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10:20 < jnth> hi, when i do CTRL+A to select a line of text, it will not work unless i set on CAPSLOCK. what do i have to change in the keyboard setting to fix it?
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10:57 < IcePic> jnth: for many unix environments, ctrl-a means "go to start of line"
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11:11 < jnth> oh, alright
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16:14 < adig> What exactly is /etc/firmware/vmm-bios and how do I make one? I see vmm-bios-license says "vmm-bios includes SeaBIOS"... How do I make one from the newest version of Seabios?
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16:14 < adig> I'm playing around, poped in a Plan 9 iso, and won't boot! :D
16:14 < adig> I'm thinking it's the bios?
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16:16 < phy1729> ports/sysutils/firmware/vmm I think
16:17 < adig> Cool!
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16:53 < adig> Ok, latest vmm-bios doesn't work either.
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17:23 < sibiria> the vmm isn't super compatible
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17:41 < adig> sibiria: Yeah, according to the docs it only supports OpenBSD and Linux, but I was thinking I could hack it.
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17:43 < adig> One think it does, it fails to initialize the keyboard.
17:43 < adig> thing*
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17:44 < adig> Fails in the bootloader.
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17:48 < pardis> I'm not sure installing a different version of something someone else developed qualifies as "hacking"
17:50 < pardis> also, there is no keyboard in vmd
17:50 < pardis> so it's unsurprising that none would be initialised
17:51 < sibiria> the vmm firmware is a bit of a special case, but if you haven't rebooted since installing it then try doing that
17:51 < sibiria> firmware for regular drivers/hardware is only loaded during boot
17:51 < pardis> a reboot shouldn't be needed here, and in any case won't give you a keyboard
17:52 < pardis> no amount of firmware tinkering will create virtual hardware that the VM doesn't provide
17:52 < sibiria> i think it's a case of misunderstanding the serial console's use
17:52 < sibiria> not some virtual keyboard issue
17:52 < pardis> that's pure speculation
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17:53 < adig> I'm talking about the serial console.
17:53 < adig> I'm running with -c.
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18:00 < adig> I didn't install the firmware I did vmctl start -c -b /usr/local/ports/pobj/vmm-firmware-1.16.3/vmm-bios
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18:15 < jambove_> sysctl hw.disknames lists a sd0, but disklabel sd0 returns that that is no such file in /dev/ what gives?
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18:25 < metavoid> jambove_: disklabel /dev/sd0c
18:25 < sibiria> jambove_: that the device isn't configured, or that you don't have permissions?
18:27 < ssm_> jambove_: is this on the ramdisk? you may need to MAKEDEV sd0 first
18:31 < jambove_> the OpenBSD system in question is a VM inside Proxmox, and has been running issue free for over a year I believe
18:32 < jambove_> the drive or partition seems to be corrupted so I want to fsck it, but I have to mount it after cd boot first
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18:58 < ssm_> my guess is that you haven't run MAKEDEV(8)
18:58 < ssm_> by "cd boot" you mean bsd.rd?
18:58 < ssm_> or the installer image
19:01 < ssm_> doesn't run MAKEDEV on boot, so you have to manually invoke it if you want to use stuff like disklabel (otherwise device files like /dev/sd** don't exist)
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19:17 < jambove_> Okay, I managed to MAKEDEV and fsck the partitions, beside b (swap) and c, which seems to be "unused". I suspect this is why it wont boot
19:18 < sibiria> you can't fsck b, and c is a pseudo partition representing the entire device
19:19 < sibiria> it needs the label holding / to be in order to boot
19:19 < sibiria> usually that's label 'a'
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19:30 < jambove_> ah I see. looking around I could find that my i partition /usr/src/ is empty for some reason
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19:38 < Sober> I accidentally ran 'sysupgrade' without removing the X* sets beforehand. If I exclude the X* sets for the next stable release upgrade, might I potentially fuck up the upgrade? Or would it just remove X and carry on?
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19:41 < phy1729> Just don't bother removing them anymore?
