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08:08 < sonya> hello, just installed firefox-esr on fresh 7.4 and it shows errors with "cert_storage" and "glean_core".. is it just my fault or else? thanks!
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13:36 < GnarledHorn> morning o/ ; I'm at 2 months now since switching from git to rsync for my simple case of syncronizing a set of shared files between a number of devices I use. I'm glad I made the switch
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13:37 < oldlaptop> that makes sense insofar as git is a tool for distributed version control and rsync is a tool for synchronizing sets of files between different computers
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13:37 < GnarledHorn> As mentioned in my mid-February update, the only part that needs improvement is managing the movement or deletion of files. It requires either removing / moving the files on the source-of-truth or temporarily adding a '--delete-*' flag to the rsync invocation. That's easy enough but I often forget until I'm ready to sync and then I have to try and remember what was moved
13:38 < renaud> unison can also be used to sync files bidirectionally
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13:41 < GnarledHorn> renaud: Thank you, but I'm not really seeking a different tool. Just sharing my experience.  The bidirectional piece is fine with rsync. I am "once bitten, twice shy" about keeping deletes turned on all the time though, haha
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13:42 < GnarledHorn> Thinking aloud, I could pull from the source-of-truth in my scheme with '--dry-run' to remind me what files I may have moved or removed locally
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13:43  * pardis wonders what this has to do with OpenBSD
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13:49 < sibiria> that's the age-old problem with "sync"
13:49 < sibiria> accidentally syncing in the wrong direction, causing new files to be deleted
13:50 < sibiria> because nothing in the common terminology clearly indicates which side is the origin and which side is the subject
13:52 < cat5> best done in shell script, only need to write it correctly once. a full backup alongside a differential or so
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13:57 < GnarledHorn> cat5, sibiria: Agreed. I wrapped it up into two scripts that keep the flags sorted out. One named push and one named pull. In my scheme, I do have a central source-of-truth that is pushed to and pulled from, so that helps to avoid whoopsies
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15:03 < GnarledHorn> I stumbled onto the tls_init (3) man page recently. The tls API provided libtls is a joy to use. I was able to write an HTTP interaction across TLS to pull and print an index page in73 lines of C code, including comments and includes
15:03 < IcePic> \o/
15:03 < GnarledHorn> that's pretty nice! I was expecting it to be difficult to interact with a TLS-secured HTTP server in C, but nope. Thanks OpenBSD :)
15:04 < inz> Agreed, libtls is very nice
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15:17 < PyR3X> what is the process to 'upgrade' a package that has a different flavor i.e. nextcloud-26 to nextcloud-27
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15:18 < PyR3X> Can't install nextcloud-27.1.7p0 because of conflicts (nextcloud-26.0.11p1)
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15:25 < ssm_> if it conflicts I think you can only install 1 at a time
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15:28 < sonya> hello, is there a (simple) way to purge/clean cached/unused memory (from RAM) and pretend that we're just started from cold boot? thanks! (or any other way to control RAM usage)
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15:30 < IcePic> sonya: why would anyone want to do that?
15:30 < sonya> seems i have a leak somewhere.. looking to catch it and set long-term test/stress
15:31 < IcePic> messing about with unused memory will not in any way affect that leak
15:31 < IcePic> by definition, a leak would be where memory is NOT returned to the OS from a process
15:31 < phy1729> But when the process exits it'll be reclaimed free'd or not.
15:32 < jmcunx> sonya: I believe there is no need to do that on any UN*X tyoe system.  Maybe check this out https://man.openbsd.org/systat.1
15:32 < sonya> the leak fills RAM, then swap and i'm looking for a way to trim/reset
15:32 < sonya> thx!
15:32 < phy1729> Is the leak in a program?
15:32 < sonya> systat here is in use
15:32 < sonya> leak seems to be my soft, yes
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15:33 < sonya> in
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15:33 < phy1729> So when you exit, it'll get cleaned up anyway
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15:34 < sonya> reboot helps, yes.. and it's the only help so far.. soft is a daemon (i suppose) and i just can't nail exact conditions when it goes
15:35 < sonya> it's not 146% of time active
15:35 < jmcunx> Also, in my experience, OpenBSD will eventyally likk it.  7.4 has a way of finding leaks during development (looking for the link)
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15:35 < sonya> smth triggers it
15:35 < sonya> ok. Huge Thanks!
15:35 < jmcunx> likk - kill :)
15:35 < sonya> got it
15:36 < phy1729> You don't need to reboot. When the program exits the memory will be reclaimed regardless of if you free'd it.
15:36 < Bradipo> jmcunx: OpenBSD will kill the process?
15:36 < sonya> ok.. so kill one by one the suspects and see..
15:37 < jmcunx> sonya: https://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article;sid=20230417074903
15:37 < sonya> thx! reading
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15:38 < jmcunx> Bradipo: I have a small prog with a leak that runs in bg forever.  After ~ 24 hours it code dumped.
15:38 < jmcunx> I debugged it and discovered a leak, that was a while ago
15:39 < IcePic> ulimits are good for killing processes that run amok
15:39 < jmcunx> that is when I first started using OpenBSD a few years ago
15:39 < jmcunx> Linux was happy forever eating memory :)
15:39 < sonya> jmcunx: will follow Your advise, thanks again!
15:40 < thrig> there's no oom killer to take a walk with clown shoes across your process table on openbsd
15:40 < jmcunx> I test using that link all the time, IIRC 7.5 will add more to it
15:42 < ssm_> the openbsd approach to oom killer is login.conf
15:43 < ssm_> and a hefty swap
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22:44 < ssm_> when I try to start unbound with interface: 10.0.5.1 in my server: config, I get `error: can't bind socket: Can't assign requested address for 10.0.5.1 port 53`
22:44 < ssm_> debug message before error is `creating udp4 socket 10.0.5.1 53`. Missing firewall rule?
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22:53 < mischief> ssm_: ktrace?
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23:50 < vortexx> rm -rf .wine
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23:56 < ssm_> mischief: struct sockaddr { AF_INET, 10.0.0.1:53 } \n bind -1 errno 49 Can't assign requested address
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23:57 < thrig> is something else already listening there?
23:57 < ssm_> shouldn't be, tried some other addresses too
23:58 < thrig> for example something on *:53 somewhere
23:58 < ssm_> actually this might be a more useful question, I've set up iked in accordance to faq17, but I'm suffering from dns leaks to LU-CIX Management GIE on my luxembourg vps, even forcing quad9 dns in my resolv.conf and running unbound on the initiator/local side I still get these leaks
23:58 < ssm_> if I don't use iked there's no leaks
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