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01:39 < cat5> RobbieAB: I've heard people mention that you can use a usb dongle that plugs into a usb dongle and it works on openbsd :D
01:40 < cat5> a bluetooth dongle into a usb dongle that plugs into a usb port, i mean... 
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01:57 < pardis> no, a "bluetooth dongle" will not work on OpenBSD because there is no bluetooth implementation at all
01:58 < pardis> there are dongles that do the bluetooth themselves, and expose some other (non-bluetooth) type of device to the OS, and those can work
01:58 < pardis> but they will not let you use just any bluetooth device
01:58 < pardis> the only ones I'm aware of working expose themselves as USB audio devices, which are obviously limited to pairing with bluetooth audio devices
02:01 < jmcunx> for just BT audio, this works for me.  But as pardis said it only works with audio: https://sg.creative.com/p/speakers/creative-bluetooth-audio-bt-w2-usb-transceiver
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02:02 < pardis> the newer BT-W3 also works well
02:02 < pardis> but the context of the discussion was about a bluetooth mouse
02:02 < jmcunx> I missed that :)
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02:38 < mischief> i wonder if you could have a userland only bluetooth stack with something like bluez
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03:25 < cat5> can't wait to have native (on brain) bluetooth capability through neuralink thank you based elon
03:26 < thrig> ... spam playing in your eyes 24x7 ...
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03:35 < vortexx> openbsd updates via X in your eyes 24/7
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05:17 < ponycat> anybody got openbsd working on the rpi5?
05:18 < caze> hi pony
05:18 < ponycat> oh hi
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05:33 < vortexx> ponycat: it's not listed as supported on https://www.openbsd.org/arm64.html
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05:43 < ponycat> yeah :C
05:47 < ponycat> perhaps the rockpro64 maybe!
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08:28 < Lucas6023> ponycat: there have been very recent commits in -current for improving the support. Recent as in the last 3 days.
08:28 < ponycat> nice
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13:51 < miah> i wish it still worked on my rpi1 :(
13:52 < pardis> it never worked on the rpi1 to begin with
13:52 < miah> ah, well.. thankfully netbsd still supports it
13:53 < miah> (for the moment)
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15:57 < dfdx> Hi #openbsd, is there any way to specifically identify and block all git traffic using pf (or some other way)? (That is, git, not github. Well, that too, but i'm more focused on git over https in general.) I think the answer is "no" but I just wanted to double check. Thanks.
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16:00 < remiliascarlet> Git goes over either port 443 (HTTPS) or 22 (SSH), so I think you can't. Not sure why you would want to do that anyway.
16:02 < dfdx> we want to avoid employees from uploading/syncing data outside of the work environment. I guess that also means there is no way to identify and block all webdav traffic as well... 
16:02 < thrig> company issued laptops with no usb ports would be a small start
16:04 < Bradipo> dfdx: To avoid them, you just have to stay out of their way. ;-)
16:04 < dfdx> thrig: got it, so the solution has to be something like that. understood. just wanted to make sure i wasn't overlooking something in pf, other firewalls, or network monitoring tools. thanks.
16:05 < thrig> network monitoring might tell you that the barn doors were blown off
16:05 < Bradipo> To be absolutely certain, don't let them on any networks.
16:06 < Bradipo> Furthermore, don't let them have access to view data outside of controlled environments.  If you let them take a laptop home, then you cannot prevent them from doing sneakernet things.
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16:10 < phy1729> dfdx: you'd need to MITM encrypted traffix and do layer 7 inspection. pf doesn't do that.
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16:19 < polishdub> dfdx: What phy1729 said. This is layer 7 inspection that you'd need to pull this off
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16:20 < thrig> and remember to check for data being encoded as tabs and spaces in the whitespace of that layer 7 stuff
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16:34 < Bradipo> thrig: Hahaha, steganography for the win!
16:35 < thrig> also, are you allowing DNS queries out? (oops?)
16:36 < Bradipo> DNS would certainly allow the transfer of data, but it wouldn't be private unless using DNSCurve.
16:37 < lts> DoT/DoH
16:38 < Bradipo> Presumably HTTPS is MITM though.