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19:42 < Den4ikRus> I am trying to get cwm working with mate
19:42 < Den4ikRus> but can't figure out how to make it ignore mate panels
19:43 < Sober> phy1729: I know it's kind of frown upon to remove them but I need whatever space I can squeeze out on my embedded board
19:44 < Bradipo> Is Mate a heavy WM?
19:44 < phy1729> Ah, I guess 300M can matter there. An upgrade won't remve them no
19:44 < Bradipo> I'm looking for something as light as xfce (because xfce seems to have file descriptor leaks in 7.4).
19:44 < Sober> Cool, cool
19:45 < Den4ikRus> mate is a light de
19:45 < sibiria> Bradipo: not really, it's pretty light
19:45 < Sober> Bradipo: Openbox?
19:45 < Bradipo> I've used fluxbox and openbox before.
19:45 < Den4ikRus> their wm marco isn't that good unfortunately
19:46 < Den4ikRus> so I wanted to swap it for cwm
19:46 < Den4ikRus> and it does work
19:46 < Bradipo> So you're trying to run Mate with cwm?
19:46 < Den4ikRus> but when I cycle through windows it considers top and down panels as window
19:46 < Bradipo> That's interesting... I wonder, could I run Mate with fvwm?
19:46 < Den4ikRus> I can drag them and stuff
19:46 < Den4ikRus> I want to ignore them
19:46 < Bradipo> What is "marco"?
19:46 < Den4ikRus> Bradipo: you can use any wm with mate
19:46 < Den4ikRus> Bradipo: MATE's wm
19:47 < Bradipo> Oh.
19:48 < Bradipo> After upgrading to 7.5 if xfce still has file descriptor leakage, I'll throw on mate as an alternative.
19:49 < Sober> Den4ikRus: Are the panels in MATE some sort of program?
19:49 < Sober> e.g. polybar, etc?
19:49 < Den4ikRus> yes the program is mate-panel
19:49 < Sober> Ahh, just add an 'ignore mate-panel' to your .cwmrc
19:49 < Den4ikRus> but `ignore mate-panel` does not have any effect
19:50 < Sober> aha
19:50 < Sober> Did you actually refresh cwm?
19:50 < Den4ikRus> wdym 'refresh'?
19:50 < Bradipo> Maybe use xwininfo to identify the panel for the name?
19:51 < Sober> I don't remember the default hotkeys because I have the mapped to something else
19:51 < Sober> s/the/them
19:51 < Bradipo> "cwm rereads its configuration file when it receives a hangup signal, SIGHUP,"
19:52 < Bradipo> "This is equivalent to the restart function."
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19:52 < Den4ikRus> Bradipo: https://bpa.st/XYKA
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19:53 < Bradipo> Interesting, "Top Panel" ?
19:53 < Den4ikRus> hm let me try that
19:53 < Den4ikRus> `ignore "Top Panel"` I guess then
19:53 < Bradipo> Not sure, I don't use cwm, so I'm guessing. :-)
19:54 < Bradipo> cwmrc(5) doesn't clarify what "windowname" is.
19:54 < Den4ikRus> Yes
19:54 < Den4ikRus> How would I send SIGHUP to cwm?
19:55 < Bradipo> kill -HUP $(pgrep cwm) # might do it
19:55 < Sober> Or try Ctrl+Alt+Shift+r
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19:56 < Den4ikRus> Sober: I don't have a bind for refresh
19:56 < Den4ikRus> I unbinded all
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19:56 < Den4ikRus> Bradipo: worked thx
19:56 < Bradipo> w00t!
19:56 < Den4ikRus> still can drag the panels tho
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21:31 < adig> sibiria: Ok, understood the keyboard thing! Thanks! :D
21:32 < adig> I was comparing it to qemu, was wondering why qemu works and vmd doesn't. Qemu emulates a keyboard, vmd doesn't.  I see...
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23:57 < cat5> Bradipo: what does file descriptor leakage entail for an xfce user? pretend i'm dumb (you don't have to pretend)
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23:58 < thrig> if you run out of fd, you can't open or write files, which may be important for various tools
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