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14:27 < amnesiac> Hi
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14:28 < amnesiac> which local_lock for nfs v3 on openbsd are used ?
14:28 < amnesiac> posix ?
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14:54 < Release6890> I have a fresh OpenBSD 7.4 install on an old System76 Lemur laptop. It seems to be working, but the default FVWM title, menu text, and icon text is a bit too small. Xterm text was also unreadably small, but I was able to fix that by setting XTerm*faceName and XTerm*faceSize in ~/.Xdefault. Any suggestions on how to handle FVWM specifically or other display resolution issues generally? - For example, 
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14:54 < Release6890> Firefox is just slightly too small. Using GNOME in the past I had to use fractional scaling of 1.25x to get a readable interface.
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15:20 < Release6890> Does fvwm as included with OpenBSD have support for Xft?
15:21 < avemestr> Would scaling with xrandr be a better approach? So everything is scaled.
15:22 < Release6890> Thanks for the suggestion, but `xrandr -scale ...` didn't work out. I tried that and it left everything fuzzy.
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15:23 < Release6890> In addition Firefox ended up insanely large. I suspect the inconsistencies are between X11 using on DPI and Xft using another.
15:24 < Release6890> I am guessing that since "-adobe-helvetica-bold-r-*-*-14-*-*-*-*-*-*-*" is half the size of "XTerm*faceName: DejaVu Sans Mono
15:25 < Release6890> XTerm*faceSize: 10"
15:26 < Lucas6023> is it possible to give a vmd vm access to a local disk? manpage seems to imply it's only possible to associate a regular file containing a disk image. My usecase would be read a disk formatted with XFS.
15:27 < op2> Lucas6023: it's not
15:27 < Lucas6023> RIP
15:28 < op2> iirc because pledge doesn't allow passing non regular fds (like character devices)
15:29 < sibiria> i think you need fvwm3 for that
15:30 < sibiria> xenocara stuck with bundling fvwm2
15:30 < Release6890> @sibiria - Thanks. I am getting that impression as well.
15:31 < Release6890> In the spirit of minimalism perhaps I am trying to hard to make this old display work with the default OpenBSD tools.
15:33 < Lucas6023> well, I guess my best option is to boot some Linux in a physical machine and rsync the data away
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15:43 < amnesiac> Lucas6023, qemu could od this for you
15:43 < amnesiac> *do
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15:44 < amnesiac> also great idea to passthrough devices to hypervisor 
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20:17 < dfdx> Hi #openbsd, I'm a noob running into alot of problems with gcc, gdb, and R. Firstly, when I pkg_add gcc-11 and gdb-9, I can compile programs and debug them without any issues. However, installing R complains that it can't install gcc-8 because of a conflict with gcc-11. Fine. I'll downgrade to gcc-8. Now R is installed, but when I try to use gdb (on an unrelated C project), I get the following error:
20:17 < dfdx> Error while reading shared library symbols:
20:17 < dfdx> Dwarf Error: wrong version in compilation unit header (is 4, should be 2) [in module /usr/libexec/ld.so]
20:18 < dfdx> I get that error even when I compile using gcc's "-gdwarf-2" flag. Can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong? Or point me in the right direction? Thanks.
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20:19 < thrig> I manually compile R against gcc-11
20:19 < dfdx> thrig: ah... do you do that in /usr/ports? (I am also a ports, noob, so sorry if this is a dumb question).
20:20 < thrig> nope.
20:20 < dfdx> I see, so you just straight up download the R.tar.gz and compile it somehwere using gcc-11 that you installed via pkg_add?
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20:22 < thrig> https://thrig.me/tmp/buildr.txt
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20:25 < dfdx> thank you. i will try just compiling R myself then using gcc-11. shame that the package is so old and broken. 
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20:26 < thrig> the latest R failed to build with wacky errors
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20:29 < dfdx> that's fine, but the R in ports installs a year-old version that won't even work with gcc-11. anyways, i'm not here to crib. thanks for the pointers! 
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20:34 < dfdx> another weird thing. when I run "gdb" I get verison gdb-6.3, but when I run egdb I get verison gdb-9.2. Have I messed something up somewhere?
20:34 < thrig> nope
20:35 < dfdx> okay. thank you again. :)
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20:40 < op2> dfdx: gdb is in base and it's the old pre-gplv3 version, egdb is from ports and it's the latest version
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20:40 < op2> more or less at least ;D
20:43 < dfdx> op2: got it. my hunch was exactly that, that gdb was in base and egdb was newer, but with a difference license.
20:43 < dfdx> because I think the same thing happened with gcc.
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20:44 < dfdx> actually, i don't even see gcc in base. I think OpenBSD uses clang now.
20:44 < thrig> most archs do
20:45 < dfdx> yes, I think FreeBSD and Apple (perhaps obviously) also do.
20:47 < op2> some archs still have gcc 4.x (or 3.x) in base, and some have both gcc and clang
20:49 < sibiria> yes, macOS (and OS X) is built with clang/llvm since ~mid-2000s
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21:38 < rnelson> The 2050s?! ;)
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23:20 < remiliascarlet> rnelson: So macOS was built with clang in the future? (And yes, grammar is deliberately bad.)
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23:22 < rnelson> English is fun :)
23:22 < thrig> aorist, if you want a fancy word
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23:44 < aqsd> That is a very nice and useful word thrig, thank you.
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