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03:51 < oreb_> I wonder how well openbsd would perform on one of those new celeron G6900's. they are 3.5ghz dual-core chips without hyperthreading. 
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05:10 < remiliascarlet> In my experience, OpenBSD performs well on anything it can run on.
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09:58 < rIMpossible> Will we get unbound 1.19.1 which solves the keytrap attack?
09:59 < rIMpossible> https://www.theregister.com/2024/02/13/dnssec_vulnerability_internet/
09:59 < rIMpossible> https://www.heise.de/news/DNS-Server-Bind-und-Unbound-stolpern-ueber-Sicherheitsluecke-KeyTrap-9627276.html
10:00 < polarian> rIMpossible: see the mailing list 
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11:03 < loganaden> hi guys
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11:26 < tercaL> hi
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12:44 < XFXF-100> hi - how to solve "Caused by: can't checkout from 'https://github.com/aatxe/irc': you are in the offline mode (--offline)" (new rust port)?
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14:17 < phy1729> are you building a port?
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14:21 < XFXF-100> yes - i looked into security/vaultwarden, since it also depends on rust
14:22 < XFXF-100> but after creating a skeleton for matrirc, I'm presented with the above mentioned error...
14:22 < phy1729> https://man.openbsd.org/man5/cargo-module.5
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14:26 < XFXF-100> phy1729 thx!
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14:36 < XFXF-100> o.k. - this helps a little bit, but one more question: do i need ports for the crates I'm using, if they're hosted on github and not the official repo?
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14:40 < phy1729> nope, the targets at the bottom will output the text that goes into modules.inc iirc
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14:56 < unrznbl> installed 74 on lenovo x220 tablet, ifconfig iwn0 shows status: active and my ssid but not getting an ip address, can't figure out how to debug, openbsd newbie, long-time linux/unix user.
14:58 < unrznbl> etc hostname.iwn0 has "join <ssid> wpakey <password> \n inet autoconf"
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15:01 < Bradipo> unrznbl: For wpakey, are you using a passphrase or hex key?
15:02 < IcePic> if one gets onto the wifi but doesn't get an ip address, then you should be able to tcpdump the iwn0 and see some traffic that is not sent from your host I guess
15:02 < Bradipo> Does your iwn0 support wpa?
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15:03 < Bradipo> And yes, if it really is connected, then tcpdump may reveal something.
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15:07 < unrznbl> ok, how would I check iwn0 supporting wpa? ifconfig iwn0?
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15:08 < unrznbl> I see in that output ieee80211: join ... wpakey wpaprotos wpa2 wpaakms psk wpaciphers ccmp wpagroupcipher ccmp, are those supported bits for iwn0?
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15:10 < op2> unrznbl: a common mistake is to forget to quote the passphrase in hostname.if when it has 'fancy' characters
15:10 < unrznbl> I do see traffic from various other hosts in tcpdump -i iwn0
15:11 < unrznbl> ah, the passphrase is very plain text, no spaces so maybe not that, cool.
15:11 < Bradipo> Well, if you're seeing traffic with tcpdump then that's a good sign I suppose.
15:11 < IcePic> yes.
15:14 < unrznbl> I don't see any traffic when I do "tcpdump -i iwn0 port 67 or port 68" is there a way to stop/start the interface/driver? So far I just use "sh /etc/netstart iwn0"
15:14 < unrznbl> duh, "ifconfig iwn0 down" been too long using "ip" command in linux :p
15:15 < Bradipo> I used to just use "sh /etc/netstart if" but lately it seems that this doesn't work as reliably.
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15:17 < unrznbl> maybe it's some router issue, I see "daemon.info hostapd: phy1-ap0: STA <iwn0 lladdr> IEEE 802.11: authenticated" in my router logs, probably why I see traffic from others. Will check my router some more. :)
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15:34 < unrznbl> sorry, I guess my connection is flaky. If anyone had ideas for me, please be kind enough to re-type :( right now I don't see any problems on my router and wondered if I could manually add some routes to the iwn0 interface somehow... like a static IP and such.
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15:37 < unrznbl> Bradipo any ideas? Thanks for the suggestions so far.
