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03:18 < lockywolf> How do I turn on line wrapping in mg?
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09:19 < ember2216> hey, I am wondering if intel arc GPUs work
09:19 < ember2216> not looking to game or anything just basic functionality
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09:22 < ssm_> you're not looking to game? but that's openbsd's primary purpose!
09:25 < ember2216> as fun as vi is it doesn't really need the cycles
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09:27 < IcePic> ssm_: /usr/games proves it!
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11:42 < penne> talking abt games. where's the original rogue?
11:43 < penne> i looked around and i think it got deleted at an earlier release. so sad
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12:29 < oldlaptop> penne: quite a while ago: https://cvsweb.openbsd.org/src/games/rogue/
12:30 < oldlaptop> https://cvsweb.openbsd.org/src/games/hack/ however is there
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14:14 < penne> oldlaptop: oh wow are they the same ?
14:14 < penne> oh i checked the man page. looks like a rogue fork/inpired clone
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14:21 < thrig> https://thrig.me/src/rogue36.git is pretty original, except where it is not
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14:24 < penne> oh alr i'll check it out thx
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14:48 < bountyht> For the record, there are actual reconstructions for the original Unix Rogue
14:48 < bountyht> The one in Games Rogue is actually Rogue Clone III I think
14:48 < bountyht> You may check rlgallery for releases rebuilt from the Rogue restoration project that run the original releases
14:49 < bountyht> Also I have my own personal branch with OpenBSD tweaks (since I used to run a gmae server for people to play online)
14:50 < bountyht> games/rogue*
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14:55 < oldlaptop> penne: rogue inspired hack inspired nethack, more or less
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14:56 < thrig> there's also the Moria/Angband branch
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15:08 < cat5> if I could play project D2 on my openbsd machine, i'd be positively chuffed
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16:02 < avemestr> tumfatig had some not-so-kind words about the Kensington Slimblade Pro trackball recently (https://www.tumfatig.net/2024/using-the-kensington-slimblade-pro-trackball-with-openbsd/). In case anyone cares, I'll just counter with the fact that the "Pro" version is very similar to the original, so if one liked that the new one is fine too.
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16:03 < avemestr> Also, it just works with OpenBSD for left, right and "middle" clicks. There's a fourth button that works fine as well.
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16:06 < avemestr> Advanced configuration is only available on Windows. Kensington seems to think, that configuring peripherals require a web server running with Administrator priviledges, so good riddance: https://robertheaton.com/another-rce-in-kensingtonworks/
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16:16 < Bradipo> Kensington produces mouse peripherals with web servers?
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16:19 < pardis> it's not a real mouse peripheral if it doesn't come with Kubernetes autoscaling enabled
16:20 < thrig> more like they hired a webdev to do the interface, and the webdev webbed
16:20 < avemestr> The software required for "advanced configuration" is KensingtonWorks. Read the last link I sent. Apparently they wanted to create the program using Electron but since they want to do some actual changes they decided to spin up a web server on the users computer to receive requests...
16:20 < RobbieAB> I know I just got a bluetooth mouse for my laptop... But who actually wants "advanced configuration" that requires a webserver?
16:21 < avemestr> RobbieAB: Exactly. As I said: It Just Works on OpenBSD. No local web server required for configuration :)
16:21 < thrig> https://den.dev/blog/user-hostile-software/
16:21  * oldlaptop has trouble thinking of what you'd want to twiddle on the device/firmware side that couldn't happen on the host side
16:21 < RobbieAB> bt-hid in Linux "just works" (If I ever revisit putting openbsd on that laptop, I may need to figure out a different alternative to the mouse.
16:21 < Bradipo> Does the robert heaton website have the javascript exploit running on it?
16:21 < Bradipo> My browser sure was sluggish while trying to read that site.
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16:22 < thrig> w3m loaded it fine. maybe don't use a crap browser?
16:22 < Bradipo> Yes, I suppose I need to get into that habit!
16:23 < oldlaptop> correctly-configured firefox works too (which mostly means noscript)
16:23 < thrig> they could enchunk things with CSS or webfonts, though w3m might also have to waste time downloading those
16:24 < oldlaptop> although I also lost patience some time ago and (firefox lets you do this sort of thing) banned fonts other than dejavu serif and dejavu sans mono, and colors other than black-on-#fef1e1
16:24 < oldlaptop> sometimes that breaks something, but less often than w3m would
16:25 < Bradipo> What security benefit is there to banning fonts?
16:27 < oldlaptop> Font parsers are complicated (IIRC hinting programs are Turing-complete, or at least LBA-complete) and probably still not fuzzed all the way
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16:27 < oldlaptop> but banning sans serif fonts (that aren't dejavu sans mono, monospace is different) is its own reward
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16:32 < Bradipo> I see, so just to avoid bugs in script parsing code.
16:32 < Bradipo> s/script/font/
16:32 < Bradipo> I see I'm not paranoid enough yet...
16:33 < Bradipo> But I certainly can see the vector.
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16:38 < sibiria> "next i'm gonna ban painters from using colors and artistic styles i don't like"
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17:08 < oldlaptop> more "I'm only going to hang paintings I like on my wall"
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18:07 < Posterdati> hi
18:08 < Posterdati> is anyone insterested/involved in running openbsd on stm32mp157 (2 cortex a7 + 1 cortex m4) mcu?
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18:15 < Posterdati> is Crystal Kolipe on irc too?
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20:12 < cross> OA
20:12 < Posterdati> 1B
20:12 < cross> (Sorry; arrow-key gone bad.)
20:13 < thrig> broken arrow!
20:13 < Posterdati> like on commodore 64
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20:14 < Posterdati> cross: I only use mechanical keyboards!
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20:14 < Bradipo> Did the Commodore 64 have a mechanical keyboard?
20:15 < Posterdati> no
20:15 < Posterdati> membrane
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20:28 < Posterdati> Bradipo: I think mitsumi build them for commodore
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20:53 < amnesiac> Hi
20:53 < amnesiac> Why sndiod could provide only mono signal ?
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20:53 < amnesiac> previously was stereo. Have no idea that changed this.
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