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00:45 < PyR3X> so when I boot to bsd.rd to do an upgrade of my -current system (several snapshots behind) to 7.5 release it can't find the installation sets because the /etc/resolv.conf has 127.0.0.1 set do I really need to use 'ed' to change this file so it can resolve the mirror?
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01:11 < cjs> PyR3X : Eh? You probably need to direct the sysupgrade command from snapshots to the release again, i.e. 'sysupgrade -r'
01:12 < PyR3X> I changed it on my base system before booting to bsd.rd to fix it and then switched it back
01:13 < cjs> Did you try 'sysupgrade -r'? Not clear.
01:14 < uwharrie> cjs: they're on a snapshots from after the release was tagged and trying to go back to a release
01:15 < cjs> Oh. No, OpenBSD does not support downgrades.
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01:16 < thrig> reinstall
01:16 < cjs> But if the person is really just on a snapshot from before the release, it should just be 'sysupgrade -r'
01:16 < cjs> But if the person is trying to downgrade, do as thrig says -- reinstall
01:17 < uwharrie> they're in that period of time where the snapshot is starting to act like it's on the release
01:17 < thrig> well maybe run backups, or such
01:17 < thrig> speaking of which, time for a post-update backup run
01:17 < cjs> There you go, thrig 
01:23 < cjs> I was a -current man for a time, but I am not savvy enough to fix major breakages. -stable is my home. Everything works. Happy Puffy.
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01:32 < a1fa> yello!
01:32 < a1fa> any KDE Plasma users running 7.5?
01:34 < SOLARIS_s> lol
01:35 < a1fa> what's the lols for?
01:35 < SOLARIS_s> don't pull from the tree atm i just got core dumps off tty0
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01:36 < SOLARIS_s> a1fa not you topic was early about running snapshots
01:36 < a1fa> thanks
01:36 < SOLARIS_s> no worries
01:41 < a1fa> plasma is a bit unstable on 7.5
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01:46 < SOLARIS_s> how do you like it?
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01:46 < a1fa> plasma (kde neon) is my daily driver
01:47 < a1fa> i use i3wm with my openbsd install
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01:51 < vortexx> a1fa: it does appear in this channel you may be alone running plasma...
01:51 < vortexx> let me check the logs
01:51 < a1fa> ;)
01:52 < vortexx> ssm_: have you given plasma another go? Since you're the other user (at least who's mentioned plasma in the last month)
02:17 < ssm_> vortexx: nope, though my brother uses plasma
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02:18 < ssm_> mostly just messing with it out of curiosity
02:18 < ssm_> I'm a cwm user
02:18 < a1fa> aye!
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02:36 < SOLARIS_s> there was some updates no
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03:27 < williewillus> so, I played fast and loose and finally got bitten -- upgrade to 7.5 failed partially due to full /usr and aborted. I'm now sitting in the install CD shell, hoping to recover some config files and then just blow everything away and reinstall. But I don't seem to be able to see any of my disks? sysctl hw.disknames shows cd0, sd0, sd1, and rd0, but
03:27 < williewillus> none of those show valid layouts in fdisk so I don't know how to remount my / to get things off. Am I hosed? I feel like I should be able to remount the old filesystem but I don't know how. Any help would be appreciated, thanks
03:29 < williewillus> oh, looks like the old install (somehow) still boots. I'll just get the files i need off then reinstall
03:29 < SOLARIS_s> yup
03:30 < SOLARIS_s> do a /obsd 
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03:49 < ssm_> do the mario
04:00 < SOLARIS_s>  i just wonder why that xy went into the tree he is a obsd developer but wtf
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09:30 < MiniontobyPI> Lucas6023: Please help me. I really need this to work! It still doesn't work rn
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10:11 < Lucas6023> sorry, I'm out of ideas
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13:17 < vortexx> does anyone know how openbsd.amsterdam handle upgrading the hypervisor OS hosting the client VMs? Do they notify by email customers that they're about to be rebooted?
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13:18 < avemestr> Yes.
13:20 < vortexx> thanks
13:20 < avemestr> "Hi X. You have vmYY running on serverZ.openbsd.amsterdam. We want to inform you... upgrade to 7.z. This will happen on x UTC. We expect the whole process to take about an hour."
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13:30 < MiniontobyPI> Hmmmmm, :(
13:32 < MiniontobyPI> So yeah for anyone else who knows about openiked: the problem is that I do not get an static ip when I request one when connecting to a responder. When I set on responder a static ip in the "config address " then the networking/traffic doesn't work, not to the local and peer ip's and not to the assigned ip...
13:33 < vortexx> looks like the ports tree for 7.5 has been unlocked, quite a few updates today, including thunderbird, wireshark, openvpn and php
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13:44 < remiliascarlet> While watching a video midway, my audio stopped working. I tried to do `doas rcctl restart sndiod` already, but it didn't fix the problem. Any suggestions?
