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16:47 < kodcode> how can I use avrdude not as root?
16:47 < kodcode> (or doas)
16:48 < sibiria> have you added yourself to the group the relevant serial port uses
16:48 < sibiria> dialer, i believe
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17:00 < kodcode> sibiria: just added. But did not help. I am trying to upload my code with avrdude and an USBasp programmer. Works only with root.
17:00 < phy1729> You need to logout and in before the group change will take effect
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17:01 < phy1729> (can probably cheat and just doas -u <your user> <shell>)
17:02 < kodcode> phy1729: did su <username> and double checked with 'id'. Still not.
17:02 < kodcode> Or this wouldn't be enough just to su <myself>?
17:03 < phy1729> dialer group and  avrdude -c arduino -p m328p -P /dev/cuaU0 -b 115200 -U flash:w:${TARGET}.hex:i   work for me
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17:03 < sibiria> su <something>... try: su -l <something>
17:03 < sibiria> if you absolutely need to substitute for some other user instead of adding _yourself_ to dialer group
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17:08 < kodcode> tried: su -l kodcode; didn't help. https://pastebin.com/iEE0CN5L (sorry clbin did not work for me)
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17:15 < pardis> well, the usb(4) and ugen(4) device nodes do not have group dialer, so that is unlikely to make any difference
17:16 < pardis> you'll want to find out which device nodes it's accessing (ktrace may help) and set up permissions so it can access them
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17:16 < pardis> this may involve adding yourself to another group, or changing permissions on the device node itself
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18:21 < sibiria> kodcode: you need to log out and back in for group memberships to be refreshed
18:21 < sibiria> i presume it's a typical AVR board with usb-serial bridge, e.g. /dev/cu*? some arduino or so
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18:26 < fettuccine> you can also `su - $USER` until you log out/in
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18:27 < pardis> look at the paste
18:27 < pardis> the group membership *is* effective
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18:27 < pardis> the problem is it's not relevant to whichever device node is being accessed
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18:30 < mischief> i seem to be able to use cu in the dialer group with ucom
18:30 < mischief> fugu$ id; ls -l /dev/cuaU0; ps -auxww|grep cu|grep -v grep
18:31 < mischief> uid=1000(mischief) gid=1000(mischief) groups=1000(mischief), 0(wheel), 9(wsrc), 21(wobj), 117(dialer)
18:31 < mischief> crw-rw----  1 root  dialer   66, 128 Feb  8 10:29 /dev/cuaU0
18:31 < mischief> mischief 49594  0.0  0.0   848  1424 p2  I+p    20Dec23    1:22.18 cu -s 115200 -d -l /dev/cuaU0
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18:31 < Bradipo> I've used cu with ucom devices many times.
18:31 < Bradipo> In dialer group.
18:32 < sibiria> oh it's a usbasp/tinyisp flasher. they use libusb and probably interface with /dev/ugen
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18:33 < sibiria> kodcode: if your user is a wheelie you can try "chmod g+rw /dev/ugen*" and see if that sorts it out
18:34 < sibiria> (as root)
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18:44 < ABBBF> Hello
18:45 < fettuccine> hi
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19:17 < kodcode> sibiria: indeed, dmesg: `ugen2 at uhub0 port 3 "www.fischl.de USBasp" rev 1.10/1.02 addr 6`. what you suggested did not help :/
19:18 < kodcode> (and yes, my user is wheelie)
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19:44 < sibiria> kodcode: perhaps libusb is doing something that openbsd inherently demands super user privs for, or fiddling with /dev/usb directly. i'm out of ideas except for ktracing avrdude like pardis suggested. it should give some insight
19:45 < sibiria> you could try giving group-write perms to /dev/usb* as well, just to see what's what
19:45 < sibiria> there's some security implications with this, but testing it is fine
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22:08 < kodcode> sibiria: so, giving write perms to group for /dev/usb* helped. You are suggesting I should not keep those perms on for security reasons? The alternative right now would be having to run avrdude as root every time
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22:10 < sibiria> kodcode: seems you have no choice, really. the concern is of course that your non-superuser has low-level access to WRITE to USB ports
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22:13 < phy1729> The alternative I think Theo prefers is you write a proper driver.
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22:15 < sibiria> or, if feasible for you, use the usb-serial bridge to your bootloader-prepared AVR device
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22:16 < sibiria> (instead of the ICSP until actually required)
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22:30 < pardis> you can use hotplugd(8) to give those permissions only to the required usb device when you attach/remove that device
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