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00:23 < finkfox> dlg: thanks. it worked.
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01:00 < SNAX_74> I noticed the Tor-Brower is lightning fast on OpenBSD but the regular Firefox-ESR is so slow I wonder what tweaks they performed on the Tor-Browser ?
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17:52 < cat5> hmm fun, I use Mousepad text editor sometimes and it's started randomly crashing X
17:53 < cat5> serves me right for cheating on VIM
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17:54 < thrig> which: vim: Command not found.
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17:56 < cat5> you survive on vi? i bow down
17:56 < cat5> don't say ed!
17:57 < avemestr> vi vi vi - the number of the beast!
17:57 < thrig> vim had sluggish startup and sluggish cursor motions, and I kept having to turn off crap they were always adding
17:57 < thrig> but my version of vi differs from the base one a little
17:58 < miah> you could cheat on emacs with mg ;)
17:58 < cat5> oh, I always use gtk no-x version
17:58 < cat5> terminal only
17:59 < thrig> I had a custom compile of vim that turned off a lot of stuff
17:59 < jmcunx> there is mg too :)
17:59 < thrig> (super necessary on redhat linux where the vendor changes are like unfixable)
18:01 < cat5> my vimrc is pretty short but has some neat stuff
18:05 < systemdsucks> https://tech.slashdot.org/story/24/03/25/1431204/microsoft-devs-30-year-old-temporary-code-still-lingers-in-windows-11
18:06 < tobiasu> try "advanced" network configuration and windows 3.0 wants your driver diskette
18:06 < cat5> that's awesome
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18:23 < dkeav> there's nothing quite so permanent as a temporary fix
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18:25 < cat5> dkeav: I was just reading something the other day which contained that quote
18:25 < dkeav> heh, i probably read the same thing, why it was fresh in the memory
18:25 < thrig> various unix have fixed 40+ year old bugs
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18:36 < miah> infinite backwards compatibility is a blessing, and a curse. i'd rather see things get fixed, and improved.
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18:39 < dkeav> you'll get a bunch of UI changes that nobody wanted or asked for and you'll like it
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18:44 < jfsimon> Hi, do you know how to record audio output to file ie aucat from sndio output channel, or something similar ?
18:44 < jfsimon> Thanks
18:46 < cat5> jfsimon: you mean like aucat -f snd/1 -o "$HOME/output.wav"?
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18:47 < jfsimon> ok thanks
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18:48 < cat5> see AUCAT(1)
18:50 < jfsimon> right i look for the correct channel, snd/0 is the mike, and /1 doesn't exist on this system
18:51 < cat5> if you're trying to record from a s/mike/mic make sure you've allowed it to record: sysctl kern.audio.record=1
18:52 < op2> jfsimon: do you want to record the audio output?  see the monitor mode in the FAQ
18:52 < jfsimon> no i want the speaker outputs in fact
18:53 < jfsimon> Thanks i think the FAQ covers it.
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18:54 < jfsimon> Perfect thank you. That's over here and worked.
18:54 < jfsimon> https://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq13.html#recordmon
18:56 < op2> yay :)
18:57 < jfsimon> Thanks both
18:57 < jfsimon> doing a capture of audio for multimedia works, needed to grab good quality audio.
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19:57 < GnarledHorn> Someone linked to a resource describing how ktrace has a flag to detect memory leaks. Does that sound familiar?
19:57 < cat5> Now I'm puzzled. I thought "mousepad" text editor was the culprit. I installed "gedit" and it crashes my x session even more frequently. This is only happening with graphical text editors. Went looking arounds logs, but I'm not sure I see anything meaningful. No recent system changes to speak of. What else to check? here's some logs... https://termbin.com/935d
19:58 < GnarledHorn> I checked the man page without finding the option. 
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19:59 < uwharrie> GnarledHorn: https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-tech&m=169952929412596&w=2 ?
19:59 < jmcunx> GnarledHorn: here it is https://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article;sid=20230417074903
20:00 < GnarledHorn> thank you both!
20:01 < uwharrie> or see malloc(3)
20:03 < thrig> are you full screening the editor
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20:04 < Bradipo> cat5: Have you tried xedit?
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20:26 < miah> do you use a non-standard font?
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20:36 < finkfox> when running "doas -u user" ... what value will the umask be set for user? does it source users "~/.profile"?
20:37 < thrig> what happened after you changed the umask in ~/.profile ?
20:38 < cat5> Bradipo: will give it a shot. miah hmm I believe I did uncheck the box for "use system monospace font" and chose monospace bold.
20:38 < cat5> will play around with that too
20:39 < finkfox> thrig: it doesn't seem to be respected. "man doas" states "the umask(2) are set to values appropriate for target user". how is this achieved?
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20:43 < uwharrie> ~/.profile is sourced by login shells and doas isn't going to invoke a login shell unless explicitly told to do so
20:44 < uwharrie> finkfox: see /etc/login.conf
20:46 < finkfox> so how can I set umask for user when using doas? do you imply I should create a dedicated login group?
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20:46 < finkfox> (when using "doas -u user ...")
20:47 < uwharrie> you can do that, or doas -u user sh -c 'umask...;command'
20:47 < finkfox> the alternative would be to do a full login first and then execute the command. e.g. "doas su -l user; run-my-command"
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20:48 < finkfox> uwharrie: ok will try that.
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20:50 < finkfox> uwharrie: ok it works. thank you.
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21:04 < sibiria> "doas su -l" ;_;
21:04 < sibiria> please, join the wheelies instead
21:05 < uwharrie> it's `sudo su` for a new generation...
21:06 < sibiria> stop abusing doas. don't repeat the mistakes of sudo. go wheel, go su
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21:32 < ludovicus> doas -s
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21:43 < ssm_> I wouldn't be against hardcoding doas to not allow auth to root, unless you are already root
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22:35 < finkfox> aucat -i audio.wav # as some other user does not work. what am I missing?
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22:39 < uwharrie> does the other user have access to sndiod?
22:40 < finkfox> uwharrie: how do I check that?
22:44 < finkfox> ah ... ~/.sndio/cookie
22:44 < zelest> I don't know how it works exactly, but there should be a ~/.sndio/cookie
22:44 < zelest> No idea how it gets set or how to update it though
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22:46 < uwharrie> ah, is that it? was looking for the location of the control socket
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22:49 < finkfox> man 7 sndio ... AUTHENTICATION
22:49 < finkfox> first come first served?
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22:56 < zelest> again, I don't know how it works exactly, but a quick glance at /usr/src/lib/libsndio/aucat.c tells me it generate it automagically.. :o
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23:59 < pardis> indeed, if you want to share sndiod between users you must copy the cookie to the other user's homedir
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23:59 < pardis> otherwise another user on the same computer could record your voice calls, for example
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