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01:19 < kremlin> god, whoever added the pkg_info feature that will locate uninvited files and clean them out of /usr/local rules
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02:06 < vortexx> anyone using init7 as an ISP here?
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02:41 < mybalzitch> I wish
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03:32 < kremlin> err
03:32 < kremlin> anyone have issues with php-fpm children just hanging, preventing httpd from ever serving a response?
03:32 < kremlin> phpinfo() will work, but once i require composer autoload.php, it just hangs
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12:30 < nij-> I'm installing openbsd again but this time the system can't find the file sets..
12:31 < nij-> I forgot what happened last time, but I was prompted to a list of urls, and mit's domain was one of them. After choosing that, I could installed the file sets.
12:31 < nij-> Not this time though.. what should I do?
12:31 < nij-> Location of sets? (disk http nfs or 'done') [http]  //// HTTP proxy URL? (e.g. 'http://proxy:8080', or 'none') [none] ///// (Unable to get list from openbsd.org, but that is OK)
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12:32 < nij-> If I choose "disk", it prompts me a default place to find. But there's none. I'm also incapable of finding where the file sets are.
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12:35 < Lucas6023> nij-: wild guess: your clock is off
12:35 -!- germ is now known as mipseb
12:36 < Lucas6023> assuming your internet works correctly, that is
12:36 < vortexx> nij-: if you're using install74.img it's probably sd1 for the sets (answer yes if ask if not mounted) or sd2 if you configured encrypted disk
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12:36 < vortexx> nij-: also if you want to add timing to booting, add date to /etc/rc in various places
12:37 < nij-> I'm using .. https://bpa.st/NEKA
12:37 < nij-> Sorry.. I'm very new to this thing and I'm not able to do all that yet..
12:38 < vortexx> why choose 7.3 over 7.4?
12:38 < nij-> I happened to get 7.3. Lemme try to get 7.4 now.
12:38 -!- x0r is now known as |luxo|
12:39 < nij-> Lemme actually use the miniroot version.
12:42 < nij-> Ok.. I'm back in the same step. This time I use miniroot 7.4. https://bpa.st/TP5A
12:43 < nij-> So I should sync the clock first? But.. how? I'm in an interactive env and can't get to the shell.
12:43 < IcePic> did you typ "hostname"? 
12:43 < IcePic> type*
12:43 < nij-> Yes, I typed "hostname" (the exact string of length 8)
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12:44 < renaud> type: "cdn.openbsd.org" instead
12:44 < IcePic> that is not a correct response
12:44 < IcePic> it is meant to be "a hostname" of a mirror that has the files you intend to install
12:44 < nij-> (Why isn't that url suggested in the option? Just curious.)
12:44 < renaud> it is suggested, unless there is another issue
12:44 < renaud> are you sure your DNS is working?
12:45 < IcePic> nij-: it would have been a hostname there if you could have contacted the internet
12:45 < IcePic> line 4 in your paste says you could not 
12:45 < nij-> Now with cdn.openbsd.org - https://bpa.st/J5NA
12:45 < nij-> Hmm
12:45 < renaud> you don't have full internet access. Try to check your DNS settings
12:46 < IcePic> using ! at a prompt to get a temporary shell and figuring out what is wrong with your internet might help
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12:46 < nij-> IcePic Good tip. Thanks!
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12:49 < renaud> I recently upgraded one of my DNS servers to 7.5 and had the same issue because resolv.conf was pointing at 127.0.0.1 and obviously unbound wasn't started :)
12:49 < nij-> I've actually haven't set that up before..
12:49 < nij-> Any guide would be great.
12:49 < nij-> I installed archlinux and debian before. The connection was automatic.
12:50 < renaud> you can use install74.img and then use cd0 as the location of sets, then you wouldn't need internet to install
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12:51 < sibiria> nij-: use the full install image instead for now, if you can't solve internet connectivity
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12:51 < sibiria> then you can, once booted, install eventual firmware files etc.
12:52 < sibiria> right, renaud already mentioned that as well
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12:52 < vortexx> renaud: have you started building your 7.5 packages yet?
12:52 < sibiria> on arm64 and qemu the image drive and main disk usually shows up as sdX
12:53 < nij-> I see. Lemme try that then.
12:53 < renaud> vortexx: I have built nginx 1.25.4, unifi and synapse-1.103.0. Which are the only non available packages for 7.5.
12:53 < renaud> https://arnor.org/pub/OpenBSD/7.5/packages/amd64/all/
12:54 < Lucas6023> wait nij-: if you're in the same screen as the paste you shared, use ! to go to the shell, run `date` to get the current date and validate it's actually synced
12:54 < renaud> my 7.5 amd64 build is there if you want: https://arnor.org/pub/OpenBSD/7.5/amd64/
12:54 < Lucas6023> that HTTPS error is most certainly the time
12:54 < nij-> I wonder though.. how in a virtual machine could you get connected to the internet?
12:54 < sibiria> nat/bridge to the host
12:55 < nij-> Lucas6023 Ok lemme try that again. I just killed the shell.
12:56 < sibiria> qemu has a few ways to configure that for you, incl. running its own local dhcp server. off the top of my head i don't recall the options for enabling it
12:56 < nij-> Hmm.. this time the same command doesn't even boot the installer.