15:39 < Bradipo> You can certainly add static IPs.  Just configure it statically in /etc/hostname.iwn0 instead of using DHCP.
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15:49 < unrznbl> right, do I need to add a route to that interface somehow?
15:50 < Bradipo> That's what /etc/mygate is for.
15:50 < Bradipo> man mygate
15:51 < maqish> hello
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15:52 < Bradipo> Goodbye.
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15:54 < unrznbl> ah, that file isn't there, probably because no interfaces got IP addresses yet. ok... will keep poking another time. thanks for the help.
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15:54 < Bradipo> No, that file isn't there because it's not there by default.
15:54 < Bradipo> You're coming from Linux where everything always exists...
15:55 < Bradipo> Well, in OpenBSD, it only exists if it needs to exist.
15:55 < Bradipo> The file /etc/mygate is used if you are doing static IP assignments.  You wouldn't use it for "autoconf".
15:56 < thrig> there is (sometimes) relevant examples under /etc/examples
15:56 < maqish> im glad openbsd is there to bring life into my ibook G4. 
15:57 < maqish> which i can say is a journey in itself..  
15:57 < Bradipo> Yes, it was an adventure getting OpenBSD on a G3.
15:58 < Bradipo> Ran reasonably well, but I'm glad I threw the hardware out.
15:58 < maqish> well installing was not that hard i must admit..  but making it work so it is somewhat a usefull experience
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15:58 < Bradipo> Right, same experience here.
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15:59 < unrznbl> cool. good to know "the way", I like it. I come to OpenBSD for the smaller code base and to help it "keep going". Linux annoys me. :) I am a fan of suckless.org, alpine, musl and such.
15:59 < Bradipo> So in case I wasn't clear, you would only ever manually create /etc/mygate, nothing automatically creates it.
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15:59 < Bradipo> That's for use in conjunction with static configuration in /etc/hostname.if.
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16:02 < maqish> i do think the G4 ibook packs a little more power than the G3..  still..  links and or dillo are the only 2 really usable browsers
16:02 < Bradipo> Well, I meant the G3 workstation.
16:02 < Bradipo> w3m should also work.
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16:08 < maqish> it does indeed...
16:08 < maqish> still not able to login to reddit though :)
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16:12 < maqish> but next up is bluetooth..  
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16:15 < maqish> well... that was easy and quick... bluetooth is not supported   
16:15 < Bradipo> bluetooth on OpenBSD is not a thing.
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16:16 < thrig> some folks use a usb-to-bluetooth thingy
16:26 < rIMpossible> thrig: worked for me only, if a device without keyboard is delivered with it's dongle (like headset + BT dongle).
16:27 < rIMpossible> Usual BT dongles do not work IMHO. There is no frontend to enter a pairing code on OpenBSD side.
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16:28 < eea> on a whim, i plugged in my BT headset usb dongle to openbsd system
16:28 < eea> surprise face when audio just worked(tm)
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16:31 < rIMpossible> eea: That's what I am talking about, I have a Sennheiser presence with a dongle. That works. Headsets or other devices without a with-it's-delivered-dongle do not work
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16:32 < rIMpossible> So basically, buying a cheap chinese aliexpress dongle and a cheap aliexpress headset do not work. There is no frontend to control the pairing
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17:27 < maqish> also finally ports are working.  was not able to build..  seems i was missing some stuff..  downloaded it again and building (zelda3)
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18:27 < lts> Is running syspatch enough to get unbound fixed? /var/log/messages seems to show I needed to restart the service manually as well
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18:29 < thrig> syspatch doesn't do restarts or reboots
18:29 < avemestr> But sometimes it says "reboot to load new kernel" or something like that.
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20:02 < amnesiac> Hi
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20:03 < amnesiac> why upgrading with "sysupgrade -s" does not download SHA256.sig file and autoupdate script has yes answer to not verifying sets ?
20:03 < amnesiac> while SHA256.sig file exists on ftp 
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20:04 < phy1729> You shouldn't have to answer anything with sysupgrade
20:05 < amnesiac> yes, cause it uses predefined answers
20:05 < phy1729> SHA256.sig isn't in the ramdisk because SHA356.sig includes a checksum for it
20:05 < amnesiac> my question about different
20:05 < phy1729> and sysupgrade check the ramdisk and the sets
20:05 < amnesiac> before reboot ?