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16:47 < miah> send out data through icmp =)
16:48 < miah> figuring out ways to subvert overactive management is why i tend to only work at companies that do open source
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19:28 < markand> o/
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19:29 < markand> for some reasons I can no longer login in GDM on my OpenBSD 7.4, typing my password and I get GDM throwing a spinner forever
19:30 < markand> aside a pkg_add -u yesterday, this was working fine for months
19:35 < markand> what the flipping duck... looks like plugging my external NVMe USB enclosures causes this Oo
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19:46 < amnesiac> markand, hotplugd enabled ?
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20:11 < markand> no
20:11 < markand> but I think OpenBSD or on my laptop doesn't like SSD/NVMe enclosures through USB 
20:11 < markand> newfs of one ends in a input/output error, having it plugged during boot freezes the kernel too
20:14 < thrig> is there some wacky BIOS option enabled that presents them as something problematic?
20:15 < markand> I'll check 
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20:15 < sibiria> a proper USB-NVMe bridge should just present it as mass storage
20:16 < markand> it does, but a disklabel write ends in input/output error too
20:17 < markand> even though dmesg and disklabel shows the device correctly and its *current* partition table too
20:17 < sibiria> there's after all no "NVMe" class for USB devices
20:17 < markand> it just about writing that causes issues
20:17 < markand> I also have the same issue with a USB -> SATA adapter, exactly the same result, the SSD connected is a 2.5" crucial
20:17 < markand> so I start to wonder if there is something wrong with the USB on the thinkpad directly
20:18 < sibiria> i think it's the thinkpad
20:18 < markand> :P
20:18 < sibiria> openbsd doesn't know (or behave different) whether there's an NVMe or SATA device on the business end of that
20:18 < sibiria> USB3?
20:19 < markand> good question, the thinkpad has all the same USB ports colors, its from 2016 so I'd be surprised that it's not USB3
20:19 < sibiria> USB3 controllers have a fanatic love for large caches and saying "i'm done" long before the flushing of data is complete
20:19 < markand> it's x1 carbon 4th FYI
20:20 < markand> all 3 ports are branded SS-> (arrow being the USB logo)
20:26 < sibiria> so USB3
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20:29 < amnesiac> have no problem with nvme in enclosure connected via usb to thinkcentre 
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20:29 < amnesiac> also to usb3
20:29 < amnesiac> agestar enclosure
20:29 < markand> I'll check in the bios if there are fancy compat options
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20:30 < markand> sd2 at scsibus4 targ 1 lun 0: <ElecGear, NV-i9, 0205> serial.152d058300A2019E0524
20:30 < markand> sd2: 244198MB, 512 bytes/sector, 500118192 sectors
20:30 < markand> this was the first one
20:30 < amnesiac> also have sata to usb bridge with raid 0 /1 capability for 2.5 ''
20:30 < sibiria> if that's over USB3 it's some pass-through mechanism. not "real" USB mass storage
20:30 < amnesiac> and sometime it hangs, if use softraid0 on it
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20:31 < sibiria> unless there's something more to the dmesg?
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20:31 < markand> umass0 at uhub0 port 18 configuration 1 interface 0 "ElecGear External" rev 3.20/2.05 addr 4
20:31 < markand> umass0: using SCSI over Bulk-Only
20:31 < markand> only this, and the detached later on
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20:32 < amnesiac> it works great for reading, and sometimes says i/o error block on writing
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20:45 < amnesiac> i'm curious why sndiod provide only mono signal to 3.5 jack 
20:45 < amnesiac> previously it was stereo
20:45 < amnesiac> 7.4 -> 7.5 and it got mono
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20:52 < cat5> dang I hope not, I have a kick-ass set of cheap speakers on my desk that sound pretty gr8 for the $27 i paid
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20:59 < quinq> They'll still sound great
20:59 < quinq> Just on mono
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22:42 < rs> is there a way to disable a touchscreen? wsconstl lists a variable mouse3 but there isn't a disable option for it. if i set mouse3.rawmode=0 default at 1 it cripples it but doesn't completely disable it. also to note setting mouse3.rawmode=0 in /etc/wsconsctl.conf is ignored for some reason
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