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13:46 < remiliascarlet> I get 3 messages looped several times when I try to play an audio file through MPV:
13:46 < remiliascarlet> Audio device underrun detected.
13:46 < remiliascarlet> [ao/sndio] audio_write: unexpected partial write: required: 27552, written: 0.
13:46 < remiliascarlet> [ao/sndio] Error writing audio to device.
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14:41 < a1fa> o/
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15:13 < jmcunx> remiliascarlet: taking a wild guess.  Maybe reset by removing file ~/.sndio/cookie - see man sndio
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15:14 < remiliascarlet> jmcunx: I'll give this a try next time it crashes.
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15:27 < MiniontobyPI> Can someone help me?
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15:28 < MiniontobyPI> with openiked?
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15:32 < sibiria> maybe try the openbsd reddit
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15:38 < vortexx> or misc@openbsd mailing list
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15:39 < vortexx> do check the archive over at https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&r=1&w=2
15:40 < MiniontobyPI> Oke....
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15:46 < MiniontobyPI> Oh wait, I think I got something
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15:48 < MiniontobyPI> When I add /128 to the static ip in the responder "config address " then it does assign it and it does seem to work
15:53 < MiniontobyPI> Of course, this will give me the possibilty to remotely edit the ip address, which is great. But it will make the responder config really big...
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16:15 < ssm_> after disabling kwin compositing in kde and replacing it with picom, I no longer get hangs after running certain applications
16:15 < ssm_> now kde just werks
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16:51 < a1fa> o/ hi pals
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16:55 < a1fa> i am really enjoying the polybar, but out of the box experience does not jibe well with openbsd
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17:04 < avemestr> MiniontobyPI: https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&w=2&r=1&s=openiked&q=b
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17:19 < PyR3X> if I want to prioritize traffic to/from a single ip address is it enough to have 'match to <ip> set prio 7' and 'match from <ip> set prio 7' 
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17:19 < superpou> trying to install openbsd on my laptop, but it seems like the installer doesn't see my sata drive at all. can someone help me out with this? i'm new to openbsd
17:22 < metavoid> ssm_: well, you didn't read the readme first time ?:P
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17:30 < superpou> well, the installer just says "Avaible disks are: none" and i wasn't able to find anything about it
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17:30 < a1fa> superpou: is your laptop disk in raid mode?
17:30 < a1fa> you need to go to bios and disable raid mode
17:30 < a1fa> be mindful it will kill your other os if you are trying to run both
17:31 < superpou> it's in ahci mode. my laptop is librebooted if that helps.
17:31 < sibiria> do you have secure boot enabled?
17:31 < sibiria> in the UEFI/BIO
17:31 < sibiria> S
17:31 < superpou> no, libreboot doesn't even have that as far as i know
17:31 < sibiria> and/or CSM? if so, disable both and see what happens
17:32 < apotheon> Is libreboot compatible with the OpenBSD installer?
17:32 < apotheon> (or vice versa)
17:32 < superpou> i'm kind of already in bios mode, libreboot doesn't support uefi
17:32 < superpou> yes, it is compatible
17:32 < apotheon> good to know
17:32 < superpou> at least, it should be, i know that a lot of people that use libreboot also use openbsd with it
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17:33 < apotheon> I've never used libreboot, but now I'm thinking about it.
17:34 < Foxy_> superpou: what is your Laptop with libreboot and OpenBSD ?
17:35 < superpou> my laptop is a dell latitude e5420, i don't have openbsd installed yet, i would like to dual boot it with my current ubuntu install, i already made space
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17:37 < Foxy_> superpou: good to know, but I prefer Thinkpad laptops with OpenBSD
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17:37 < ssm_> metavoid: skimmed it, though I missed the part that said kwin didn't work properly
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17:38 < apotheon> My last two ThinkPads have been definite downward trends in quality.  It hurts to think about.
17:39 < superpou> yeah i just use this dell because it's built pretty well, i spilled water on it like 3 times already and there seem to be no signs of any corrosion on the inside
17:42 < sibiria> i once poured a mug of tea through my 2009 macbook pro, while it was powered on
17:42 < sibiria> rugged tank survived it just fine
17:43 < sibiria> power supply flatlined, though
17:43 < superpou> anyways, any idea why the sata drive in the laptop isn't showing up? if i search for ahci in dmesg i can see "ahci0 at pci0 dev 31 function 2 "Intel 6 Series AHCI" rev 0x05: msi, unable to reset controller"
17:44 < sibiria> entire mug went over and through keyboard and logic board, and pooled up in the bottom of the case. not a single drop on the table. a feat of accuracy if i may say so myself
17:44 < thrig> check bios to see if raid or something wacky is enabled?