20:06 < phy1729> Presumably you have sysupgrade open, so look a few lines above where there's signify
20:07 < amnesiac> i invoked "sysupgrade -s" id downloaded only SHA256 and sets, rebooted and upgraded ignoring verification, cause it set in autoupgrade script
20:07 < uwharrie> ignored what verification?
20:07 < amnesiac> verification of sets
20:08 < amnesiac> phy1729, understood. Thank you.
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20:10 < amnesiac> phy1729, found rm SHA256.sig in there 
20:11 < phy1729> yes you want the line above that one
20:11 < rIMpossible> If I understood right. With 7.4-stable we stay at unbound 1.18.0 but got the patch backported from 1.19.1 to 1.18.0, yes?
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20:12 < amnesiac> phy1729, yes, the one above just checks all sets. so reasonable not to check it after reboot. 
20:12 < amnesiac> Thank you.
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21:14 < unrznbl> hi. I asked earlier today about a problem with iwn0 not getting a DHCP address. I notice now that my openwrt router says the laptop is connected but I don't see any DHCP related info there. I did see a few bits via tcpdump on the laptop that maybe a DHCP REQUEST was sent via udp broadcast but no response. Now I haven't see any more of that traffic for a while even after a reboot. Any ideas would be great. ifconfig iwn0 says 
21:14 < unrznbl> "status: active"
21:15 < unrznbl> hostname.iwn0 has "join <ssid> wpakey <pass> \n inet autoconf"
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21:21 < thrig> is inet autoconf followed by a \n
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21:23 < thrig> mine looks something like https://thrig.me/tmp/hostname.iwx0.txt
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21:28 < unrznbl> yeah, mine looks like that
21:28 < unrznbl> cat -e /etc/hostname.iwn0
21:28 < unrznbl> join ssid wpakey secret
21:28 < unrznbl> inet autoconf$
21:28 < thrig> again, is inet autoconf followed by a \n
21:28 < unrznbl> blah... sorry, copy/paste by typing is error prone, dollars at the end
21:28 < unrznbl> by an empty line? no.
21:29 < thrig> is the last byte in the file a \n
21:29 < thrig> echo -n whoops | while read line; do echo where did $line go; done
21:30 < phy1729> od -tx1 /etc/hostname.iwn0  should end in an 0a
21:30 < sibiria> cat /etc/hostname.iwn0  -  does your prompt manifest on a new line, or right after "autoconf"
21:30 < unrznbl> yeah, it's there, hexdump -c shows \n, od -tx1 shows 0a
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21:30 < unrznbl> i made the file with ed, should "just work" right? ;) but yeah, it has the newline at the end.
21:31 < thrig> yes, ed tends not to produce broken files
21:33 < sibiria> vi produces non-posix textfiles by default. bad citizen!
21:33 < unrznbl> haha, good I don't use it anymore ;) (editor flame war!!! (not)) (((emacs lisp inspired)))
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21:35 < unrznbl> should sh /etc/netstart iwn0 cause the system to "restart" iwn0 and make it try to broadcast DHCP requests again? I don't see any traffic with "tcpdump -nvi -i iwn0 -s 1500 port 67 or port 68" where I was seeing that previously... and I don't see the requests at the router (I think... will double check the log now)
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21:37 < unrznbl> so odd, on the openwrt router (which works for lots of other hosts) I see logs for this openbsd laptop that say things that confirm the "status: active" from ifconfig, like "WPA: pairwise key handshake completed (RSN)" and "phy1-ap0: EAPOL-4WAY-HS-COMPLETED"
21:37 < thrig> rcctl ls started | grep dhcp
21:38 < unrznbl> anyhow, glad to be here (trying to use openbsd), got re-inspired by https://media.ccc.de/v/34c3-8968-are_all_bsds_created_equally
21:38 < unrznbl> "dhcpleased"
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21:39 < unrznbl> I saw in /var/log/messages I think that dhclient was deprecated, "dhclient: dhclient will go away, stop using it" because I tried to use it a few times yesterday I think.
