729> They're gone anyway
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19:25 < r3kv> Bradipo: i lost connection for a few minutes there, but got your most recent message.
19:26 < Bradipo> Are you going to only allow installation of packages from your own PKG_PATH?
19:27 < Bradipo> e.g. echo http://vettedpackages.my-secure.dom/pub/OpenBSD > /etc/installurl on each machine and then block access to everything else?
19:28 < r3kv> We basically do all those restrictions already. I'd like to relax restrictions a fair bit, but don't want to be the person forever remembered as opening us up to a trojan/supply-chain attack/etc
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19:29 < uwharrie> to what end though?
19:30 < r3kv> uwharrie: you mentioned code reviews. Is there a specific metric of how many people are guaranteed to check a package before it's accepted?
19:31 < r3kv> uwharrie: as with most security trade-offs, for convenience, mainly
19:31 < Bradipo> I don't know if source code in ports (except the ports system proper) is reviewed in the same way that other base components are.
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19:32 < uwharrie> yeah, I was specifically talking about reviewing of ports infrastructure and non-upstreamed patches
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19:33 < uwharrie> and there are no specifics on how many approvals a change needs before being committed; it all ends up depdending on the size or complication of the change and the reputation of the person making it
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19:44 < r3kv> There's no extra security on ports beyond any other package management ecosystem? If security at all matters there's no alternative than an in-house source audit?
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19:45 < r3kv> I get that everything like this always comes down to trust, and where you draw the line...
19:48 < uwharrie> no, packages/ports are essentially a use at your own risk type of system. If something is important enough, it'll get the extra attention and be vendored into base
19:48 < __gilles> 19:31 < Bradipo> I don't know if source code in ports (except the ports system proper) is reviewed in the same way that other base components are.
19:49 < __gilles> they're not
19:49 < __gilles> think of something like chrome
19:49 < __gilles> a person taking care of the port can't possibly review the entire project
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19:50 < __gilles> there's some reviewing when there's a use of broken functions and attempts to get the fixes upstream
19:50 < thrig> sqlite was dropped from core in part due to too much churn to review
19:50 < __gilles> but not the same kind of review as for base
19:51 < __gilles> having had to deal with PCI DSS env, the openbsd machines were basically base + one or two packages we had vetted
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19:52 < __gilles> (+ a hardening guide)
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19:53 < __gilles> on an unrelated note, I read that there are some bluetooth keyboards that pair to dongles without pins and that could be used with openbsd
19:53 < __gilles> anyone using one ?
19:56 < r3kv> If we (in-house) had previously performed an audit on a project and a port then became available, how could i check the changes between the binary offered for download in ports and the master source tree for the project? Other than becomimg active on the ports mailing list is there any way to check the "reputation factor" for a particular maintainer?
19:57 < uwharrie> you can't and no
19:57 < __gilles> nope
19:57 < __gilles> you can use git or cvs to review the diff yourself
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19:57 < __gilles> and do your own builds for specific ports
19:58 < __gilles> but if you trust openbsd, you kinda have to trust the developers too
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19:58 < __gilles> unless you review everything in it
19:58 < __gilles> based on what you're expecting, you're better off not using ports
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19:59 < __gilles> runelind o/
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20:01 < runelind> not sure why I keep disconnecting :( 
20:01 < r3kv> Yeah, i can understand that. But there's a difference between trusting the source in base and the signify'd downloads on their server, with the dozens of people all working on the various parts and code reviews of changes, verses what amounts to downloading a binary a random volunteer has provided (however generous a service that provides for those that can risk trusting it)
20:01 < __gilles> it doesnt work that way, the volunteer does not provide the binary
20:02 < __gilles> they volunteer provides the Makefile and sometimes diffs
20:02 < __gilles> the build is done by a specific set of people
20:03 < r3kv> Any way of getting those Makefiles/diffs?
20:03 < __gilles> yes, they are all in CVS / git
20:03 < uwharrie> https://www.openbsd.org/anoncvs.html
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20:04 < __gilles> https://github.com/openbsd/ports/tree/master/net/arp-scan
20:04 < __gilles> for example
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20:05 < r3kv> Right, that's what i think i've been after then. Like you say, i'm probably better off sticking to base for this, but if i recommend any change, i might say we could check the Makefiles/diffs before building ourselves, gentoo-linux style.
20:07 < r3kv> Thank you, all, for the help.
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20:13 < avemestr> fe:el:ba:d in arp-scan, haha!
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20:13 < avemestr> *fe:e1:ba:d, sorry.
20:14 < mischief> magic mac prefix from openbsd kernel
20:14 < babz> de:ca:fb:ad
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20:15 < MonsoonSecrecy> why is qutebrowser still using qtwebengine 5.15.10 and not 6.5.2?
20:16 < avemestr> Seems like a question for the qutebrowser folks?
20:16 < thrig> probably lack of tuits
20:18 < MonsoonSecrecy> seems like pyqt6 is missing in ports?
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21:23 < polarian> babz: decafbad?
21:23 < polarian> what significance is that?
21:24 < __gilles> haha
21:24 < polarian> what?
21:24 < __gilles> had not seen it :p
21:25 < __gilles> decaf coffee tastes bad
21:26 < babz> significance ? depends...
21:26 < babz> is ntohl() noop on your platform ?
21:27 < avemestr> Not according to man htonl(3).
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21:30 < ssm_> As a long time coffee drinker that has extensive experince brewing espresso, french press, pour-over, moka pots, and drip, I really can't tell a difference with decaf
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21:41 < sibiria> agglomerated decaf tastes very different from regular agglomerate
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21:51 < caze> Hoff just did a video about decaf.
21:51 < caze> It's bad because it's neglected.
21:52 < ssm_> oh hey picom finally has a new release
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21:52 < ssm_> already had a port written for picom-next, so this should be easy
21:52 < caze> Sort of like how robusta coffee beans are bad because it's such a hardy plant that it's just neglected, and so while it still yields viable fruit, it's not the best it could be.
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21:54 < ssm_> most decaf I try tastes burnt (and the beans are super oily and sticky, a sign they've been overroasted). It doesn't taste "bad" per-say, whether or not the brew is bitter or sour is very obvious and due to poor brewing technique on my end
21:55 < caze> Well they also stale really fast, because the decaffeination process opens up the bean structure.
21:55 < ssm_> yeah
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21:57 < ssm_> maybe I just like the taste of old shitty stale coffee beans. I'll admit I don't have the best storage
21:57 < ssm_> usually just keep the beans in the bag with some definitely-not-airtight clip
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