17:45 < superpou> i checked before, libreboot doesn't have many options, but ahci is enabled by default 
17:46 < sibiria> ignore libreboot for a moment and go into the *computer's* BIOS/EFI
17:46 < sibiria> is it in CSM mode or not? is secure boot enabled?
17:46 < sibiria> oh never mind, you actually replaced the stock firmware
17:47 < superpou> yeah, i thought you knew that…
17:47 < sibiria> i misread you as running u-boot as bootloader
17:48 < sibiria> doesn't openbsd enumerate the storage at all right around the place where it shows "ahciN"?
17:48 < sibiria> no mention at all about sd0, sd1? wd0? wd1?
17:48 < sibiria> are you booting the miniroot or the full install image?
17:48  * sonya is thankful for an advise to look at odroid (h3), but .. just took recently no-name chineese laptop with Alder Lake N95 and all works, except RTL8821CE (no wifi and no bluetooth).. the rest is perfect (imho).. secure boot is enabled in uefi.. now in dual boot and thinking about rEFInd..
17:49 < superpou> i'm using the full install image, burned it on a dvd because i had trouble booting for a usb drive
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17:50 < sibiria> ok. shouldn't make any difference then. but if you're at wits' end you could try the install75.img on USB as well, just to see what's what
17:50 < sibiria> the .img is what goes onto USB, not the .iso
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17:51 < sonya> btw installer at some point is creatind device nodes.. untill that happened - no disks are visible, except rd , afair
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17:51 < sibiria> yeah you could try zone out of the installer and just MAKEDEV sd0 and wd0 to see what comes up
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17:51 < sonya> only disks are visible that are recognized by rd
17:51 < sibiria> sh /dev/MAKEDEV sd0
17:52 < sonya> yeah, sd1 or smth like
17:52 < sibiria> sd0, sd1, wd0, sd1, just in case the 0-ones haven't manifested
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17:53 < superpou> and run the installer after that?
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17:55 < sonya> superpou: yes, but i can't remember exact command to start it up, sorry
17:55 < sibiria> superpou: yesh, you just run "install" and it goes back
17:56 < sonya> oh
17:56 < sonya> sibiria: thanks!
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17:57 < superpou> it still says that avaible disks are none
17:59 < sonya> superpou: is it hdd or ssd one?
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17:59 < superpou> it's an ssd
18:00 < superpou> btw, i also tried plugging in an empty usb drive, but it still said none
18:00 < vortexx> it's probably a libreboot issue, there's been reports of problems with it and openbsd before
18:00 < vortexx> chohag amongst others had problems
18:01 < superpou> should i go ask in the libreboot irc then?
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18:05 < sonya> superpou: if "in an empty usb drive, but it still said none" then bios/libreboot has some quirks
18:05 < RobbieAB> superpou: What is the AHCI controller in the laptop?
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18:06 < superpou> hold on, let me check
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18:08 < RobbieAB> A quick google suggests it *should* work
18:08 < sonya> i have an old notebook 2000-era with bios capable to boot only usb zip-drives.. seems like smth similar here..
18:08 < superpou> i think that's just the one that is already in the intel chipset
18:09 < superpou> "Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family 6 port Mobile SATA AHCI Controller (rev 05)"
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18:13 < RobbieAB> Are you sure the disk is actually working? And are you sure it is a SATA disk? Looking the model up online suggests that model may have shipped with NVMe options as well.
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18:16 < superpou> the disk is working, i have ubuntu on it and it boots just fine
18:17 < RobbieAB> Oh. Are you sure the installer isn't seeing the disk? Is it perhaps seeing and ignoring the disk? (I've never done a dual boot before)
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18:18 < superpou> i'm not sure, how do i check?
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18:23 < RobbieAB> I'm guessing here... :D If you have a shell in the installer, sysctl hw.disknames should list all the disks (according to stack overflow and my test on my openbsd system)
18:24 < superpou> okay hold on
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18:26 < superpou> there is rd0
18:26 < superpou> oh no…
18:26 < superpou> is that raid?
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18:27 < avemestr> Heh: https://github.com/qbit/ohmyksh
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18:29 < RobbieAB> superpou: I think that's the installer ramdisk.
18:29 < superpou> ah ok
18:29 < apotheon> whew
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18:29 < superpou> well, there is nothing else
18:30 < RobbieAB> No idea then. Sorry.
18:31 < superpou> rip
18:31 < superpou> no openbsd for me then ig
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18:31 < RobbieAB> Put it in a VM on Ubuntu to learn?
18:31 < RobbieAB> It's how I did my first openbsd system.
18:32 < superpou> i can do that
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18:34 < VG9t> Hi, I'm new to openbsd. I'm trying to deploy a DNS server (coredns) as a non-root user (by default the service runs as root). Does OpenBSD provide a mechanism for giving users permissions to bind lower port numbers?