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21:43 < unrznbl> ah, here's something I have seen twice now when I run "sh /etc/netstart iwn0" in blue (kernel log right?) "iwn0: fatal firmware error"
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21:45 < unrznbl> I did rccctl stop dhcpleased and then "dhcpleased -vd | tee log" and am seeing "DHCPDISCOVER on iwn0", "iface_timeout[2]: Init" and "state_transition[iwn0] Init -> Init, timo: 8" and then 16, 32, 64 for "timo: " so I guess the discover is timing out from the router. hmm
21:48 < unrznbl> I did notice during install yesterday that fw_update ran and updated a few things. I can try a usb wifi dongle maybe as a workaround and see if I can't dig into fixing the issue "for real". Thanks for the help.
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21:51 < Bradipo> unrznbl: tcpdump shows the packets going out from iwn0?
21:51 < unrznbl> I got three packets once, but none for a while now...
21:54 < unrznbl> ah, wrong tcpdump command, when I include filter 'udp' I see them.
21:54 < Bradipo> So if the packets are going out iwn0, where are they going?
21:55 < Bradipo> Do you see them on your router?
21:55 < Bradipo> Assuming you have the ability to tcpdump (or wire sniff) on the router.
21:55 < thrig> is the router weird with an IP address not on the subnet?
21:55 < unrznbl> I don't. I think that must be the problem somehow. The radio connection is good but udp not. I will check another time.
21:57 < unrznbl> the router is 192.168.1.1, I should be able to run tcpdump on the router no problem. It is openwrt so I have access and can install packages 👍
21:58 < Bradipo> Were you able to configure a static IP successfully?
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22:00 < unrznbl> no. I tried. it seemed to make "route show" hang forever if I did something like "ifconfig iwn0 inet 192.168.1.222 netmask 255.255.255.0"
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22:10 < Bradipo> unrznbl: Did you try to ping the gateway?  Presumably 192.168.1.1?
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22:11 < Bradipo> I've gotten in the habit of using "route -n show" or "netstat -nr"
22:11 < Bradipo> To avoid DNS lookups that may fail.
22:11 < unrznbl> "route show" does eventually give some reasonable results, like "destination 192.168.1.1" on iface iwn0, maybe I have a big loop going somehow...
22:12 < Bradipo> But can you "ping -n 192.168.1.1"
22:12 < unrznbl> yeah, "netstat -rn" works better. I tried that ping and it just hangs.
22:12 < Bradipo> I'm not sure how you could have a loop.
22:13 < sibiria> unrznbl: sometimes running netstart on an interface isn't enough to "unscrew" it. you may need to down/delete/destroy it for a bit
22:13 < thrig> non-looping CPU might be a small problem
22:13 < unrznbl> netstat -rn is quick and shows three entries for iwn0, 192.168.1/24 -> 192.168.1.240, 192.168.1.240 -> mac, 192.168.1.255 -> 192.168.1.240
22:13 < sibiria> i've run into such wird association problems with wifi interfaces plenty of times on openbsd
22:13 < sibiria> weird*
22:13 < unrznbl> will try a tcpdump on the openwrt...
22:14 < sibiria> you can simply check if the interface has associated with the openwrt "radio"
22:14 < sibiria> if not, there's not gonna be any traffic
22:14 < unrznbl> it has. the radio is up, I can see traffic from other hosts, an entry in the openwrt router UI, etc...
22:14 < unrznbl> status: active in ifconfig iwn0
22:16 < Bradipo> And you're certain it is associated with *your* WIFI?
22:16 < Bradipo> And not someone elses?
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22:20 < unrznbl> yeah, for sure. I see the mac address of iwn0 in the web UI of the router.
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22:20 < Bradipo> Seems strange then that ping wouldn't work.
22:20 < Bradipo> If it's authenticated.
22:21 < unrznbl> I can see tcpdump udp DHCP:DISCOVER packets going out and other DHCP traffic on the router with tcpdump, but no reception from laptop to router. I suspect the layers above radio aren't working, so TCP and UDP aren't going out over the radio. Maybe a firmware issue or something. Thanks for the debugs. I gotta pause for now. 👍
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