12:56 < nij-> BdsDxe: failed to load Boot0001 "UEFI Misc Device" from VenHw(93E34C7E-B50E-11DF-9223-2443DFD72085,00): Not Found
12:56 < sibiria> that looks normalt to me
12:56 < nij-> I'm very confused. Maybe miniroot is damaged? Idk.
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12:57 < sibiria> no i just think you may have over-written the miniroot image, if you didn't start it as read-only
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12:57 < sibiria> the invocation i gave you yesterday will present you with two disks: sd0 (the boot image) and sd1 (your virtual disk image you install onto)
12:57 < sibiria> usually you'll in advance create the latter disk image using qemu-create
12:58 < renaud> the easiest is to use installXX images and get the sets from "cd0"
12:58 < nij-> I removed the second one as I didn't know what that's fore.
12:58 < sibiria> qemu will attach block device in the order you specify the "-drive" options
12:58 < sibiria> the second one is your actual "HDD"...
12:58 < Lucas6023> indeed, the package install steps comes after writing the partition table. If you're operating on a single drive, it makes a lot of sense for it to be unbootable right now
12:59 < sibiria> the first one is your "installation CD"
12:59 < nij-> sibiria The second one is this? -drive file=/path/to/openbsd_disk.img,format=qcow2 \
12:59 < sibiria> nij-: yes
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12:59 < sibiria> that's your main storage for the virtual machine ("virtual PC")
12:59 < nij-> Can I just provide a path that points to nothing? And qemu sould create that for me automatically?
12:59 < sibiria> i don't think qemu does that for you
12:59 < sibiria> use qemu-create to generate a blank virtual disk image
13:00 < nij-> Hmm.. there's no qemu-create in my PATH. 
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13:01 < nij-> Ah it should be: qemu-img create -f qcow2 openbsd-disk.img 10G
13:01 < sibiria> qemu-img?
13:02 < sibiria> yes that might be the name
13:02 < nij-> Yeah.. AI is actually useful.
13:02 < sibiria> i rarely use qemu, i keep forgetting the various executables
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13:03 < nij-> AI to the rescue..
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13:05 < nij-> sibiria Hmm what do you use for VM then?
13:05 < nij-> and OpenBSD 
13:05 < sibiria> virtualbox for everything
13:05 < nij-> #date - Fri Mar 22 13:05:32 GMT 2024
13:05 < nij-> It's synced!
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13:06 < nij-> Lucas6023 (in case you're still here.)
13:06 < nij-> sibiria Does the command you shared to me generated by virtualbox?
13:06 < nij-> Or is it used by virtualbox to actually start your openbsd VM?
13:07 < sibiria> no. virtualbox is something entirely else
13:07 < sibiria> the command line i gave you is my own. i do use qemu but very rarely
13:07 < nij-> I see. I was using "UTM" (a nice wrapper on macOS) yesterday, which works, but has lots of fluffs, and in the end the boot time is very long (~1 minute).
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13:08 < sibiria> yes i recall your conundrum
13:08 < nij-> Now in miniroot 7.4... date is synced, but `ping google.com` shows internet is off.
13:08 < vortexx> renaud: thanks but I built 7.5 last week and all my packages by Monday
13:08 < renaud> hehe
13:08 < sibiria> right. your network setup probably doens't bridge/nat between your VM and your host. again, i actually forgot how to correctly tell qemu to do that
13:08 < sibiria> UTM may be able to spit out the correct settings for that...
13:09 < nij-> Lemme try the thing UTM did.
13:10 < renaud> vortexx: I am going to wait for the release for arm64 as I don't plan to compile it myself
13:11 < nij-> Wow using UTM's command has another issue:
13:11 < nij-> ``qemu-system-aarch64: -netdev vmnet-shared,id=net0: cannot create vmnet interface: general failure (possibly not enough privileges)``
13:11 < sibiria> you need super user privs for that, because it wants to create a virtual network interface
13:12 < sibiria> there is probably some other network trick it can use to avoid taking that path
13:12 < nij-> Maybe I have granted UTM su privs before? I don't recall..
13:12 < sibiria> no but you can if you start it with "sudo ..." on your admin user
13:13 < nij-> I am doing that haha feels a bit shaky but lemme try this out first.
13:14 < nij-> Hmm.. it still doesn't ping google.com :(
13:14 < sibiria> you'll be done with this faster if you just boot the regular install image
13:15 < nij-> Ok (defeated). Lemme do that.
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13:16 < nij-> sibiria But even if I get the file sets from the img, I still have to worry how to connect to internet later..
13:16 < sibiria> of course
13:18 < renaud> but at least you have a full OS to diagnose
13:19 < renaud> the install shell is somewhat limited
13:19 < nij-> I see. :D
13:19 < nij-> Installing file sets. 
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13:29 < nij-> sibiria At least I found out something..
13:30 < nij-> With this minimal setup, openbsd still takes 57 seconds to boot.
13:30 < sibiria> might be because of qcow2 sparse format
13:30 < sibiria> it's compact but not very fast
13:30 < sibiria> other formats can preallocate the entire storage footprint at once and will have faster disk i/o
13:31 < sibiria> but 1 minute boot time still sounds a bit much on an M-series Mac
13:34 < nij-> Right.. UTM debian boots fast and it uses 
13:34 < nij-> -drive "if=none,media=disk,id=drive0,file=/path/to/debian.qcow2,discard=unmap,detect-zeroes=unmap"
13:35 < nij-> Hmmm I have to leave now. I will continue next time. Thanks for all your help!
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