18:36 < pirateoverboard> Just sysupgrade to 7.5 and got: reorder_kernel: failed -- see /usr/share/relink/kernel/GENERIC/relink.log
18:36 < pirateoverboard> Log says failed to verify /bsd’s checksum and tells you how to re-enable KARL
18:36 < pirateoverboard> Anyone run into this?
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18:39 < GnarledHorn> `kdump -u malloc`; addr2line (1)... this stuff is so nice
18:41 < vortexx> VG9t: man rc.subr might be of help there, a user can't directly bind to ports below 1024 but daemons launched by root can and then drop privileges
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18:48 < VG9t> vortexx: that makes sense, thanks
18:49 < phy1729> You can have pf redirect packets though
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18:55 < vortexx> VG9t: btw coredns is a package in OpenBSD if you don't want to reinvent the wheel
18:56 < pirateoverboard> It seems when I sysupgrade the kernel switched from GENERIC.MP to GENERIC. Anyway to switch back to multiprocessor?
18:56 < VG9t> I installed the package I'm just used to not running things as root on linux
18:57 < vortexx> pirateoverboard: copy bsd.mp over bsd
18:57 < pirateoverboard> Thanks
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20:57 < circlesquared11>   hi, i just installed openbsd for the first time. everything is working (wifi, graphics) except my sound. i have no onboard sound on my motherboard, and i have a soundcard (asustek xonar).  Here is a pastebin of what i have tried and a dmesg: https://pastebin.com/s8fmrNQD
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21:00 < phy1729> https://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq4.html#SendDmesg has the email address. It's unlikely the devs who would be able to use the dmesg output would see it here.
21:01 < circlesquared11> im not trying to submit a bug, i am asking for help with my system
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21:04 < ssm_> circlesquared11: if something like this doesn't work in openbsd by default, it's most likely a bug ;), that being said, check if output is muted with sndioctl
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21:05 < circlesquared11> $ sndioctl
21:05 < circlesquared11> default: can't open control device
21:05 < circlesquared11>   - it should be noted the device works in freebsd, but it was a PIA because of the issue of no onboard sound wasnt considered
21:05 < ssm_> oh so no driver is even successfully loaded for your sound device
21:05 < circlesquared11> ah okay. yeah that explains it.
21:06 < circlesquared11> i guess it wont work since there is no driver?
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21:06 < ssm_> I mean, uaudio should work; it's weird you get 4 uaudios for 1 device though
21:07 < circlesquared11> i tried to follow the man page but the instructions dont work because it just says can't open control device when i try to follow it
21:07 < circlesquared11> yeah i really dont know what im doing in openbsd. i know linux okay though
21:07 < circlesquared11> i have no idea how to debug this if the man pages dont work
21:08 < circlesquared11> @ssm_ , i dont know how to do it "uaudio"
21:08 < ssm_> uaudio(4) is a driver for usb audio devices
21:08 < circlesquared11> i tried following the usb audio guide but i got stuck on the top because of the can't open control device issue
21:08 < ssm_> dmesg line tells you the kernel is using uaudio for that device, 5 times for some reason
21:09 < ssm_> do you have a non-usb audio device?
21:09 < ssm_> because the problem might be that your sndiod -f command is set to a device that doesn't exist
21:10 < circlesquared11> i dont know why it says "usb device" since it is a pci express card
21:11 < circlesquared11> i just have the pci express card :| 
21:11 < circlesquared11> how do i make sure sndiod -f is set to a device that exists.
21:11 < circlesquared11> thank you for helping
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21:12 < ssm_> you can test other /dev/audioctl* devices with mixerctl -f to see if they exist maybe
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21:12 < circlesquared11> ok
21:12 < ssm_> if not, the device might just not be supported, it is weird it's using uaudio
21:12 < circlesquared11> yeah i agree.
21:12 < ssm_> actually, can you send your full dmesg?
21:13 < ssm_> there are other audio drivers that your grep audio wouldn't have caught
21:13 < ssm_> like azalia(4)
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21:15 < circlesquared11> yeah , one sec
21:15 < circlesquared11> https://pastebin.com/3zj1nM31  thats the mixerctl output. i will send the dmesg
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21:18 < circlesquared11> here is the dmesg: https://pastebin.com/SDwVyuGR
21:18 < circlesquared11> @ssm_
21:20 < ssm_> `azalia0: no supported codecs` that may be part of the problem
21:21 < ssm_> just looks like unsupported hardware to me, unfortunately :(
21:21 < circlesquared11> ah okay.
21:21 < circlesquared11> is there a list of known supported sound cards so i can just get one on ebay.
21:21 < circlesquared11> i am sure it is somewhere. thank you for helping. @ssm_
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21:22 < ssm_> no problemo, also wait around for other replies; I'm just one hacker
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